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tak April 29th 07 04:11 AM

a real boat
 
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html



Chuck Gould April 29th 07 03:38 PM

a real boat
 
On Apr 28, 8:11?pm, "tak" wrote:
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html


There are villagers in Eastern Turkey who not only believe that the
story of Gilgamesh (or Noah) is literally true, they believe that what
remains of his boat is buried in mud along a river that runs nearby.
Aerial photography seems to confirm that there is something that
*could be* a large, double-ended boat.

One of the believers has constructed a site:

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/arkmodel.htm


Interesting factoid about "gopher" wood:

Translations of Genesis into English normally have Yaweh instructing
Moses to build his ark of "gopher wood". Unfortunately, there is no no
such thing as "gopher wood"........however, the symbols for the sounds
of G and K are very similar in the Hebrew alphabet and the word
"Kopher" means "protected", so Kopher wood wold be protected wood, and
could be any wood covered in pitch, tar, resin, etc.

I wonder if the guy who built the modern version of the ark is really
going to try to launch it? Looks to me like it has a ridiculously high
COG. Over she goes in the first decent blow. As it is, it reminds me
of those roadside attractions we used to see traveling around in the
50's and 60's. Big plywood sign in a farmer's field: "See Noah's Ark!
Only 75 miles ahead!" Then while everybody is eating snow cones and
marveling at the models of giraffes and elephants in the ark the
parking lot crew is wiring paper signs to the chromed rear
bumpers..... "Noah's Ark! See it Near Centerville!"



John H. April 29th 07 08:32 PM

a real boat
 
On 29 Apr 2007 07:38:36 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Apr 28, 8:11?pm, "tak" wrote:
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html


There are villagers in Eastern Turkey who not only believe that the
story of Gilgamesh (or Noah) is literally true, they believe that what
remains of his boat is buried in mud along a river that runs nearby.
Aerial photography seems to confirm that there is something that
*could be* a large, double-ended boat.

One of the believers has constructed a site:

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/arkmodel.htm


Interesting factoid about "gopher" wood:

Translations of Genesis into English normally have Yaweh instructing
Moses to build his ark of "gopher wood". Unfortunately, there is no no
such thing as "gopher wood"........however, the symbols for the sounds
of G and K are very similar in the Hebrew alphabet and the word
"Kopher" means "protected", so Kopher wood wold be protected wood, and
could be any wood covered in pitch, tar, resin, etc.

I wonder if the guy who built the modern version of the ark is really
going to try to launch it? Looks to me like it has a ridiculously high
COG. Over she goes in the first decent blow. As it is, it reminds me
of those roadside attractions we used to see traveling around in the
50's and 60's. Big plywood sign in a farmer's field: "See Noah's Ark!
Only 75 miles ahead!" Then while everybody is eating snow cones and
marveling at the models of giraffes and elephants in the ark the
parking lot crew is wiring paper signs to the chromed rear
bumpers..... "Noah's Ark! See it Near Centerville!"


Once you get two of every animal in the world into the hold, it probably
won't be top heavy, especially once the defecation begins accumulating.

Calif Bill April 29th 07 09:55 PM

a real boat
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 28, 8:11?pm, "tak" wrote:
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html


There are villagers in Eastern Turkey who not only believe that the
story of Gilgamesh (or Noah) is literally true, they believe that what
remains of his boat is buried in mud along a river that runs nearby.
Aerial photography seems to confirm that there is something that
*could be* a large, double-ended boat.

One of the believers has constructed a site:

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/arkmodel.htm


Interesting factoid about "gopher" wood:

Translations of Genesis into English normally have Yaweh instructing
Moses to build his ark of "gopher wood". Unfortunately, there is no no
such thing as "gopher wood"........however, the symbols for the sounds
of G and K are very similar in the Hebrew alphabet and the word
"Kopher" means "protected", so Kopher wood wold be protected wood, and
could be any wood covered in pitch, tar, resin, etc.

