Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

Interesting item regarding a suspected relationship between cell
phones and a current crisis with honeybees. Makes you wonder whether
GPS signals will be coming under scrutiny as well.......


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Cell phones wiping out bee populations: Will your mobile be the next
SUV?
Posted Apr 16th 2007 8:01PM by Sarah Gilbert
Filed under: Newspapers, Rants and raves, Economic data

It was only a few weeks ago that I started reading about the plight of
commercial bees in Oregon, where I live, and other nearby agricultural
states: some mysterious force was causing what's called "Colony
Collapse Disorder" for untold (but, by all guesses, large) numbers of
bees used for pollinating crops up and down the Pacific Coast. One
beekeeper said that the vast majority of his colonies had just
disappeared -- the bees would leave, and never return to the hive,
presumably dying from hunger. Despite the seeming widespread nature of
the problem, agricultural authorities wouldn't confirm its severity,
and no one had solid numbers.

Until now, a variety of unrelated and unsatisfactory theories had been
surfaced, though none even seemed half-right. Global warming. A bad
batch of the high-fructose corn syrup typically used to feed
commercial bees. Genetically modified crops. Pesticides. Mites. In the
past few days I've seen several bees around my home, buzzing in and
then fizzling out, dying slow, awful deaths on the sidewalk or
windowsill. My stomach began to sink. Bees are vital to the health of
so many of the world's plants. What could be done?

Now a report from Britain, where bee losses are still denied by
agricultural authorities, although beekeepers are raising the alarm
(U.S. beekeepers claim 60% of West Coast populations and 70% of East
Coast bees have vanished): cell phone signals are disrupting bees'
natural navigation systems. While alarmist, it makes sense; when cell
phones are on, they're constantly crying for attention, pinging
whatever tower is nearby every few minutes so that the home tower can
keep track of the signal and send in whatever calls or messages come
its way. Think of all the millions of pings that bounce back and forth
across agricultural areas every week.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and never worried about fears that cell
phones cause brain cancer and cell death (although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true). But after reading these reports my first
urge is to turn off all the cell phones in the family and only use
them for emergencies. If this is true, cell phones could become the
SUV of 2008; a public display of a human putting its own comfort above
the needs of the environment at large. And I'm sticking to land-based
stocks for now!


***********************************

The world is changing in some pretty strange ways.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

Interesting article, right up until I read, "(although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true)." Another alarmist with absolutely no
scientific evidence to back his statements. Anecdotal evidence at best (if
even that). I ate a bagle this morning and got into a car accident this
afternoon. Therefore, eating bagles must cause car accidents.

Phooey.

--Mike

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Interesting item regarding a suspected relationship between cell
phones and a current crisis with honeybees. Makes you wonder whether
GPS signals will be coming under scrutiny as well.......


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Cell phones wiping out bee populations: Will your mobile be the next
SUV?
Posted Apr 16th 2007 8:01PM by Sarah Gilbert
Filed under: Newspapers, Rants and raves, Economic data

It was only a few weeks ago that I started reading about the plight of
commercial bees in Oregon, where I live, and other nearby agricultural
states: some mysterious force was causing what's called "Colony
Collapse Disorder" for untold (but, by all guesses, large) numbers of
bees used for pollinating crops up and down the Pacific Coast. One
beekeeper said that the vast majority of his colonies had just
disappeared -- the bees would leave, and never return to the hive,
presumably dying from hunger. Despite the seeming widespread nature of
the problem, agricultural authorities wouldn't confirm its severity,
and no one had solid numbers.

Until now, a variety of unrelated and unsatisfactory theories had been
surfaced, though none even seemed half-right. Global warming. A bad
batch of the high-fructose corn syrup typically used to feed
commercial bees. Genetically modified crops. Pesticides. Mites. In the
past few days I've seen several bees around my home, buzzing in and
then fizzling out, dying slow, awful deaths on the sidewalk or
windowsill. My stomach began to sink. Bees are vital to the health of
so many of the world's plants. What could be done?

