Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

Well, it was way too far away (about 400 mi) for me to get, but I
almost pulled the trigger on a 30 ft. pontoon boat. Looked pretty
good. (deffinately not new) but had lots of potential. It had a junk
50 hp Chrysler on it, but the transom was thick and wll braced,a nd I
thought I've got the engine for it with the 115 V-4 Evinrude I now
have. so I was really getting itchy. then I though, now that thing
will steer like a log wagon because of its length. no tight
manuverability. For running the Ohio or Illinois river[s], and even
the Wabash in Indiana, and Carlyle lake it would be ok, too, and those
places are where I'd take it. But for getting in tighter turns would a
front rudder help steer it?
I know that cars and some pickups trucks have had 4 wheel steering for
years. And I didn't know if a small rudder mounted between the front
of the pontoons would be worthy on this size of a craft, or not.

I know I'm probably answering my own question, but it probably
wouldn't be that practical, otherwise they'd all be coming out with
them.

Any Ideas?

Thanks!

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 14, 3:09�pm, "Tim" wrote:
Well, it was way too far away (about 400 mi) for me to get, but I
almost pulled the trigger on a 30 ft. pontoon boat. Looked pretty
good. (deffinately not new) but had lots of potential. It had a junk
50 hp Chrysler on it, but the transom was thick and wll braced,a nd I
thought I've got the engine for it with the 115 V-4 Evinrude I now
have. so I was really getting itchy. then I though, now that thing
will steer like a log wagon because of its length. no tight
manuverability. *For running the Ohio or Illinois river[s], and even
the Wabash in Indiana, and Carlyle lake it would be ok, too, and those
places are where I'd take it. But for getting in tighter turns would a
front rudder help steer it?
I know that cars and some pickups trucks have had 4 wheel steering for
years. And I didn't know if a small rudder mounted between the front
of the pontoons would be worthy on this size of a craft, or not.

I know I'm probably answering my own question, but it probably
wouldn't be that practical, otherwise they'd all be coming out with
them.

Any Ideas?

Thanks!

Putting a second rudder on the front would likely result in capsizing
at any serious turn of speed.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote
Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.

How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message
...
"Chuck Gould" wrote
Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.

How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?


Wonder if a robust Minn Kota electric motor at the bow would assist
steering...... acting like a poor man's bow thruster.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 8:12 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message

...

"Chuck Gould" wrote
Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.

How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?

Wonder if a robust Minn Kota electric motor at the bow would assist
steering...... acting like a poor man's bow thruster.

Don, after the fact, i thougth of that myself. and with it cabled up
to the steering, it could also act as a rudder I suppose, or jsut
throw it in and use it to aid docking ect.

that's also and idea.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 5:44?am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote

Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.

How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?

With far too much horsepower. :-)

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 6:21�am, "Tim" wrote:
On Apr 15, 8:12 am, "Don White" wrote:

"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message

m...

"Chuck Gould" wrote
Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.

How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?

Wonder if a robust Minn Kota electric motor at the bow would assist
steering...... acting like a poor man's bow thruster.

Don, after the fact, i thougth of that myself. and with it cabled up
to the steering, it could also act as a rudder I suppose, or jsut
throw it in and use it to aid *docking ect.

that's also and idea.

The normal method of moving the bow somewhat independently of the
stern is to use a thruster, not a second rudder.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On 15 Apr 2007 07:25:08 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

The normal method of moving the bow somewhat independently of the
stern is to use a thruster, not a second rudder.

Actually not.

I've never seen thrusters on a pontoon boat but I do see quite a few
with widely spaced twin outboards, and that seems to work just fine.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

If you've got a lot of side to side swing most of these turn pretty well at
slow speeds. If you're looking at pontoon boats manuverability is not one
of your primary requirements.

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, it was way too far away (about 400 mi) for me to get, but I
almost pulled the trigger on a 30 ft. pontoon boat. Looked pretty
good. (deffinately not new) but had lots of potential. It had a junk
50 hp Chrysler on it, but the transom was thick and wll braced,a nd I
thought I've got the engine for it with the 115 V-4 Evinrude I now
have. so I was really getting itchy. then I though, now that thing
will steer like a log wagon because of its length. no tight
manuverability. For running the Ohio or Illinois river[s], and even
the Wabash in Indiana, and Carlyle lake it would be ok, too, and those
places are where I'd take it. But for getting in tighter turns would a
front rudder help steer it?
I know that cars and some pickups trucks have had 4 wheel steering for
years. And I didn't know if a small rudder mounted between the front
of the pontoons would be worthy on this size of a craft, or not.

