Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
In any event, this opens up a whole new field of "signal" pollution;
with items like VHF radio and GPS possibly coming under the microscope
if thiscause gets any traction.

GPS receivers don't transmit. The signals coming from the
satellites are probably on the order of picowatts (10^-12).

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

I'm not a conspiracy theorist...

Any time someone has to add that, well, they're a nutjob.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:14:54 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
.. .

"JimH" wrote in message
...


Snipped

Wow! Messages saying nothing, and messages correcting those.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technology blamed?
 

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:34:49 -0400, "Bill Kearney"
wkearney-99@hot-mail-com wrote:

I'm not a conspiracy theorist...

Any time someone has to add that, well, they're a nutjob.

Why is global warming not the cause of this pending crisis also?

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:23?pm, BAR wrote:
Dan wrote:
Are you serious? ?Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only -
much
like an FM radio. ?On or off the signals are still there.
Isn't there a correlation between when GPS went into operation and when
the bees started to decline? Hasn't it been within the last 30 years for
both? Cause and effect.
If observations that something is interferring with the bees' ability
to navigate back and forth from the hive are correct, and if the
problem is indeed getting worse as alleged, then it could well be that
some technology that was introduced about the time the problem began
and has been increasing at about the same rate the bee populations
have been decreasing *could* (maybe!) be associated.

A lot of ifs and maybes at this point, but it ought to be easy enough
to run a controlled experiment to see if the insects are confused by
any sort of electronic transmissions.
I could buy into this theory in a New York minute. It's pretty much
proven that transmitted radio signals can screw up birds (think AF
PAVE/PAWS OTHR on the Cape) and there were all the problems the Navy
had with powerful sonar signals messing up blue whales and dolphins.

It would make sense that really high frequency signals could mess up
insects.

I'd like to see some hard experimentation though.

Maybe Autism is up in bees because of all the chemicals in the environment.
And they can not function.

Could also be that they are on strike for higher honey wages.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

Mike wrote:
Hasn't it been within the last 30 years for
both? Cause and effect.

Or anecdotal. There needs to be some science behind it for any validity.

I thought the science was settled for this and that a vast majority of
scientists agree therefore it is not up for debate, we need to propose a
radio frequency trading program.

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:49:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:23?pm, BAR wrote:
Dan wrote:
Are you serious? ?Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only -
much
like an FM radio. ?On or off the signals are still there.
Isn't there a correlation between when GPS went into operation and when
the bees started to decline? Hasn't it been within the last 30 years for
both? Cause and effect.
If observations that something is interferring with the bees' ability
to navigate back and forth from the hive are correct, and if the
problem is indeed getting worse as alleged, then it could well be that
some technology that was introduced about the time the problem began
and has been increasing at about the same rate the bee populations
have been decreasing *could* (maybe!) be associated.

A lot of ifs and maybes at this point, but it ought to be easy enough
to run a controlled experiment to see if the insects are confused by
any sort of electronic transmissions.
I could buy into this theory in a New York minute. It's pretty much
proven that transmitted radio signals can screw up birds (think AF
PAVE/PAWS OTHR on the Cape) and there were all the problems the Navy
had with powerful sonar signals messing up blue whales and dolphins.

It would make sense that really high frequency signals could mess up
insects.

I'd like to see some hard experimentation though.
Maybe Autism is up in bees because of all the chemicals in the environment.
And they can not function.
Could also be that they are on strike for higher honey wages.

Whatever the cause, I know who Harry would blame.

It has to be big honey!

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

BAR wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:49:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing"
wrote in message ...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:23?pm, BAR wrote:
Dan wrote:
Are you serious? ?Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive
only - much
like an FM radio. ?On or off the signals are still there.
Isn't there a correlation between when GPS went into operation
and when
the bees started to decline? Hasn't it been within the last 30
years for
both? Cause and effect.
If observations that something is interferring with the bees' ability
to navigate back and forth from the hive are correct, and if the
problem is indeed getting worse as alleged, then it could well be
that
some technology that was introduced about the time the problem began
and has been increasing at about the same rate the bee populations
have been decreasing *could* (maybe!) be associated.

