On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich. And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

On Apr 26, 3:14 pm, John H. wrote:
On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich. And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Perhaps, but then again, as the old saying goes, "there is no such
thing as the mafia". Many times however these cops don't necessarily
think that their actions are "bad". I also have relatives who are
cops, and I would not want to cross em'. With respect for your sincere
debate, I will leave this one alone for now.

"John H." wrote in message
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On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing trial
this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three times the
legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he was ****
faced, but it was not related to the accident.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:45:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?


Regardless, he made an appropriate comment.


Why do you think it was appropriate?

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing
trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three
times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he
was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just said
about them. ;-)

JimH wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.
Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?
Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.
Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops. That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you make
them out to be.
To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an empty
highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers do this
constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops crawling
out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They don't call a
taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department is standing
trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a .24, three
times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV news: Yes, he
was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just said
about them. ;-)




I won't argue against the premise that most cops are honest, but I also
won't argue that one should rely on the police to provide much help when
you really need it, and I don't mean any sort of "traffic direction."

In most cases, police response time is an abomination, no matter where
you live. If you hear a burglar outside your house and you call 911, by
the time the cops show up the bad guy has left with your silverware.

I'm commenting on the police as an institution here, not on individual
cops.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:23:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:45:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
news On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:14:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for
the
law.

Cram it up your ass Doug.

Sideways.

Your son's a LEO, right?


Regardless, he made an appropriate comment.


Why do you think it was appropriate?


Because there was no reason to think otherwise!

In other words, you're either drunk again, or your lithium has worn off.

"JimH" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On 26 Apr 2007 08:21:45 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 26, 7:52 am, John H. wrote:
On 25 Apr 2007 18:39:24 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 24, 6:28 pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:24 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Or..... They thought they had all the enforcement (shakedown)
officials covered. You just don't get it, as much money is made by
the
so called good guys in the drug business, as the bad guys.

Well, apparently not all the enforcement folks are bad guys, right?

Right. Not all are all bad, in fact, probably very few, but in so many
police departments, the bad ones seem to rule. If you have a situation
where there are one or two out of a dozen or so that are bad, and the
rest are either afraid to expose them, or turn away due to the blue
shield of silence, you got a dirty dozen. I have seen otherwise good
cops go along with bad ones on too many occasions out of fear for
their jobs, or their own personal safety. Eventually, the good ones
just seem to go along. Where I grew up, the local police ran and
protected the drug business, everyone knew it, you just kept quiet and
stayed out or their way.

Strange. I've got two brothers who are retired cops. Neither are rich.
And,
neither have discussed the rule of police departments by bad cops.
That's
not to say they don't exist, but they may not be as prevalent as you
make
them out to be.

To varying degrees, many of them really are thugs with no respect for the
law.

Example: My ex got a ticket from a NY state trooper at 6:30 AM on an
empty highway, for not signalling when she changed lanes. I see troopers
do this constantly.

Example: In a club where my band plays often, I see off duty cops
crawling out the door at closing time, three sheets to the wind. They
don't call a taxi. They drive home. A cop from the sheriff's department
is standing trial this week for killing a motorcyclist. The cop blew a
.24, three times the legal limit in NY. His defense, according to TV
news: Yes, he was **** faced, but it was not related to the accident.


*Some* are indeed nothing more than bad guys carrying a badge. *Most*,
however, are good guys putting their lives on the line each and every day
for us.

Next time you desperately need a police officer remember what you just
said about them. ;-)


Never forget that you are an idiot. The existence of bad cops does not mean
bad ones don't exist. If you dispute this simple fact, explain why.