I know I'm probably answering my own question, but it probably
wouldn't be that practical, otherwise they'd all be coming out with
them.

Any Ideas?

Thanks!

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On 15 Apr 2007 07:25:08 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

The normal method of moving the bow somewhat independently of the
stern is to use a thruster, not a second rudder.

Actually not.

I've never seen thrusters on a pontoon boat but I do see quite a few
with widely spaced twin outboards, and that seems to work just fine.


I use a Minn Kota 65 AP on my boat while trolling lakes. Lock the kicker
straight ahead, and use the trolling motor to steer the front of the boat.
Works very well.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

Tim wrote:

I know I'm probably answering my own question, but it probably
wouldn't be that practical, otherwise they'd all be coming out with
them.
Any Ideas?

Woo Hoo, my first real contribution opportunity since I came back!

I was researching this manufacturer for a bow thruster for 50' monohull
houseboat I'm currently re-powering and I came across one of their
products designed as a bow thruster for pontoons - it's kind of like an
bow mounted trolling motor except that it mounts on the underside of the
deck. Obviously not something you'd drop into the water at any great
speed, but great for maneuvering in tight quarters.

http://www.sideshift.com/BoatType/pontoon.htm

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Dave Brown" wrote in message
...
snip
I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/


I'm sure the newsgroup lawmen will give you a short 'grace period' before
rounding you up.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 9:22 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Apr 15, 5:44?am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote

Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.

How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?

With far too much horsepower. :-)

But Chuck, one doesn't have to run the engine wide open all the time.

I was thinking about low throttle, and bow assistance.

Pushing away from a dock, a thrusting device aka trolling motor would
be fine, but i was thinking more to make the craft more nimble under
weigh.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:


Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-

P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

Tim wrote:
On Apr 15, 9:22 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Apr 15, 5:44?am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote
Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.
How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?
With far too much horsepower. :-)

But Chuck, one doesn't have to run the engine wide open all the time.

I was thinking about low throttle, and bow assistance.

Pushing away from a dock, a thrusting device aka trolling motor would
be fine, but i was thinking more to make the craft more nimble under
weigh.


Tim,

How fast will you be moving where you need the added steering control?
The trolling motor idea sounds good for 5 MPH or so. Here's one with
a remote control for the steering!

http://www.minnkotamotors.com/produc...pg=fbm_terrova

Dan

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:


Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-

P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.



Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:44:45 -0400, Dave Brown
wrote:

Tim wrote:

I know I'm probably answering my own question, but it probably
wouldn't be that practical, otherwise they'd all be coming out with
them.
Any Ideas?

Woo Hoo, my first real contribution opportunity since I came back!

I was researching this manufacturer for a bow thruster for 50' monohull
houseboat I'm currently re-powering and I came across one of their
products designed as a bow thruster for pontoons - it's kind of like an
bow mounted trolling motor except that it mounts on the underside of the
deck. Obviously not something you'd drop into the water at any great
speed, but great for maneuvering in tight quarters.

http://www.sideshift.com/BoatType/pontoon.htm

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

If you want to fit in with the right crowd, you should , at least, call
someone an asshole, and then say you've got them 'filtered'!

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:


Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-

P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.



Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:44:45 -0400, Dave Brown
wrote:

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

The rules are that there are no rules.

If you break them however, someone will be sure to tell you about it.

Skipper has been mercifully MIA for quite awhile so you won't have to
worry about him.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:44:45 -0400, Dave Brown
wrote:

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

The rules are that there are no rules.

If you break them however, someone will be sure to tell you about it.

Skipper has been mercifully MIA for quite awhile so you won't have to
worry about him.



Indeed, the new king'o'flame is...Chuck.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!




JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 3:00 pm, Dan wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Apr 15, 9:22 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Apr 15, 5:44?am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote
Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.
How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?
With far too much horsepower. :-)

But Chuck, one doesn't have to run the engine wide open all the time.

I was thinking about low throttle, and bow assistance.

Pushing away from a dock, a thrusting device aka trolling motor would
be fine, but i was thinking more to make the craft more nimble under
weigh.

