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Eisboch March 14th 07 09:36 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch



JoeSpareBedroom March 14th 07 09:44 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.



Not the killer parakeets....tell me it's not that.



Eisboch March 14th 07 09:48 PM

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.




Not the killer parakeets....tell me it's not that.



SSSSHhhhhhhh!!!!

(jeeze)

Eisboch



Harry Krause March 14th 07 09:56 PM

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Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...


Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch




O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?

JimH March 14th 07 10:01 PM

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""UglyDan®©T"" wrote in message
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(basskisser)wrote
Locked in a room for one hour with me.


I seriously doubt hurling obscenities at someone like that would have
much effect.
Then again being locked up in the same room with you for more than five
minutes would probably drive anyone crazy.
BTW, Hows it going with FSX? UD





Dan, unless you like to read his posts for entertainment value it is best
to put him in your bozo-bin. He has never offered anything positive to
this NG.



You, on the other hand, offer enlightenment at every turn. I can't tell
you how many times I've awakened in the wee hours of the morning, checked
the newsgroup, and been crushed when I didn't find new messages from you.

Asshole.


I guess we all have our flaws. Yours include your total lack of common
sense and inability to think logically.......most especially having a potty
mouth akin to a 12 year old boy.

Have a nice day Doug.



Eisboch March 14th 07 10:15 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an
alarm system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch



O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?



Funny you should mention that. We have a picture, taken back in the 80's at
a restaurant in Carmel, CA of Mrs.E. standing with O.J. Simpson (he has his
arm around her). We were just looking at it the other day.

She's the only person on the face of the earth that still thinks he is
innocent.

Eisboch



Harry Krause March 14th 07 10:30 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...


Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an
alarm system so we will not be changing our locks.

I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch


O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?



Funny you should mention that. We have a picture, taken back in the 80's at
a restaurant in Carmel, CA of Mrs.E. standing with O.J. Simpson (he has his
arm around her). We were just looking at it the other day.

She's the only person on the face of the earth that still thinks he is
innocent.

Eisboch



Would have have been Clint's restaurant? We ate there a night he was
there. Nice to see him (we didn't invade his privacy). The food was
mediocre.

Chuck Gould March 14th 07 11:16 PM

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On Mar 14, 2:23�pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Always tell the cops "If I find them before you do, you'd better have a
real strong stomach, officer, because all you're gonna find is a hand in
a zip lock bag".


Why should you be the only one nauseated? Share it.


Our house was broken into back in the mid-80's while we were at work and
the kids were in school.
They stole a TV, VCR/camera and some other misc. stuff.


When the cops arrived and were dusting for prints and taking our
statement, one of them asked me how it felt. *I told him I was bull****
and wished I had been at home when they broke in. *He told me if it ever
happened again to use a baseball bat or a 2x4 cut in half on them (but not
a gun) before I called the police. *He said they wouldn't ask any
questions.


Eisboch


Bummer! * Have you seen this?http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. *We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And you are even more vulnerable if you have a "master key" system on
your door. A normal pin tumbler lock works very simply. When someone
attempts to turn the key, the core cylinder is prevented from
revolving by a series of pins that protrude from the outside cylinder
into the core cylinder. Each pin has an upper and lower section, and
the lengths will vary. The cuts on a key are designed to lift the
individual pins to a level where the separation between the upper and
lower pins lines up exactly with the intersection of the inner and
outer core.

Picking a lock is fairly easy. A small wrench inserted into the keyway
is used to sustain a moderate amount of torque on the inner cylinder
while a "pick" is inserted to raise the tumblers, one at a time, to
the point where the separation
in the pin meets the intersection of the inner and outer cylinders.
Since the tumbler holes are never drilled *exactly* straight, the
cylinder will normally shift just enough to keep the upper portion of
the pin from falling back through the intersection of the cylinders.

Always try to resist having a "master key" pin tumbler system if you
can.
Master keys work by using a greater number of sections for each
tumbler, thereby creating more opportunities for a split in the pin to
line up with the edge of the cylinder.

