On 12 Mar, 14:06, jg wrote:
Jewel wrote:
Anyone tell me how a vessel equipped with lanteen sails goes about without
dropping its sail and resetting it on the other side.
Many thanks

That's lateen. They generally just have a "bad tack" with the sail
pressed against the mast, but I'm sure I have seen dhows bring the base
of the yard around behind the mast so it sets right on either tack.

But it is well known that on the "bad tack" a Sunfish will actually
point higher than on the "good tack". This may not apply to a dhow.

Owen

Owen McCall wrote:
On 12 Mar, 14:06, jg wrote:
Jewel wrote:
Anyone tell me how a vessel equipped with lanteen sails goes about without
dropping its sail and resetting it on the other side.
Many thanks
That's lateen. They generally just have a "bad tack" with the sail
pressed against the mast, but I'm sure I have seen dhows bring the base
of the yard around behind the mast so it sets right on either tack.

But it is well known that on the "bad tack" a Sunfish will actually
point higher than on the "good tack". This may not apply to a dhow.

Never seen a sunfish sail, but it makes sense they would point higher.
Whatever reason dhows might tack the yard, it's probably not performance.

toad wrote:
On 13 Mar, 19:39, Andy Champ wrote:
toad wrote:
I've just read a biography of Boudica.
While we are on the pedantry trail - two Cs, or else you can't misread
it as Boadicea.

Clue: It wasn't misread as Boadicea from an English language text.

The current English language spelling is as I wrote it. (http://
tinyurl.com/2rp6q2) Of course that's academic. Nobody knows if she
really existed. If she existed, nobody knows if she was really leader
of the rebellion or a smaller player. Nobody knows if Boudica was a
name or a title. Nobody knows how the name or title was spelt or what
it really meant. (Boudica probably translates as Victorious but nobody
knows.) Spellings of the name of the Iceni warrior Queen run into
dozens. Some completely unrecognizable as Boudica, some pretty
similar. Voudica is a similar one for instance.

In short, you can, with some credibility, spell the name/title of the
Iceni warrior Queen any way you wish. What you can't do with any
credibility is tell someone else how they should spell it.


Blimey! I'm outgunned!

I admit I haven't read the original sources. My understanding was that
Boadicea came out of a misreading of some 19th century academics
handwriting. This could easily be an urban legend - certainly Wikipedia
disagrees with me on that (and on the spelling...)

BTW Google hits count:
Boudicca 1,080,000
Boudica 260,000
Boadicea 324,000

which tends to say that "current English" is as I have it, even though
I'm wrong.

Still, this is Atrebates country, we wouldn't know about them Iceni lot...

Andy

Andy Champ wrote:
toad wrote:

On 13 Mar, 19:39, Andy Champ wrote:

toad wrote:

I've just read a biography of Boudica.

While we are on the pedantry trail - two Cs, or else you can't misread
it as Boadicea.


Clue: It wasn't misread as Boadicea from an English language text.

The current English language spelling is as I wrote it. (http://
tinyurl.com/2rp6q2) Of course that's academic. Nobody knows if she
really existed. If she existed, nobody knows if she was really leader
of the rebellion or a smaller player. Nobody knows if Boudica was a
name or a title. Nobody knows how the name or title was spelt or what
it really meant. (Boudica probably translates as Victorious but nobody
knows.) Spellings of the name of the Iceni warrior Queen run into
dozens. Some completely unrecognizable as Boudica, some pretty
similar. Voudica is a similar one for instance.

In short, you can, with some credibility, spell the name/title of the
Iceni warrior Queen any way you wish. What you can't do with any
credibility is tell someone else how they should spell it.


Blimey! I'm outgunned!

I admit I haven't read the original sources. My understanding was that
Boadicea came out of a misreading of some 19th century academics
handwriting. This could easily be an urban legend - certainly Wikipedia
disagrees with me on that (and on the spelling...)

BTW Google hits count:
Boudicca 1,080,000
Boudica 260,000
Boadicea 324,000

which tends to say that "current English" is as I have it, even though
I'm wrong.

Still, this is Atrebates country, we wouldn't know about them Iceni lot...

Andy

Wikipedia is not a reference source but a guide to possible reference
sources. Anyone can post anything there and some of what is there is not
accurate.
I am the reincarnation of Boadicea.

On 15 Mar, 20:19, Andy Champ wrote:
toad wrote:
On 13 Mar, 19:39, Andy Champ wrote:
toad wrote:
I've just read a biography of Boudica.
While we are on the pedantry trail - two Cs, or else you can't misread
it as Boadicea.

Clue: It wasn't misread as Boadicea from an English language text.
In short, you can, with some credibility, spell the name/title of the
Iceni warrior Queen any way you wish. What you can't do with any
credibility is tell someone else how they should spell it.

My understanding was that
Boadicea came out of a misreading of some 19th century academics
handwriting. This could easily be an urban legend - certainly Wikipedia
disagrees with me on that (and on the spelling...)

That's true apart from the date, but as a I said above, the mistake
was in translation _from_ ancient Latin. Hardly an indicator of modern
English.

which tends to say that "current English" is as I have it, even though
I'm wrong.

I didn't say you were wrong. _You_ were telling me _I_ was wrong.

toad wrote:

I didn't say you were wrong. _You_ were telling me _I_ was wrong.


Whoah, calm down. My knowledge of Latin is perhaps similar to Jennings:

"Latin is a language, as dead as dead can be. It killed the ancient
Romans, and now it's killing me".

Andy

"Andy Champ" wrote in message
...
toad wrote:

I didn't say you were wrong. _You_ were telling me _I_ was wrong.


Whoah, calm down. My knowledge of Latin is perhaps similar to Jennings:

"Latin is a language, as dead as dead can be. It killed the ancient
Romans, and now it's killing me".

Andy

Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

On 19 Mar, 07:36, "Duncan Heenan"
wrote:
"Andy Champ" wrote in message

...

toad wrote:

I didn't say you were wrong. _You_ were telling me _I_ was wrong.

Whoah, calm down. My knowledge of Latin is perhaps similar to Jennings:

"Latin is a language, as dead as dead can be. It killed the ancient
Romans, and now it's killing me".

Andy

Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

LOL! :-)

I used your "Pontius Pilot was taking flying lessons" at a birthday
bash the other week. V good.

On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:36:49 +0000, Duncan Heenan wrote:

Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

Assyrian? Assyrian? When I were a lad we had cuneiform tablets and Linear
B - we'd have been grateful for bloody Assyrian.

Ian

"Ian Johnston" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:36:49 +0000, Duncan Heenan wrote:

Latin, you were lucky. Why, when I were a lad we had to cope with
Assyrian.......

Assyrian? Assyrian? When I were a lad we had cuneiform tablets and Linear
B - we'd have been grateful for bloody Assyrian.

Ian

Aye! That Rosetta Stone were a right little cracker weren't she!?
I wonder what she's doing nowadays?