Tim,

How fast will you be moving where you need the added steering control?
The trolling motor idea sounds good for 5 MPH or so. Here's one with
a remote control for the steering!

http://www.minnkotamotors.com/produc...pg=fbm_terrova

Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dan, that's the type of speed I was talking about. I never heard of a
remote control and remote steering trolling motor, but I'm not
surprised thats it's ont he market. Probably has been longer than
I've thought. but that would probably work.

I didn't look around too much ont he site, but I didn't see any price
listed.

Probably more than what I'd really care to spend anyhow. but good to
know it's available.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 5:02 pm, Harry Krause wrote:

Indeed, the new king'o'flame is...Chuck.

But it seems like the true *K*I*N*G* is still omnipresent, and ready
to argue over anything.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 5:02 pm, Harry Krause wrote:

Indeed, the new king'o'flame is...Chuck.

But it seems like the true *K*I*N*G* is still omnipresent, and ready
to argue over anything.



John Herring?

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 6:13 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Apr 15, 5:02 pm, Harry Krause wrote:

Indeed, the new king'o'flame is...Chuck.

But it seems like the true *K*I*N*G* is still omnipresent, and ready
to argue over anything.

John Herring?

Wasn't who I was thinking of, Jim.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 3:02?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:44:45 -0400, Dave Brown
wrote:

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

The rules are that there are no rules.

If you break them however, someone will be sure to tell you about it.

Skipper has been mercifully MIA for quite awhile so you won't have to
worry about him.

Indeed, the new king'o'flame is...Chuck.

Indeed.

You'll notice that I'm forever mentioning you in a derogatory manner
in my posts, while you are far too sophisticated and mature to do
likewise. No wonder I get such grief from you and your disciples, I
deserve it because I'm "flaming" you all the time.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!


JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.


Johnny Appleseed it is! He seems to have given up all pretensions of being
an unbiased, fair sheriff.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:01:49 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:


Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-

P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.



Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


Not a bad idea. Have you planted your tree yet? Only $25, and you can do it
in memory of Jimmy!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:03:52 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!




JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.

The three Hazeltones, all in a row. You've gotta love such neat guys! Dave,
if you're listening, this is the crowd to get on good terms with. They're a
great group of folks! Donnie, Jimmie, and Harrie! You go boys!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:57:13 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!


JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.


Johnny Appleseed it is! He seems to have given up all pretensions of being
an unbiased, fair sheriff.


You guys are like the Energizer Bunny! It must be a real pleasure to be so
cool and neat!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

Rookies... gotta love 'em. Anyone that's been around rec.boats KNOWS you
have to have some sort of political troll in your post. Get with the program
man! ;-)

--Mike

"Dave Brown" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:

I know I'm probably answering my own question, but it probably
wouldn't be that practical, otherwise they'd all be coming out with
them.
Any Ideas?

Woo Hoo, my first real contribution opportunity since I came back!

I was researching this manufacturer for a bow thruster for 50' monohull
houseboat I'm currently re-powering and I came across one of their
products designed as a bow thruster for pontoons - it's kind of like an
bow mounted trolling motor except that it mounts on the underside of the
deck. Obviously not something you'd drop into the water at any great
speed, but great for maneuvering in tight quarters.

http://www.sideshift.com/BoatType/pontoon.htm

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

Indeed, the new king'o'flame is...Chuck

I dunno Harry. Glass houses comes to mind...

--Mike

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:44:45 -0400, Dave Brown
wrote:

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

The rules are that there are no rules.

If you break them however, someone will be sure to tell you about it.

Skipper has been mercifully MIA for quite awhile so you won't have to
worry about him.



Indeed, the new king'o'flame is...Chuck.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Apr 15, 11:44�am, Dave Brown wrote:
Tim wrote:
I know I'm probably answering my own question, but it probably
wouldn't be that practical, otherwise they'd all be coming out with
them.
Any Ideas?

Woo Hoo, my first real contribution opportunity since I came back!

I was researching this manufacturer for a bow thruster for 50' monohull
houseboat I'm currently re-powering and I came across one of their
products designed as a bow thruster for pontoons - it's kind of like an
bow mounted trolling motor except that it mounts on the underside of the
deck. Obviously not something you'd drop into the water at any great
speed, but great for maneuvering in tight quarters.

http://www.sideshift.com/BoatType/pontoon.htm

I'm rusty at this - should I end with a flame under the new newsgroup
rules? Is there a probation period before I can declare omnipotence? ;-)

--
Regards,
* * * Dave Brown
* * * Brown's Marina Ltd
* * *http://brownsmarina.com/

Welcome back, Dave!