Now a report from Britain, where bee losses are still denied by
agricultural authorities, although beekeepers are raising the alarm
(U.S. beekeepers claim 60% of West Coast populations and 70% of East
Coast bees have vanished): cell phone signals are disrupting bees'
natural navigation systems. While alarmist, it makes sense; when cell
phones are on, they're constantly crying for attention, pinging
whatever tower is nearby every few minutes so that the home tower can
keep track of the signal and send in whatever calls or messages come
its way. Think of all the millions of pings that bounce back and forth
across agricultural areas every week.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and never worried about fears that cell
phones cause brain cancer and cell death (although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true). But after reading these reports my first
urge is to turn off all the cell phones in the family and only use
them for emergencies. If this is true, cell phones could become the
SUV of 2008; a public display of a human putting its own comfort above
the needs of the environment at large. And I'm sticking to land-based
stocks for now!


***********************************

The world is changing in some pretty strange ways.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:33:55 GMT, "Mike" wrote:

Interesting article, right up until I read, "(although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true)." Another alarmist with absolutely no
scientific evidence to back his statements. Anecdotal evidence at best (if
even that). I ate a bagle this morning and got into a car accident this
afternoon. Therefore, eating bagles must cause car accidents.

Phooey.

--Mike


That's far fetched. But, it's probably true that your bagel caused some
farting which *definitely* contributed to global warming.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

On Apr 16, 10:33?pm, "Mike" wrote:
Interesting article, right up until I read, "(although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true)." Another alarmist with absolutely no
scientific evidence to back his statements. Anecdotal evidence at best (if
even that). I ate a bagle this morning and got into a car accident this
afternoon. Therefore, eating bagles must cause car accidents.

Phooey.

--Mike

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

ups.com...



Interesting item regarding a suspected relationship between cell
phones and a current crisis with honeybees. Makes you wonder whether
GPS signals will be coming under scrutiny as well.......

*************************

Cell phones wiping out bee populations: Will your mobile be the next
SUV?
Posted Apr 16th 2007 8:01PM by Sarah Gilbert
Filed under: Newspapers, Rants and raves, Economic data

It was only a few weeks ago that I started reading about the plight of
commercial bees in Oregon, where I live, and other nearby agricultural
states: some mysterious force was causing what's called "Colony
Collapse Disorder" for untold (but, by all guesses, large) numbers of
bees used for pollinating crops up and down the Pacific Coast. One
beekeeper said that the vast majority of his colonies had just
disappeared -- the bees would leave, and never return to the hive,
presumably dying from hunger. Despite the seeming widespread nature of
the problem, agricultural authorities wouldn't confirm its severity,
and no one had solid numbers.

Until now, a variety of unrelated and unsatisfactory theories had been
surfaced, though none even seemed half-right. Global warming. A bad
batch of the high-fructose corn syrup typically used to feed
commercial bees. Genetically modified crops. Pesticides. Mites. In the
past few days I've seen several bees around my home, buzzing in and
then fizzling out, dying slow, awful deaths on the sidewalk or
windowsill. My stomach began to sink. Bees are vital to the health of
so many of the world's plants. What could be done?

Now a report from Britain, where bee losses are still denied by
agricultural authorities, although beekeepers are raising the alarm
(U.S. beekeepers claim 60% of West Coast populations and 70% of East
Coast bees have vanished): cell phone signals are disrupting bees'
natural navigation systems. While alarmist, it makes sense; when cell
phones are on, they're constantly crying for attention, pinging
whatever tower is nearby every few minutes so that the home tower can
keep track of the signal and send in whatever calls or messages come
its way. Think of all the millions of pings that bounce back and forth
across agricultural areas every week.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and never worried about fears that cell
phones cause brain cancer and cell death (although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true). But after reading these reports my first
urge is to turn off all the cell phones in the family and only use
them for emergencies. If this is true, cell phones could become the
SUV of 2008; a public display of a human putting its own comfort above
the needs of the environment at large. And I'm sticking to land-based
stocks for now!

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The difficulty could be, as we have seen repeatedly in any of these
"environmental" issues, that if enough people buy into the explanation
that cell phone signals are disrupting the bee-nav system there will
be a public clamor to "do something" about it. Then again there's
always the risk that if we wait until there is not the tiniest shred
of doubt regarding the phenomenon it might be too late to save the
bees.