I wonder if the guy who built the modern version of the ark is really
going to try to launch it? Looks to me like it has a ridiculously high
COG. Over she goes in the first decent blow. As it is, it reminds me
of those roadside attractions we used to see traveling around in the
50's and 60's. Big plywood sign in a farmer's field: "See Noah's Ark!
Only 75 miles ahead!" Then while everybody is eating snow cones and
marveling at the models of giraffes and elephants in the ark the
parking lot crew is wiring paper signs to the chromed rear
bumpers..... "Noah's Ark! See it Near Centerville!"



The Dutch model is probably closer to the design. It would have been a
large retangular barge shape. There was no need for a double ended,
steerable design. It just needed to float. With a large load aboard.



Harry Krause April 29th 07 10:08 PM

a real boat
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 28, 8:11?pm, "tak" wrote:
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html

There are villagers in Eastern Turkey who not only believe that the
story of Gilgamesh (or Noah) is literally true, they believe that what
remains of his boat is buried in mud along a river that runs nearby.
Aerial photography seems to confirm that there is something that
*could be* a large, double-ended boat.

One of the believers has constructed a site:

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/arkmodel.htm


Interesting factoid about "gopher" wood:

Translations of Genesis into English normally have Yaweh instructing
Moses to build his ark of "gopher wood". Unfortunately, there is no no
such thing as "gopher wood"........however, the symbols for the sounds
of G and K are very similar in the Hebrew alphabet and the word
"Kopher" means "protected", so Kopher wood wold be protected wood, and
could be any wood covered in pitch, tar, resin, etc.

I wonder if the guy who built the modern version of the ark is really
going to try to launch it? Looks to me like it has a ridiculously high
COG. Over she goes in the first decent blow. As it is, it reminds me
of those roadside attractions we used to see traveling around in the
50's and 60's. Big plywood sign in a farmer's field: "See Noah's Ark!
Only 75 miles ahead!" Then while everybody is eating snow cones and
marveling at the models of giraffes and elephants in the ark the
parking lot crew is wiring paper signs to the chromed rear
bumpers..... "Noah's Ark! See it Near Centerville!"



The Dutch model is probably closer to the design. It would have been a
large retangular barge shape. There was no need for a double ended,
steerable design. It just needed to float. With a large load aboard.




You actually believe those biblical fairy tales? Figures.

Calif Bill April 30th 07 12:30 AM

a real boat
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 28, 8:11?pm, "tak" wrote:
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html
There are villagers in Eastern Turkey who not only believe that the
story of Gilgamesh (or Noah) is literally true, they believe that what
remains of his boat is buried in mud along a river that runs nearby.
Aerial photography seems to confirm that there is something that
*could be* a large, double-ended boat.

One of the believers has constructed a site:

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/arkmodel.htm


Interesting factoid about "gopher" wood:

Translations of Genesis into English normally have Yaweh instructing
Moses to build his ark of "gopher wood". Unfortunately, there is no no
such thing as "gopher wood"........however, the symbols for the sounds
of G and K are very similar in the Hebrew alphabet and the word
"Kopher" means "protected", so Kopher wood wold be protected wood, and
could be any wood covered in pitch, tar, resin, etc.

I wonder if the guy who built the modern version of the ark is really
going to try to launch it? Looks to me like it has a ridiculously high
COG. Over she goes in the first decent blow. As it is, it reminds me
of those roadside attractions we used to see traveling around in the
50's and 60's. Big plywood sign in a farmer's field: "See Noah's Ark!
Only 75 miles ahead!" Then while everybody is eating snow cones and
marveling at the models of giraffes and elephants in the ark the
parking lot crew is wiring paper signs to the chromed rear
bumpers..... "Noah's Ark! See it Near Centerville!"



The Dutch model is probably closer to the design. It would have been a
large retangular barge shape. There was no need for a double ended,
steerable design. It just needed to float. With a large load aboard.



