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On Mar 24, 4:35�pm, Gene Kearns
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Since everybody is posting OT, I thought I would revisit a topic that
we discussed a year or so ago.

I was doing some deck work and had bought some stainless deck screws
with the Robertson square drive. I thought they sucked, since they
were hard to drive and tended to strip out and break off.... *others
suggested that I should be pre-drilling holes. That seemed like a
unnecessary and labor intensive task.

The local building supply has stopped carrying the Robertson headed
screws and now supplies an exterior plated screw (Grip Rite) with star
drive. They are excellent! I've driven a whole box of 4 inch screws
and not one single stripped head or broken screw (and no predilling,
either).

They worked for me.....

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Good advice.

And it might just be my odd perspective, but I'd think that the
fasteners you are using on your deck are pretty much in topic here.

Do you think the difference is in the casting or tempering (or
whatever the process is) of the screw itself, or does the star drive
head spread the torque more evenly to reduce the stress on the
threaded shank?

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On 24 Mar 2007 16:56:10 -0700, Chuck Gould penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Mar 24, 4:35?pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
Since everybody is posting OT, I thought I would revisit a topic that
we discussed a year or so ago.

I was doing some deck work and had bought some stainless deck screws
with the Robertson square drive. I thought they sucked, since they
were hard to drive and tended to strip out and break off.... /thers
suggested that I should be pre-drilling holes. That seemed like a
unnecessary and labor intensive task.

The local building supply has stopped carrying the Robertson headed
screws and now supplies an exterior plated screw (Grip Rite) with star
drive. They are excellent! I've driven a whole box of 4 inch screws
and not one single stripped head or broken screw (and no predilling,
either).

They worked for me.....


Good advice.

And it might just be my odd perspective, but I'd think that the
fasteners you are using on your deck are pretty much in topic here.

Do you think the difference is in the casting or tempering (or
whatever the process is) of the screw itself, or does the star drive
head spread the torque more evenly to reduce the stress on the
threaded shank?


I suspect the other screws were made of 304 or 316 stainless....
neither, a heat treatable alloy.... though they could have been work
hardened to some degree in the thread rolling process.

The magic, ASFAIK, is in the different material and definitely in the
star drive which distributes the torque over a larger surface area....

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I used the Torx head stainless on my deck. Small head, so is not really
noticeable. As to Grip Rite screws, the Philips version sux. They seem to
strip easily as oppose to the others that are a combo Square drive /
Phillips head.


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On 24 Mar 2007 16:56:10 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
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On Mar 24, 4:35?pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
Since everybody is posting OT, I thought I would revisit a topic that
we discussed a year or so ago.

I was doing some deck work and had bought some stainless deck screws
with the Robertson square drive. I thought they sucked, since they
were hard to drive and tended to strip out and break off.... /thers
suggested that I should be pre-drilling holes. That seemed like a
unnecessary and labor intensive task.

The local building supply has stopped carrying the Robertson headed
screws and now supplies an exterior plated screw (Grip Rite) with star
drive. They are excellent! I've driven a whole box of 4 inch screws
and not one single stripped head or broken screw (and no predilling,
either).

They worked for me.....

I haven't done decks, but often pre-drill to avoid splitting.
Non-issue with decks?

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