Somebody should conduct some controlled experiments to determine
whether the allegations are true. If they are, it could have an effect
on agricultural yield in any country industrialized enough to have a
lot of cell phones.

Bees haven't had any problem with the steady signals of radio and TV
transmission bands, but maybe the two-way and sporadic transmissions
of probably 100 million cell phones is a different experience.

In any event, this opens up a whole new field of "signal" pollution;
with items like VHF radio and GPS possibly coming under the microscope
if thiscause gets any traction.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
Interesting item regarding a suspected relationship between cell
phones and a current crisis with honeybees. Makes you wonder whether
GPS signals will be coming under scrutiny as well.......


*************************

Cell phones wiping out bee populations: Will your mobile be the next
SUV?
Posted Apr 16th 2007 8:01PM by Sarah Gilbert
Filed under: Newspapers, Rants and raves, Economic data

It was only a few weeks ago that I started reading about the plight of
commercial bees in Oregon, where I live, and other nearby agricultural
states: some mysterious force was causing what's called "Colony
Collapse Disorder" for untold (but, by all guesses, large) numbers of
bees used for pollinating crops up and down the Pacific Coast. One
beekeeper said that the vast majority of his colonies had just
disappeared -- the bees would leave, and never return to the hive,
presumably dying from hunger. Despite the seeming widespread nature of
the problem, agricultural authorities wouldn't confirm its severity,
and no one had solid numbers.

Until now, a variety of unrelated and unsatisfactory theories had been
surfaced, though none even seemed half-right. Global warming. A bad
batch of the high-fructose corn syrup typically used to feed
commercial bees. Genetically modified crops. Pesticides. Mites. In the
past few days I've seen several bees around my home, buzzing in and
then fizzling out, dying slow, awful deaths on the sidewalk or
windowsill. My stomach began to sink. Bees are vital to the health of
so many of the world's plants. What could be done?

Now a report from Britain, where bee losses are still denied by
agricultural authorities, although beekeepers are raising the alarm
(U.S. beekeepers claim 60% of West Coast populations and 70% of East
Coast bees have vanished): cell phone signals are disrupting bees'
natural navigation systems. While alarmist, it makes sense; when cell
phones are on, they're constantly crying for attention, pinging
whatever tower is nearby every few minutes so that the home tower can
keep track of the signal and send in whatever calls or messages come
its way. Think of all the millions of pings that bounce back and forth
across agricultural areas every week.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and never worried about fears that cell
phones cause brain cancer and cell death (although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true). But after reading these reports my first
urge is to turn off all the cell phones in the family and only use
them for emergencies. If this is true, cell phones could become the
SUV of 2008; a public display of a human putting its own comfort above
the needs of the environment at large. And I'm sticking to land-based
stocks for now!


***********************************

The world is changing in some pretty strange ways.


Are you serious? Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only - much
like an FM radio. On or off the signals are still there.

Dan

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

On Apr 17, 4:30�pm, Dan wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Interesting item regarding a suspected relationship between cell
phones and a current crisis with honeybees. Makes you wonder whether
GPS signals will be coming under scrutiny as well.......

*************************

Cell phones wiping out bee populations: Will your mobile be the next
SUV?
Posted Apr 16th 2007 8:01PM by Sarah Gilbert
Filed under: Newspapers, Rants and raves, Economic data

It was only a few weeks ago that I started reading about the plight of
commercial bees in Oregon, where I live, and other nearby agricultural
states: some mysterious force was causing what's called "Colony
Collapse Disorder" for untold (but, by all guesses, large) numbers of
bees used for pollinating crops up and down the Pacific Coast. One
beekeeper said that the vast majority of his colonies had just
disappeared -- the bees would leave, and never return to the hive,
presumably dying from hunger. Despite the seeming widespread nature of
the problem, agricultural authorities wouldn't confirm its severity,
and no one had solid numbers.