Glad to see you're still around, and in the marina business.

Weren't you thinking of taking up school teaching a few years ago?

There aren't any new newsgroup rules. Some folks are placing greater
emphasis on staying on topic, avoiding political debates, and trying
to discuss things like adults. For others, it's pretty much business
as usual- but it sort of works out that a more few people acting like
grownups makes a significant difference.

The folks who have found this site since your departure will be
pleasantly surprised with the depth of your experience and willingness
to share. Here's hoping nobody takes off on some crusade against you
(like before)- you were always an asset to the group.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

Chuck Gould wrote:

Welcome back, Dave!

Thanks Chuck :-)

Glad to see you're still around, and in the marina business.
Weren't you thinking of taking up school teaching a few years ago?

Yup. Been there, done that, even got a shirt. Way better money, far less
work, and yet here I am still in the friggin boat business. I teach when
time permits still, but less so every year. I think I've clocked in a
whole 8 days since Sept this year.

The folks who have found this site since your departure will be
pleasantly surprised with the depth of your experience and willingness
to share. Here's hoping nobody takes off on some crusade against you
(like before)- you were always an asset to the group.

I don't recall a crusade per se, although I do admit to being somewhat
flabbergasted by Karen's insatiable appetite for baiting. I had to exit
to get some control on my time since I was going to university full
time, and still managing the marina full time so something had to give.

I guess it's time for an update though. With the fall of OMC and the
subsequent purchase of Princecraft boats by Mercury, I am also a full
line Mercury dealer now (as well as retaining my Johnson/Evinrude
dealerships). Been a steep learning curve getting on track with Mercury,
but we're getting a handle on it. Now I can wax poetic on more brands :-)

Nice to see some old faces still here - but where's Skippy?

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Dave Brown" wrote in message
...

... I am also a full line Mercury dealer now (as well as retaining my
Johnson/Evinrude dealerships). Been a steep learning curve getting on
track with Mercury, but we're getting a handle on it. Now I can wax poetic
on more brands :-)

Nice to see some old faces still here --
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/


Welcome back, my old friend, how are things up there in the cold part of the
continent?

Do you still remember which end of a hammer or a screwdriver to hold on to?

Bill Grannis
service manager

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:21:37 -0400, Dave Brown
wrote:

Nice to see some old faces still here - but where's Skippy?

Be careful what you ask for...

He came out of newsgroup retirement for a brief time a few years back
and was crankier than ever.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

Billgran wrote:

Welcome back, my old friend, how are things up there in the cold part of the
continent?

Good to see you old salt - how have you been keeping? Getting snow here
today and, of course, that means a few mooring covers are gonna get
ripped. Kids even got a snow day from school.

Do you still remember which end of a hammer or a screwdriver to hold on to?

I'm embarrassed to say I don't do much wrenching anymore - I just step
in every once in a while to show the younin's there's still a reason the
keep me around. ;-)

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:57:13 GMT, "Don White"
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said
so.
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*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!


JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.


Johnny Appleseed it is! He seems to have given up all pretensions of
being
an unbiased, fair sheriff.


You guys are like the Energizer Bunny! It must be a real pleasure to be so
cool and neat!
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*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

You should be calm & mellow John. It's not everyday you hit the grand old
age of 70 something. Congratulations.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:57:13 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said
so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!


JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.


Johnny Appleseed it is! He seems to have given up all pretensions of
being
an unbiased, fair sheriff.


You guys are like the Energizer Bunny! It must be a real pleasure to be
so
cool and neat!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

You should be calm & mellow John. It's not everyday you hit the grand
old age of 70 something. Congratulations.


70? I remember seeing him in a picture when he had his boat . The guy
looked at least 75 then.

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:49:08 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:57:13 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said
so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!


JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.


Johnny Appleseed it is! He seems to have given up all pretensions of
being
an unbiased, fair sheriff.


You guys are like the Energizer Bunny! It must be a real pleasure to be so
cool and neat!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

You should be calm & mellow John. It's not everyday you hit the grand old
age of 70 something. Congratulations.


Thankee, thankee. I am! Yesterday I was 63! My daughters met me in
Fredricksburg with all six grandkids, and we had dinner at Cracker Barrel.
They bought!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H