You actually believe those biblical fairy tales? Figures.


Believe it or not, the boat design would have been barge like. As to world
floods, yes there have been. At least once, Indian legends in South
America talk of a great flood. If you look at the coal seams in Kentucky,
Appalachia they are all at about the same elevation and there had to be huge
amounts of lumber piled up to make the size seams they find. Think of a
tidal wave washing over the earth. Maybe Noah saw the big asteroid coming
to clean up the earth?



Harry Krause April 30th 07 01:07 AM

a real boat
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 28, 8:11?pm, "tak" wrote:
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html
There are villagers in Eastern Turkey who not only believe that the
story of Gilgamesh (or Noah) is literally true, they believe that what
remains of his boat is buried in mud along a river that runs nearby.
Aerial photography seems to confirm that there is something that
*could be* a large, double-ended boat.

One of the believers has constructed a site:

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/arkmodel.htm


Interesting factoid about "gopher" wood:

Translations of Genesis into English normally have Yaweh instructing
Moses to build his ark of "gopher wood". Unfortunately, there is no no
such thing as "gopher wood"........however, the symbols for the sounds
of G and K are very similar in the Hebrew alphabet and the word
"Kopher" means "protected", so Kopher wood wold be protected wood, and
could be any wood covered in pitch, tar, resin, etc.

I wonder if the guy who built the modern version of the ark is really
going to try to launch it? Looks to me like it has a ridiculously high
COG. Over she goes in the first decent blow. As it is, it reminds me
of those roadside attractions we used to see traveling around in the
50's and 60's. Big plywood sign in a farmer's field: "See Noah's Ark!
Only 75 miles ahead!" Then while everybody is eating snow cones and
marveling at the models of giraffes and elephants in the ark the
parking lot crew is wiring paper signs to the chromed rear
bumpers..... "Noah's Ark! See it Near Centerville!"


The Dutch model is probably closer to the design. It would have been a
large retangular barge shape. There was no need for a double ended,
steerable design. It just needed to float. With a large load aboard.


You actually believe those biblical fairy tales? Figures.


Believe it or not, the boat design would have been barge like. As to world
floods, yes there have been. At least once, Indian legends in South
America talk of a great flood. If you look at the coal seams in Kentucky,
Appalachia they are all at about the same elevation and there had to be huge
amounts of lumber piled up to make the size seams they find. Think of a
tidal wave washing over the earth. Maybe Noah saw the big asteroid coming
to clean up the earth?



D'oh. I wasn't questioning whether there was a flood. I was asking
whether you believed biblical fairy tales.

Calif Bill April 30th 07 01:39 AM

a real boat
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 28, 8:11?pm, "tak" wrote:
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html
There are villagers in Eastern Turkey who not only believe that the
story of Gilgamesh (or Noah) is literally true, they believe that what
remains of his boat is buried in mud along a river that runs nearby.
Aerial photography seems to confirm that there is something that
*could be* a large, double-ended boat.

One of the believers has constructed a site:

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/arkmodel.htm


Interesting factoid about "gopher" wood:

Translations of Genesis into English normally have Yaweh instructing
Moses to build his ark of "gopher wood". Unfortunately, there is no no
such thing as "gopher wood"........however, the symbols for the sounds
of G and K are very similar in the Hebrew alphabet and the word
"Kopher" means "protected", so Kopher wood wold be protected wood, and
could be any wood covered in pitch, tar, resin, etc.

I wonder if the guy who built the modern version of the ark is really
going to try to launch it? Looks to me like it has a ridiculously high
COG. Over she goes in the first decent blow. As it is, it reminds me
of those roadside attractions we used to see traveling around in the
50's and 60's. Big plywood sign in a farmer's field: "See Noah's Ark!
Only 75 miles ahead!" Then while everybody is eating snow cones and
marveling at the models of giraffes and elephants in the ark the
parking lot crew is wiring paper signs to the chromed rear
bumpers..... "Noah's Ark! See it Near Centerville!"