All these bumpers are doing is relying on the jarring impact of a
hammer, screwdriver, etc, to "bounce" the tumblers enough so that the
torque will turn the cylinder. Pretty primitive, but often effective.
I'm surprised that it took this long for the crooks to figure that one
out. :-)

Somewhat more on topic: Even notice how many $1mm boats are protected
by nothing more than a $20 padlock? And anybody that has ever been in
a marine related business very quickly realizes that most boats have a
"hideout" key that usually be found in one of 8-10 common locations
near the aft bulkhead door. It's amazing that we have as little theft
in marinas as we do.
Security gates may look impressive, but anybody with a $9.99 air
mattress can figure out how to get around the security gate at a
marina.


JimH March 14th 07 11:25 PM

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Mar 14, 2:23?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

...







"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...


Always tell the cops "If I find them before you do, you'd better have a
real strong stomach, officer, because all you're gonna find is a hand
in
a zip lock bag".


Why should you be the only one nauseated? Share it.


Our house was broken into back in the mid-80's while we were at work and
the kids were in school.
They stole a TV, VCR/camera and some other misc. stuff.


When the cops arrived and were dusting for prints and taking our
statement, one of them asked me how it felt. I told him I was bull****
and wished I had been at home when they broke in. He told me if it ever
happened again to use a baseball bat or a 2x4 cut in half on them (but
not
a gun) before I called the police. He said they wouldn't ask any
questions.


Eisboch


Bummer! Have you seen
this?http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And you are even more vulnerable if you have a "master key" system on
your door. A normal pin tumbler lock works very simply. When someone
attempts to turn the key, the core cylinder is prevented from
revolving by a series of pins that protrude from the outside cylinder
into the core cylinder. Each pin has an upper and lower section, and
the lengths will vary. The cuts on a key are designed to lift the
individual pins to a level where the separation between the upper and
lower pins lines up exactly with the intersection of the inner and
outer core.

Picking a lock is fairly easy. A small wrench inserted into the keyway
is used to sustain a moderate amount of torque on the inner cylinder
while a "pick" is inserted to raise the tumblers, one at a time, to
the point where the separation
in the pin meets the intersection of the inner and outer cylinders.
Since the tumbler holes are never drilled *exactly* straight, the
cylinder will normally shift just enough to keep the upper portion of
the pin from falling back through the intersection of the cylinders.

Always try to resist having a "master key" pin tumbler system if you
can.
Master keys work by using a greater number of sections for each
tumbler, thereby creating more opportunities for a split in the pin to
line up with the edge of the cylinder.

All these bumpers are doing is relying on the jarring impact of a
hammer, screwdriver, etc, to "bounce" the tumblers enough so that the
torque will turn the cylinder. Pretty primitive, but often effective.
I'm surprised that it took this long for the crooks to figure that one
out. :-)

Somewhat more on topic: Even notice how many $1mm boats are protected
by nothing more than a $20 padlock? And anybody that has ever been in
a marine related business very quickly realizes that most boats have a
"hideout" key that usually be found in one of 8-10 common locations
near the aft bulkhead door. It's amazing that we have as little theft
in marinas as we do.
Security gates may look impressive, but anybody with a $9.99 air
mattress can figure out how to get around the security gate at a
marina.

============

Good advice! ;-)



Dan March 14th 07 11:42 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
Tim wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:19�pm, "Don White" wrote:

Woke up this morning at 0630 and looked out the window. Voyager mini-van not
where it was at 0130hrs.
At first I thought my son had gone for an all-nighter until I saw the tell
tale broken glass. While I was on the phone to the police, my wife came back
from walking the dog to tell me she found the van around the corner with the
engine still running. �I went over and sure enough, the driver window was
smashed out with glass all over my seat. �The ignition was ripped out, and
the radio cd player gone. �Took almost an hour for the police to show up.
He did his report and I drove the van directly to the closest Chrysler
dealership (walking distance). �Still have collision/comprehensive on the
vehicle so I now have a rental while the van is made whole again.
My deductable on this is $100.00.



a thousand dollars in damages, and went half way around the block.