A lot of ifs and maybes at this point, but it ought to be easy enough
to run a controlled experiment to see if the insects are confused by
any sort of electronic transmissions.
I could buy into this theory in a New York minute. It's pretty much
proven that transmitted radio signals can screw up birds (think AF
PAVE/PAWS OTHR on the Cape) and there were all the problems the Navy
had with powerful sonar signals messing up blue whales and dolphins.

It would make sense that really high frequency signals could mess
up insects.

I'd like to see some hard experimentation though.
Maybe Autism is up in bees because of all the chemicals in the
environment. And they can not function.
Could also be that they are on strike for higher honey wages.

Whatever the cause, I know who Harry would blame.

It has to be big honey!

Now there is a name for a band.

Big Honey.

Or a really large stripper.

EEEWWWWWWW........

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:49:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:23?pm, BAR wrote:
Dan wrote:
Are you serious? ?Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive only -
much
like an FM radio. ?On or off the signals are still there.
Isn't there a correlation between when GPS went into operation and when
the bees started to decline? Hasn't it been within the last 30 years for
both? Cause and effect.
If observations that something is interferring with the bees' ability
to navigate back and forth from the hive are correct, and if the
problem is indeed getting worse as alleged, then it could well be that
some technology that was introduced about the time the problem began
and has been increasing at about the same rate the bee populations
have been decreasing *could* (maybe!) be associated.

A lot of ifs and maybes at this point, but it ought to be easy enough
to run a controlled experiment to see if the insects are confused by
any sort of electronic transmissions.
I could buy into this theory in a New York minute. It's pretty much
proven that transmitted radio signals can screw up birds (think AF
PAVE/PAWS OTHR on the Cape) and there were all the problems the Navy
had with powerful sonar signals messing up blue whales and dolphins.

It would make sense that really high frequency signals could mess up
insects.

I'd like to see some hard experimentation though.
Maybe Autism is up in bees because of all the chemicals in the environment.
And they can not function.
Could also be that they are on strike for higher honey wages.

Whatever the cause, I know who Harry would blame.

Let me guess...

On second thought...

Never mind. :)

Cell phones killing honey bees? Will GPS be the next technologyblamed?
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:49:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing"
wrote in message ...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:23?pm, BAR wrote:
Dan wrote:
Are you serious? ?Cell phone theory aside, GPS's are receive
only - much
like an FM radio. ?On or off the signals are still there.
Isn't there a correlation between when GPS went into operation
and when
the bees started to decline? Hasn't it been within the last 30
years for
both? Cause and effect.
If observations that something is interferring with the bees' ability
to navigate back and forth from the hive are correct, and if the
problem is indeed getting worse as alleged, then it could well be
that
some technology that was introduced about the time the problem began
and has been increasing at about the same rate the bee populations
have been decreasing *could* (maybe!) be associated.

A lot of ifs and maybes at this point, but it ought to be easy enough
to run a controlled experiment to see if the insects are confused by
any sort of electronic transmissions.
I could buy into this theory in a New York minute. It's pretty much
proven that transmitted radio signals can screw up birds (think AF
PAVE/PAWS OTHR on the Cape) and there were all the problems the Navy
had with powerful sonar signals messing up blue whales and dolphins.

It would make sense that really high frequency signals could mess
up insects.

I'd like to see some hard experimentation though.
Maybe Autism is up in bees because of all the chemicals in the
environment. And they can not function.
Could also be that they are on strike for higher honey wages.

Whatever the cause, I know who Harry would blame.

Let me guess...

On second thought...

Never mind. :)


Is there some rule that I have to participate in every bit of nonsense
here? :}

There is?

Oh.

Dick Cheney did it.