Until now, a variety of unrelated and unsatisfactory theories had been
surfaced, though none even seemed half-right. Global warming. A bad
batch of the high-fructose corn syrup typically used to feed
commercial bees. Genetically modified crops. Pesticides. Mites. In the
past few days I've seen several bees around my home, buzzing in and
then fizzling out, dying slow, awful deaths on the sidewalk or
windowsill. My stomach began to sink. Bees are vital to the health of
so many of the world's plants. What could be done?

Now a report from Britain, where bee losses are still denied by
agricultural authorities, although beekeepers are raising the alarm
(U.S. beekeepers claim 60% of West Coast populations and 70% of East
Coast bees have vanished): cell phone signals are disrupting bees'
natural navigation systems. While alarmist, it makes sense; when cell
phones are on, they're constantly crying for attention, pinging
whatever tower is nearby every few minutes so that the home tower can
keep track of the signal and send in whatever calls or messages come
its way. Think of all the millions of pings that bounce back and forth
across agricultural areas every week.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and never worried about fears that cell
phones cause brain cancer and cell death (although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true). But after reading these reports my first
urge is to turn off all the cell phones in the family and only use
them for emergencies. If this is true, cell phones could become the
SUV of 2008; a public display of a human putting its own comfort above
the needs of the environment at large. And I'm sticking to land-based
stocks for now!

***********************************

The world is changing in some pretty strange ways.

Are you serious? *Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only - much
like an FM radio. *On or off the signals are still there.

Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What may not be known is whether it's the intermittency of cell phone
signals or the frequency range. Just like GPS, there is a nonstop
broadcast of cell phone signals to somebody, Heck, most any home with
a teenager can probably attest to that. :-)

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 17, 4:30?pm, Dan wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Interesting item regarding a suspected relationship between cell
phones and a current crisis with honeybees. Makes you wonder whether
GPS signals will be coming under scrutiny as well.......

*************************

Cell phones wiping out bee populations: Will your mobile be the next
SUV?
Posted Apr 16th 2007 8:01PM by Sarah Gilbert
Filed under: Newspapers, Rants and raves, Economic data

It was only a few weeks ago that I started reading about the plight of
commercial bees in Oregon, where I live, and other nearby agricultural
states: some mysterious force was causing what's called "Colony
Collapse Disorder" for untold (but, by all guesses, large) numbers of
bees used for pollinating crops up and down the Pacific Coast. One
beekeeper said that the vast majority of his colonies had just
disappeared -- the bees would leave, and never return to the hive,
presumably dying from hunger. Despite the seeming widespread nature of
the problem, agricultural authorities wouldn't confirm its severity,
and no one had solid numbers.

Until now, a variety of unrelated and unsatisfactory theories had been
surfaced, though none even seemed half-right. Global warming. A bad
batch of the high-fructose corn syrup typically used to feed
commercial bees. Genetically modified crops. Pesticides. Mites. In the
past few days I've seen several bees around my home, buzzing in and
then fizzling out, dying slow, awful deaths on the sidewalk or
windowsill. My stomach began to sink. Bees are vital to the health of
so many of the world's plants. What could be done?

Now a report from Britain, where bee losses are still denied by
agricultural authorities, although beekeepers are raising the alarm
(U.S. beekeepers claim 60% of West Coast populations and 70% of East
Coast bees have vanished): cell phone signals are disrupting bees'
natural navigation systems. While alarmist, it makes sense; when cell
phones are on, they're constantly crying for attention, pinging
whatever tower is nearby every few minutes so that the home tower can
keep track of the signal and send in whatever calls or messages come
its way. Think of all the millions of pings that bounce back and forth
across agricultural areas every week.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and never worried about fears that cell
phones cause brain cancer and cell death (although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true). But after reading these reports my first
urge is to turn off all the cell phones in the family and only use
them for emergencies. If this is true, cell phones could become the
SUV of 2008; a public display of a human putting its own comfort above
the needs of the environment at large. And I'm sticking to land-based
stocks for now!

***********************************

The world is changing in some pretty strange ways.

Are you serious? Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only - much
like an FM radio. On or off the signals are still there.

Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What may not be known is whether it's the intermittency of cell phone
signals or the frequency range. Just like GPS, there is a nonstop
broadcast of cell phone signals to somebody, Heck, most any home with
a teenager can probably attest to that. :-)

===================================

This is hillarious! Pass the popcorn.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

Dan wrote:
Are you serious? Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only - much
like an FM radio. On or off the signals are still there.