Well a couple weekeds ago some little locals decided to bust out the
windows on the back of my shop. 8 of them. about 800$ worth of (now)
plexiglass and labor. I'm also going to put industiral screening over
them. I hate to make the building look "Ghetto" but I don't know what
else to do.

Of course, If I caught one doing the damage, I'd be the one going to
jail.

The police just looked at the damage and shook their heads.


Do you have a security system? I'm in a "good" area but I still have
full perimeter coverage will a few motion detectors in case someone
would want to try to cut through a door rather than forcing it open. I
also have one camera that can pick up the largest area. I have $550K in
inventory right now so the ADT security system alone saves me more than
I pay for it in insurance premiums.

Dan

RJSmithers March 14th 07 11:51 PM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...


Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch



Bambi?

Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 12:00 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:42:00 -0400, Dan
wrote:


Do you have a security system? I'm in a "good" area but I still have
full perimeter coverage will a few motion detectors in case someone
would want to try to cut through a door rather than forcing it open. I
also have one camera that can pick up the largest area. I have $550K in
inventory right now so the ADT security system alone saves me more than
I pay for it in insurance premiums.


I've got the best perimeter/alarm/protection system in the world.

It's called the Skye Skippy System. Loud, noisy and extremely
effective protection.

Cheap too. :)

JR North March 15th 07 12:17 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
If it was a stock OEM unit, look for a Voyager in the 'hood w/ young
punks living in the abode. Unit look familiar? Steal it back.
JR
who once had the drivers window smashed in his '83 Audi 5000S, so the
thief could steal the ashtray. (no kidding)

Don White wrote:

Woke up this morning at 0630 and looked out the window. Voyager mini-van not
where it was at 0130hrs.
At first I thought my son had gone for an all-nighter until I saw the tell
tale broken glass. While I was on the phone to the police, my wife came back
from walking the dog to tell me she found the van around the corner with the
engine still running. I went over and sure enough, the driver window was
smashed out with glass all over my seat. The ignition was ripped out, and
the radio cd player gone. Took almost an hour for the police to show up.
He did his report and I drove the van directly to the closest Chrysler
dealership (walking distance). Still have collision/comprehensive on the
vehicle so I now have a rental while the van is made whole again.
My deductable on this is $100.00.




--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Dan March 15th 07 12:25 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:42:00 -0400, Dan
wrote:



Do you have a security system? I'm in a "good" area but I still have
full perimeter coverage will a few motion detectors in case someone
would want to try to cut through a door rather than forcing it open. I
also have one camera that can pick up the largest area. I have $550K in
inventory right now so the ADT security system alone saves me more than
I pay for it in insurance premiums.



I've got the best perimeter/alarm/protection system in the world.

It's called the Skye Skippy System. Loud, noisy and extremely
effective protection.

Cheap too. :)


OK. Without a web search, I'll say that's a...dog?

Don White March 15th 07 01:22 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
. ..

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an
alarm system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch



O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?



Funny you should mention that. We have a picture, taken back in the 80's
at a restaurant in Carmel, CA of Mrs.E. standing with O.J. Simpson (he
has his arm around her). We were just looking at it the other day.

She's the only person on the face of the earth that still thinks he is
innocent.

Eisboch

That's his biggest talent these days... charming the ladies.



Don White March 15th 07 01:25 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"JR North" wrote in message
.. .
If it was a stock OEM unit, look for a Voyager in the 'hood w/ young punks
living in the abode. Unit look familiar? Steal it back.
JR
who once had the drivers window smashed in his '83 Audi 5000S, so the
thief could steal the ashtray. (no kidding)


The radio was a replacement Pioneer unit bought for me by my son Christmas
2005. Original Mopar unit had just gone south that fall.



Jack Redington March 15th 07 01:47 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
. ..



Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an
alarm system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch



O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?




Funny you should mention that. We have a picture, taken back in the 80's at
a restaurant in Carmel, CA of Mrs.E. standing with O.J. Simpson (he has his
arm around her). We were just looking at it the other day.

