snip might be impossible.

--Vic

.

Well this one I have a little bit of experiance with; used boat = rip
every stitch of wire out of the boat and re run it all.
In my experiance the problems i have had on most boats have been with
wireing and standing rigging.
standing rig i usually have enough stuff to fix it on hand. but a
short or a loose wire in the bilge etc can cause things to go
gunnybags at the wrong time. most of the electrical is coverd up so
you cannot see what is wired correctly and what is not .

2MT

On 24 Mar 2007 13:30:00 -0700, "Two meter troll"
wrote:

Well this one I have a little bit of experiance with; used boat = rip
every stitch of wire out of the boat and re run it all.
In my experiance the problems i have had on most boats have been with
wireing and standing rigging.
standing rig i usually have enough stuff to fix it on hand. but a
short or a loose wire in the bilge etc can cause things to go
gunnybags at the wrong time. most of the electrical is coverd up so
you cannot see what is wired correctly and what is not .

Rewiring an old boat first off would be my inclination too.
20-40 year-old wire, and 20-40 years of hatchet jobs done
to the wiring by "sailors." No thanks! .
Even on a new Mac 26M first thing you do if you intend
electrical additions is toss the stock electric panel and
get a beefier one that fits your needs.

--Vic

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:32:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

--Livability. I just don't have the experience here, from what I've
read the Mac is as comfortable as any 26. Since I've tented for
weeks at a time, I don't see a problem with it. I'm not going to be
living on the boat. Me and the wife on 2-6 week cruises, and we
are not tall, and not fat.

With all due respect, that boat will get very small for two people
after a few days of cruising. I appreciate what you are trying to do
but I hate to see you spend money on a boat that neither sails, motors
or cruises very well. See if you can rent one for a week before you
buy.

In the long run I think you'd be happier with something like a RF246
with a 4 stroke outboard on it.

http://www.rosboroughboats.com/

Try to find a good used one.

..

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:02:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:32:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

--Livability. I just don't have the experience here, from what I've
read the Mac is as comfortable as any 26. Since I've tented for
weeks at a time, I don't see a problem with it. I'm not going to be
living on the boat. Me and the wife on 2-6 week cruises, and we
are not tall, and not fat.

With all due respect, that boat will get very small for two people
after a few days of cruising. I appreciate what you are trying to do
but I hate to see you spend money on a boat that neither sails, motors
or cruises very well. See if you can rent one for a week before you
buy.

In the long run I think you'd be happier with something like a RF246
with a 4 stroke outboard on it.

http://www.rosboroughboats.com/

Try to find a good used one.

That is a nice looking boat. Any idea what they cost new?
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:02:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:32:11 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

--Livability. I just don't have the experience here, from what I've
read the Mac is as comfortable as any 26. Since I've tented for
weeks at a time, I don't see a problem with it. I'm not going to be
living on the boat. Me and the wife on 2-6 week cruises, and we
are not tall, and not fat.

With all due respect, that boat will get very small for two people
after a few days of cruising. I appreciate what you are trying to do
but I hate to see you spend money on a boat that neither sails, motors
or cruises very well. See if you can rent one for a week before you
buy.

In the long run I think you'd be happier with something like a RF246
with a 4 stroke outboard on it.

http://www.rosboroughboats.com/

Try to find a good used one.

Thanks. Nice boat, but might be a bit rich for my blood. Hadn't seen
it before even with all my browsing. You may be right on target
though, and I take your advice to try out what I'm buying before I buy
it to heart. You gave me another avenue to explore.
Although I'm not young, I'm still in pretty good shape, and do like
the idea of sailing, having crewed some.

--Vic

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:44:46 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Although I'm not young, I'm still in pretty good shape, and do like
the idea of sailing, having crewed some.

Sure, sailing is great fun but it is difficult to get a boat that
sails well and cruises well, and still meets your shallow draft
requirement. You might want to get an inexpensive day sailor just as
a fun boat. There are lots to choose from, but one of my choices
would be a Flying Scot.

http://www.flyingscot.com/

They are good boats that sail very well and meet your specs with the
exception of cruising. You can beach them and go tent camping of
course. I'm guessing you could pick up a good used one with trailer
for less than $5K.

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:19:26 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:44:46 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Although I'm not young, I'm still in pretty good shape, and do like
the idea of sailing, having crewed some.

Sure, sailing is great fun but it is difficult to get a boat that
sails well and cruises well, and still meets your shallow draft
requirement. You might want to get an inexpensive day sailor just as
a fun boat. There are lots to choose from, but one of my choices
would be a Flying Scot.

http://www.flyingscot.com/

They are good boats that sail very well and meet your specs with the
exception of cruising. You can beach them and go tent camping of
course. I'm guessing you could pick up a good used one with trailer
for less than $5K.

Boy, you're gonna keep me busy boating on the net for a few more days
now! You've dead on about combining cruising/sailing/shallow draft
capabilities in one boat I can afford. That Mac 26 comes closest
right now.
Ideally, I'd get a Flying Scot for sailing and something like the
Rosborough RF-246 for cruising, but I'm not ready to commit that much
money yet. Too many questions to be answered, especially some
hands-on boating. Now I want to try that Flying Scot, but I've got no
doubt it'll make the Max 26 feel like a dog under sail.
Thanks for the ideas. Now I'll go tell the wife I changed my mind
about buying a boat. I want at least 2 boats.

--Vic

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:48:24 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

Now I want to try that Flying Scot, but I've got no
doubt it'll make the Max 26 feel like a dog under sail.

More like 3 dogs :-)

The Flying Scot will run circles around it.

The mac 26 is just too big a compromise in my opinion. Most people
end up using them under power most of the time, and they aren't nearly
as well suited for that as a real power boat.

Vic Smith wrote:


Thanks. Nice boat, but might be a bit rich for my blood. Hadn't seen
it before even with all my browsing. You may be right on target
though, and I take your advice to try out what I'm buying before I buy
it to heart. You gave me another avenue to explore.
Although I'm not young, I'm still in pretty good shape, and do like
the idea of sailing, having crewed some.

--Vic

Heck, Vic.

My boat is smaller that that - a LOT smaller - and we do fine for
a few nights.

Who you are with makes a big difference.

Richard

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:41:40 GMT, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:


Thanks. Nice boat, but might be a bit rich for my blood. Hadn't seen
it before even with all my browsing. You may be right on target
though, and I take your advice to try out what I'm buying before I buy
it to heart. You gave me another avenue to explore.
Although I'm not young, I'm still in pretty good shape, and do like
the idea of sailing, having crewed some.

--Vic

Heck, Vic.

My boat is smaller that that - a LOT smaller - and we do fine for
a few nights.

Yeah, everybody has different preferences. And I'm old enough to know
better than commit to any dream world without trying it first.

Who you are with makes a big difference.

Got that covered. But then there's the other half who might
think different when she's locked on the same boat with me for days on
end. Wait a minute, maybe I don't have that covered myself!

--Vic