Isn't there a correlation between when GPS went into operation and when
the bees started to decline? Hasn't it been within the last 30 years for
both? Cause and effect.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

On Apr 17, 5:18�pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Apr 17, 4:30?pm, Dan wrote:





Chuck Gould wrote:
Interesting item regarding a suspected relationship between cell
phones and a current crisis with honeybees. Makes you wonder whether
GPS signals will be coming under scrutiny as well.......

*************************

Cell phones wiping out bee populations: Will your mobile be the next
SUV?
Posted Apr 16th 2007 8:01PM by Sarah Gilbert
Filed under: Newspapers, Rants and raves, Economic data

It was only a few weeks ago that I started reading about the plight of
commercial bees in Oregon, where I live, and other nearby agricultural
states: some mysterious force was causing what's called "Colony
Collapse Disorder" for untold (but, by all guesses, large) numbers of
bees used for pollinating crops up and down the Pacific Coast. One
beekeeper said that the vast majority of his colonies had just
disappeared -- the bees would leave, and never return to the hive,
presumably dying from hunger. Despite the seeming widespread nature of
the problem, agricultural authorities wouldn't confirm its severity,
and no one had solid numbers.

Until now, a variety of unrelated and unsatisfactory theories had been
surfaced, though none even seemed half-right. Global warming. A bad
batch of the high-fructose corn syrup typically used to feed
commercial bees. Genetically modified crops. Pesticides. Mites. In the
past few days I've seen several bees around my home, buzzing in and
then fizzling out, dying slow, awful deaths on the sidewalk or
windowsill. My stomach began to sink. Bees are vital to the health of
so many of the world's plants. What could be done?

Now a report from Britain, where bee losses are still denied by
agricultural authorities, although beekeepers are raising the alarm
(U.S. beekeepers claim 60% of West Coast populations and 70% of East
Coast bees have vanished): cell phone signals are disrupting bees'
natural navigation systems. While alarmist, it makes sense; when cell
phones are on, they're constantly crying for attention, pinging
whatever tower is nearby every few minutes so that the home tower can
keep track of the signal and send in whatever calls or messages come
its way. Think of all the millions of pings that bounce back and forth
across agricultural areas every week.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and never worried about fears that cell
phones cause brain cancer and cell death (although the reports seem to
indicate this could be true). But after reading these reports my first
urge is to turn off all the cell phones in the family and only use
them for emergencies. If this is true, cell phones could become the
SUV of 2008; a public display of a human putting its own comfort above
the needs of the environment at large. And I'm sticking to land-based
stocks for now!

***********************************

The world is changing in some pretty strange ways.

Are you serious? Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only - much
like an FM radio. On or off the signals are still there.

Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What may not be known is whether it's the intermittency of cell phone
signals or the frequency range. Just like GPS, there is a nonstop
broadcast of cell phone signals to somebody, Heck, most any home with
a teenager can probably attest to that. :-)

===================================

This is hillarious! *Pass the popcorn.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"This is hillarious!" has to rank right up there with "Your an idiot."

Thanks for another classic contribution, JimH. You may not always be
the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but you contend very nicely for
the smartest ass. Really ****es you off to see anything boating
related interrupting discussions about hot water tanks and lawnmowers,
doesn't it?

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

On Apr 17, 5:23�pm, BAR wrote:
Dan wrote:
Are you serious? *Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only - much
like an FM radio. *On or off the signals are still there.

Isn't there a correlation between when GPS went into operation and when
the bees started to decline? Hasn't it been within the last 30 years for
both? Cause and effect.


If observations that something is interferring with the bees' ability
to navigate back and forth from the hive are correct, and if the
problem is indeed getting worse as alleged, then it could well be that
some technology that was introduced about the time the problem began
and has been increasing at about the same rate the bee populations
have been decreasing *could* (maybe!) be associated.

A lot of ifs and maybes at this point, but it ought to be easy enough
to run a controlled experiment to see if the insects are confused by
any sort of electronic transmissions.