She's the only person on the face of the earth that still thinks he is
innocent.

Eisboch



He is Innocent, in the eyes of the law a court made that declaration.
Now did he do it, welllll.

Capt Jack R..


Tim March 15th 07 02:17 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

Jack Redington wrote:


He is Innocent, in the eyes of the law a court made that declaration.
Now did he do it, welllll.

Capt Jack R..


Innocent of "Murder?" YES! (according to the law)


Guilty of "Wrongful death"? YES! (according to the law)

I'm still trying to figure that one out.


Jack Goff March 15th 07 03:02 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:25:14 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JR North" wrote in message
. ..
If it was a stock OEM unit, look for a Voyager in the 'hood w/ young punks
living in the abode. Unit look familiar? Steal it back.
JR
who once had the drivers window smashed in his '83 Audi 5000S, so the
thief could steal the ashtray. (no kidding)


The radio was a replacement Pioneer unit bought for me by my son Christmas
2005. Original Mopar unit had just gone south that fall.


Joe will tell you that the Mopar unit died because it was made on the
same manufacturing equipment that everyone else uses, but "Mopar" sets
the equipment to use "looser" standards.

Calif Bill March 15th 07 03:57 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
. ..

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...


Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an
alarm system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch



O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?



Funny you should mention that. We have a picture, taken back in the 80's
at a restaurant in Carmel, CA of Mrs.E. standing with O.J. Simpson (he
has his arm around her). We were just looking at it the other day.

She's the only person on the face of the earth that still thinks he is
innocent.

Eisboch


I went to City College of San Francisco with OJ. When he could not pass the
SAT with enough points, he had to go to Junior College. Me, I paid my way
through school. His first wife was the best looking woman.



Calif Bill March 15th 07 03:59 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote Would this be legal in
your province? I know you've got water....

http://www.trunkmonkey.com/content/view/44/1/

I wish.....
the rule of thumb here is, the criminal's rights are paramount. They are
poor under priviliged youths who just need a gentle guiding/helping hand.


You elected your leaders.



Calif Bill March 15th 07 04:01 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:19?pm, "Don White" wrote:

Woke up this morning at 0630 and looked out the window. Voyager mini-van
not
where it was at 0130hrs.
At first I thought my son had gone for an all-nighter until I saw the
tell
tale broken glass. While I was on the phone to the police, my wife came
back
from walking the dog to tell me she found the van around the corner with
the
engine still running. ?I went over and sure enough, the driver window was
smashed out with glass all over my seat. ?The ignition was ripped out,
and
the radio cd player gone. ?Took almost an hour for the police to show up.
He did his report and I drove the van directly to the closest Chrysler
dealership (walking distance). ?Still have collision/comprehensive on the
vehicle so I now have a rental while the van is made whole again.
My deductable on this is $100.00.



a thousand dollars in damages, and went half way around the block.

Well a couple weekeds ago some little locals decided to bust out the
windows on the back of my shop. 8 of them. about 800$ worth of (now)
plexiglass and labor. I'm also going to put industiral screening over
them. I hate to make the building look "Ghetto" but I don't know what
else to do.

Of course, If I caught one doing the damage, I'd be the one going to
jail.

The police just looked at the damage and shook their heads.


Do you have a security system? I'm in a "good" area but I still have full
perimeter coverage will a few motion detectors in case someone would want
to try to cut through a door rather than forcing it open. I also have one
camera that can pick up the largest area. I have $550K in inventory right
now so the ADT security system alone saves me more than I pay for it in
insurance premiums.

Dan


Being a former design engineer for a security products supplier, I do know
about security systems. Bad dog is still the best!



Wayne.B March 15th 07 05:18 AM

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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:36:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
...




Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an alarm
system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

===============================

One of these?

http://www.dutchguard.com/p-rex.html

All you need is something to wake up Sam Adams.


Eisboch March 15th 07 07:34 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:36:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.


===============================

One of these?

http://www.dutchguard.com/p-rex.html

All you need is something to wake up Sam Adams.


Sam has a deep, throaty bark and growl that would be a little scary to hear,
but if he got close to you he would lick you to death.