The Dutch model is probably closer to the design. It would have been a
large retangular barge shape. There was no need for a double ended,
steerable design. It just needed to float. With a large load aboard.

You actually believe those biblical fairy tales? Figures.


Believe it or not, the boat design would have been barge like. As to
world floods, yes there have been. At least once, Indian legends in
South America talk of a great flood. If you look at the coal seams in
Kentucky, Appalachia they are all at about the same elevation and there
had to be huge amounts of lumber piled up to make the size seams they
find. Think of a tidal wave washing over the earth. Maybe Noah saw the
big asteroid coming to clean up the earth?


D'oh. I wasn't questioning whether there was a flood. I was asking whether
you believed biblical fairy tales.


All the tales have some basis in fact. Even Merlin the Sorcerer.



John H. April 30th 07 02:15 AM

a real boat
 
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 20:07:43 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 28, 8:11?pm, "tak" wrote:
From another NG, for long cruises and rainy weather?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe....ap/index.html
There are villagers in Eastern Turkey who not only believe that the
story of Gilgamesh (or Noah) is literally true, they believe that what
remains of his boat is buried in mud along a river that runs nearby.
Aerial photography seems to confirm that there is something that
*could be* a large, double-ended boat.

One of the believers has constructed a site:

http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/arkmodel.htm


Interesting factoid about "gopher" wood:

Translations of Genesis into English normally have Yaweh instructing
Moses to build his ark of "gopher wood". Unfortunately, there is no no
such thing as "gopher wood"........however, the symbols for the sounds
of G and K are very similar in the Hebrew alphabet and the word
"Kopher" means "protected", so Kopher wood wold be protected wood, and
could be any wood covered in pitch, tar, resin, etc.

I wonder if the guy who built the modern version of the ark is really
going to try to launch it? Looks to me like it has a ridiculously high
COG. Over she goes in the first decent blow. As it is, it reminds me
of those roadside attractions we used to see traveling around in the
50's and 60's. Big plywood sign in a farmer's field: "See Noah's Ark!
Only 75 miles ahead!" Then while everybody is eating snow cones and
marveling at the models of giraffes and elephants in the ark the
parking lot crew is wiring paper signs to the chromed rear
bumpers..... "Noah's Ark! See it Near Centerville!"


The Dutch model is probably closer to the design. It would have been a
large retangular barge shape. There was no need for a double ended,
steerable design. It just needed to float. With a large load aboard.

You actually believe those biblical fairy tales? Figures.


Believe it or not, the boat design would have been barge like. As to world
floods, yes there have been. At least once, Indian legends in South
America talk of a great flood. If you look at the coal seams in Kentucky,
Appalachia they are all at about the same elevation and there had to be huge
amounts of lumber piled up to make the size seams they find. Think of a
tidal wave washing over the earth. Maybe Noah saw the big asteroid coming
to clean up the earth?



D'oh. I wasn't questioning whether there was a flood. I was asking
whether you believed biblical fairy tales.


Wow, Harry! Getting a political ****flinging going isn't working, so now
you're going to work on religion?

You're the man, Harry. What a neat guy!

thunder April 30th 07 04:14 AM

a real boat
 
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:30:21 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:


Believe it or not, the boat design would have been barge like. As to
world floods, yes there have been. At least once, Indian legends in
South America talk of a great flood. If you look at the coal seams in
Kentucky, Appalachia they are all at about the same elevation and there
had to be huge amounts of lumber piled up to make the size seams they
find. Think of a tidal wave washing over the earth. Maybe Noah saw the
big asteroid coming to clean up the earth?


As you probably know, much of N. America was once an inland sea/swamp,
resulting in those coal deposits.

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~rcb7/nam.html

There has been some speculation that the Black Sea deluge theory was the
cause of Noah's flood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory





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