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basskisser April 16th 07 04:05 PM

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 
On Apr 16, 9:19 am, "JimH" wrote:
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On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:


Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said
so.
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John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD


Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!


But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!


JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.


Johnny Appleseed it is! He seems to have given up all pretensions of
being
an unbiased, fair sheriff.


You guys are like the Energizer Bunny! It must be a real pleasure to be
so
cool and neat!
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You should be calm & mellow John. It's not everyday you hit the grand
old age of 70 something. Congratulations.


70? I remember seeing him in a picture when he had his boat . The guy
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Let's see a picture of you to compare.......


Tim April 16th 07 04:44 PM

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 

John H. wrote:

Thankee, thankee. I am! Yesterday I was 63! My daughters met me in
Fredricksburg with all six grandkids, and we had dinner at Cracker Barrel.
They bought!
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*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


Congrats, John. I'm sure you had a good time with the family, and
hoping you have many more.


John H. April 16th 07 08:55 PM

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 
On 16 Apr 2007 08:44:42 -0700, "Tim" wrote:


John H. wrote:

Thankee, thankee. I am! Yesterday I was 63! My daughters met me in
Fredricksburg with all six grandkids, and we had dinner at Cracker Barrel.
They bought!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


Congrats, John. I'm sure you had a good time with the family, and
hoping you have many more.


Thanks! I'm hoping to. That's why I quit smoking!
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*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

John H. April 16th 07 08:58 PM

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:19:33 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:57:13 GMT, "Don White"
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JimH wrote:
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On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:

Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said
so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD

Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!

But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!


JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.


Johnny Appleseed it is! He seems to have given up all pretensions of
being
an unbiased, fair sheriff.


You guys are like the Energizer Bunny! It must be a real pleasure to be
so
cool and neat!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


You should be calm & mellow John. It's not everyday you hit the grand
old age of 70 something. Congratulations.


70? I remember seeing him in a picture when he had his boat . The guy
looked at least 75 then.


Jimmy, you are *so* neat and cool! Did you know that everyone here wants to
be *just like you*?
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

John H. April 16th 07 08:58 PM

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 
On 16 Apr 2007 08:05:19 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:19 am, "JimH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:57:13 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Tim" wrote in message
oglegroups.com...
On Apr 15, 3:06 pm, John H. wrote:


Tim - I think you need one of those. You can tell your wife I said
so.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****


John H-
P 340 30' to 40' ft. $3,995.00 USD


Er, that waqs more than the whole pontoon w/trailer!


But gives me some ideas for the future, though.


Maybe JohnH can put on a fundraiser to help defray the high expense.
It's the least he can do after all you've sent him.


ROTF!!!!!!!!!!


JohnH is busy pretending he is Johnny Appleseed.


Johnny Appleseed it is! He seems to have given up all pretensions of
being
an unbiased, fair sheriff.


You guys are like the Energizer Bunny! It must be a real pleasure to be
so
cool and neat!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****


John H


You should be calm & mellow John. It's not everyday you hit the grand
old age of 70 something. Congratulations.


70? I remember seeing him in a picture when he had his boat . The guy
looked at least 75 then.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Let's see a picture of you to compare.......


Jimmy's a real neat guy. I'm sure he thinks he's quite cute too!
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*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Tim April 17th 07 01:35 AM

Would a front rudder help steer the thing?
 
On Apr 15, 5:53 pm, "Tim" wrote:
On Apr 15, 3:00 pm, Dan wrote:





Tim wrote:
On Apr 15, 9:22 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Apr 15, 5:44?am, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote
Putting a second rudder on the front would likely
result in capsizing at any serious turn of speed.
How you gonna get a serious turn of speed in a 30' pontoon boat?
With far too much horsepower. :-)


But Chuck, one doesn't have to run the engine wide open all the time.


I was thinking about low throttle, and bow assistance.


Pushing away from a dock, a thrusting device aka trolling motor would
be fine, but i was thinking more to make the craft more nimble under
weigh.


Tim,


How fast will you be moving where you need the added steering control?
The trolling motor idea sounds good for 5 MPH or so. Here's one with
a remote control for the steering!


http://www.minnkotamotors.com/produc...pg=fbm_terrova


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Dan, that's the type of speed I was talking about. I never heard of a
remote control and remote steering trolling motor, but I'm not
surprised thats it's ont he market. Probably has been longer than
I've thought. but that would probably work.

I didn't look around too much ont he site, but I didn't see any price
listed.

Probably more than what I'd really care to spend anyhow. but good to
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OK, I did some thinking on this project today, and it would probably
work. instead of "rudders" use "Flaps" on the pilots side pontoon,
put two flaps right on the sides of the point of the pontoon. with
what ever levers one would use. (Twin inboard throttle or shift
controls come to mind), attach so when needing to enhance steering to
port, then advancing the starboard lever, it woul swing the outboard
flap out x-number degrees aiding steering the pontoon to port. , re-
center the lever and the flap retracts back to the side of the point
of the pontoon. need help steering Starboard, then advance the port
side lever and the inboard flap advances x-number of degrees to aid in
starboard steering.


really simple when one thinks about it.


Oh well, if it worked that great they'd all have them.....



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