His new buddy though ... the silent type ... is a different story. Very,
very protective, especially towards Mrs.E.

http://www.eisboch.com/Fudgechair.jpg


Sam's site:

http://www.eisboch.com/sam


Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 10:16 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:25:12 -0400, Dan
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:42:00 -0400, Dan
wrote:



Do you have a security system? I'm in a "good" area but I still have
full perimeter coverage will a few motion detectors in case someone
would want to try to cut through a door rather than forcing it open. I
also have one camera that can pick up the largest area. I have $550K in
inventory right now so the ADT security system alone saves me more than
I pay for it in insurance premiums.



I've got the best perimeter/alarm/protection system in the world.

It's called the Skye Skippy System. Loud, noisy and extremely
effective protection.

Cheap too. :)


OK. Without a web search, I'll say that's a...dog?


Two dogs soon to be joined by a third.

Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 10:18 AM

Miserable %^$&%^ punks!
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:47:05 GMT, Jack Redington
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Eisboch wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
.. .



Bummer! Have you seen this?
http://webjunk.tv/archives/2007/02/n...ck_bumping.php

Just when you thought you were safe locking your doors. We have an
alarm system so we will not be changing our locks.


I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

It *is* pretty cool though and it's the first I've ever seen or heard of
one.

Eisboch


O.J. Simpson with a hunting knife?




Funny you should mention that. We have a picture, taken back in the 80's at
a restaurant in Carmel, CA of Mrs.E. standing with O.J. Simpson (he has his
arm around her). We were just looking at it the other day.

She's the only person on the face of the earth that still thinks he is
innocent.

Eisboch



He is Innocent, in the eyes of the law a court made that declaration.
Now did he do it, welllll.


He was declared not guilty which, as I understand it from attorney
friends of mine, is not the same as innocent.

Why? I have no freakin' clue - some esoteric nuance that only the
minds of attorney's can understand.

Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 10:20 AM

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On 14 Mar 2007 19:17:21 -0700, "Tim" wrote:


Jack Redington wrote:


He is Innocent, in the eyes of the law a court made that declaration.
Now did he do it, welllll.

Capt Jack R..


Innocent of "Murder?" YES! (according to the law)


Not guilty. Innocent isn't a legal concept as I understand it.

Guilty of "Wrongful death"? YES! (according to the law)


Different standard of proof between criminal and civil courts.

I'm still trying to figure that one out.


See above.

Tom Francis March 15th 07 10:22 AM

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:34:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:36:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.


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One of these?

http://www.dutchguard.com/p-rex.html

All you need is something to wake up Sam Adams.


Sam has a deep, throaty bark and growl that would be a little scary to hear,
but if he got close to you he would lick you to death.

His new buddy though ... the silent type ... is a different story. Very,
very protective, especially towards Mrs.E.

http://www.eisboch.com/Fudgechair.jpg


And that is? Can't quite figure it out.

RJSmithers March 15th 07 10:24 AM

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
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Tim wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:19?pm, "Don White" wrote:

Woke up this morning at 0630 and looked out the window. Voyager mini-van
not
where it was at 0130hrs.
At first I thought my son had gone for an all-nighter until I saw the
tell
tale broken glass. While I was on the phone to the police, my wife came
back
from walking the dog to tell me she found the van around the corner with
the
engine still running. ?I went over and sure enough, the driver window was
smashed out with glass all over my seat. ?The ignition was ripped out,
and
the radio cd player gone. ?Took almost an hour for the police to show up.
He did his report and I drove the van directly to the closest Chrysler
dealership (walking distance). ?Still have collision/comprehensive on the
vehicle so I now have a rental while the van is made whole again.
My deductable on this is $100.00.

a thousand dollars in damages, and went half way around the block.

Well a couple weekeds ago some little locals decided to bust out the
windows on the back of my shop. 8 of them. about 800$ worth of (now)
plexiglass and labor. I'm also going to put industiral screening over
them. I hate to make the building look "Ghetto" but I don't know what
else to do.

Of course, If I caught one doing the damage, I'd be the one going to
jail.

The police just looked at the damage and shook their heads.

Do you have a security system? I'm in a "good" area but I still have full
perimeter coverage will a few motion detectors in case someone would want
to try to cut through a door rather than forcing it open. I also have one
camera that can pick up the largest area. I have $550K in inventory right
now so the ADT security system alone saves me more than I pay for it in
insurance premiums.

Dan


Being a former design engineer for a security products supplier, I do know
about security systems. Bad dog is still the best!


Is "Bad Dog' a national franchise? ;)

RJSmithers March 15th 07 10:35 AM

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Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:36:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.


===============================

One of these?

http://www.dutchguard.com/p-rex.html

All you need is something to wake up Sam Adams.


Sam has a deep, throaty bark and growl that would be a little scary to hear,
but if he got close to you he would lick you to death.

His new buddy though ... the silent type ... is a different story. Very,
very protective, especially towards Mrs.E.

http://www.eisboch.com/Fudgechair.jpg


Sam's site:

http://www.eisboch.com/sam


Eisboch


Damn, your dog looks like a bigger version of our Pound Pup (best guess
is part Chow, part German Shepard, mostly mutt).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54809465@N00/421938195/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54809465@N00/421940846/

JoeSpareBedroom March 15th 07 11:17 AM

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"RJSmithers" wrote in message
. ..


Being a former design engineer for a security products supplier, I do
know about security systems. Bad dog is still the best!

Is "Bad Dog' a national franchise? ;)



Bill former adult. No understand put article before word change meaning of
word sometime. Bill clean cave now maybe come back later impersonate
president.



JoeSpareBedroom March 15th 07 11:17 AM

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"Jack Goff" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:25:14 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JR North" wrote in message
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If it was a stock OEM unit, look for a Voyager in the 'hood w/ young
punks
living in the abode. Unit look familiar? Steal it back.
JR
who once had the drivers window smashed in his '83 Audi 5000S, so the
thief could steal the ashtray. (no kidding)


The radio was a replacement Pioneer unit bought for me by my son Christmas
2005. Original Mopar unit had just gone south that fall.


Joe will tell you that the Mopar unit died because it was made on the
same manufacturing equipment that everyone else uses, but "Mopar" sets
the equipment to use "looser" standards.



With regard to machined parts, that is actually the truth. But, having
nothing better to do today, you will now dispute it. Have fun.



RJSmithers March 15th 07 11:19 AM

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"RJSmithers" wrote in message
. ..


Being a former design engineer for a security products supplier, I do
know about security systems. Bad dog is still the best!

Is "Bad Dog' a national franchise? ;)



Bill former adult. No understand put article before word change meaning of
word sometime. Bill clean cave now maybe come back later impersonate
president.


My point exactly.


Eisboch March 15th 07 11:24 AM

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"Tom Francis" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:34:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:36:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.


===============================

One of these?

http://www.dutchguard.com/p-rex.html

All you need is something to wake up Sam Adams.


Sam has a deep, throaty bark and growl that would be a little scary to
hear,
but if he got close to you he would lick you to death.

His new buddy though ... the silent type ... is a different story.
Very,
very protective, especially towards Mrs.E.

http://www.eisboch.com/Fudgechair.jpg



And that is? Can't quite figure it out.



Neither can we. He's a big son a gun though. Very friendly with me and
Mrs.E., but doesn't appreciate strangers. We didn't have him when you
were here.

Eisboch



D.Duck March 15th 07 11:33 AM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 14 Mar 2007 19:17:21 -0700, "Tim" wrote:


Jack Redington wrote:


He is Innocent, in the eyes of the law a court made that declaration.
Now did he do it, welllll.

Capt Jack R..


Innocent of "Murder?" YES! (according to the law)


Not guilty. Innocent isn't a legal concept as I understand it.

Guilty of "Wrongful death"? YES! (according to the law)


Different standard of proof between criminal and civil courts.

I'm still trying to figure that one out.


See above.


Classic jury nullification....plus what you said.



wingspan March 15th 07 11:43 AM

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On Mar 14, 7:43 am, "Don White" wrote:

That's something like what the young cop said to me. he said since my van
had a textured steering wheel it wouldn't likely yield worthwhile prints.
Guess we're too hooked on NCIS, CIS Miami etc.


Actually the texture of the steering wheel is not the biggest problem
with lifting prints. The cumulative layers of skin oil/acids that are
added by each person who drives the car make it virtually impossible
to distinguish new prints from old, because they all blend into a
blob. Same problem with doorknobs, handles, any surface that's handled
frequently. Unless, of course, you carefully clean all surfaces each
time you or anyone else touches them. Yeah, right.

Yes, we all tend to believe WAY too much of what we see on TV.


Tom Francis March 15th 07 11:48 AM

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On 15 Mar 2007 04:43:42 -0700, "wingspan"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 7:43 am, "Don White" wrote:

That's something like what the young cop said to me. he said since my van
had a textured steering wheel it wouldn't likely yield worthwhile prints.
Guess we're too hooked on NCIS, CIS Miami etc.


Actually the texture of the steering wheel is not the biggest problem
with lifting prints. The cumulative layers of skin oil/acids that are
added by each person who drives the car make it virtually impossible
to distinguish new prints from old, because they all blend into a
blob. Same problem with doorknobs, handles, any surface that's handled
frequently. Unless, of course, you carefully clean all surfaces each
time you or anyone else touches them. Yeah, right.

Yes, we all tend to believe WAY too much of what we see on TV.


Bloodhounds.

Tom Francis March 15th 07 11:52 AM

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:24:02 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Tom Francis" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:34:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:36:50 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I am not going to divulge what we have for security in this house. I
wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.


===============================

One of these?

http://www.dutchguard.com/p-rex.html

All you need is something to wake up Sam Adams.


Sam has a deep, throaty bark and growl that would be a little scary to
hear,
but if he got close to you he would lick you to death.

His new buddy though ... the silent type ... is a different story.
Very,
very protective, especially towards Mrs.E.

http://www.eisboch.com/Fudgechair.jpg



And that is? Can't quite figure it out.


Neither can we. He's a big son a gun though. Very friendly with me and
Mrs.E., but doesn't appreciate strangers. We didn't have him when you
were here.


Well, he's got some Chow in him (ears), maybe a little German Shepard
(muzzle/coloration/tail)), a little Golden Retriever (based on color)
- plus whatever else stumbled in the back door along the way. Classic
Heinz.

Looks like he's got some serious 'tude. :)

Big guy - love big dogs.

[email protected] March 15th 07 02:06 PM

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On Mar 14, 8:03 am, "Eisboch" wrote:

Our house was broken into back in the mid-80's while we were at work and the
kids were in school.

When the cops arrived and were dusting for prints and taking our statement,
one of them asked me how it felt. I told him I was bull**** and wished I
had been at home when they broke in. He told me if it ever happened again
to use a baseball bat or a 2x4 cut in half on them (but not a gun) before I
called the police. He said they wouldn't ask any questions.


A British friend told me about his break-in, about a year ago. Same
sort of losses, and the same sort of investigation. But his local
constable told him to shoot the burglar if he caught one! It seems
that many Britons have replaced their rifles with "pellet guns," and
that was the weapon the officer was talking about. The officer said
shoot the bad guy, then put a pellet in the ceiling, and then call
999.

One of the problems in my corner of reality is grafitti. The
consensus is that the only way to stop it is to smash the skull of one
of them and leave the vandal's body, holding the can of spray paint
and laying under the half-finished vandalism, to rot for a day or so.


Duke Nukem March 15th 07 03:02 PM

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On 15 Mar 2007 07:06:44 -0700, "
wrote:

One of the problems in my corner of reality is grafitti. The
consensus is that the only way to stop it is to smash the skull of one
of them and leave the vandal's body, holding the can of spray paint
and laying under the half-finished vandalism, to rot for a day or so.


My kind of solution. Although I would add that impalement would be a
much better choice.

And it would give the graffitti artists another target.


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