On Mar 13, 3:44 am, "Jewel" wrote:
Anyone tell me how a vessel equipped with lanteen sails goes about without
dropping its sail and resetting it on the other side.

As others have said, you don't need to drop the rig
to go about if you have a small boat. The big arab
dhows do drop the rig. I imagine that they try to
tack as little as possible :-)

I have a little lateen rigged boat:
http://www.geocities.com/bruce_fountain/boats/

Actually that is my daughter's boat now (I am a bit
big for it) and it has a new sail, which did in fact
cost more than the boat. I am now back to sailing a laser.

I have to say that this rig is the easiest, most
well-behaved rig I have ever used. It points pretty
well too. I highly recommend it.

Richard wrote:
Since we're being pedantic...
The question was about tacking not spelling

He only knows how to spell; can't tack worth 2 cents...

Phantman wrote:
The original Lateen rigs, of a couple thousand years ago, DID drop
their sails to tack.
snip
(except I think it was Arab pirates that invented it)

dougking888 wrote:
Why pirates & not honest traders?

Maybe they pirated the idea from the honest traders? Anyhow, the
pirates made such good use of it, the honest traders were forced to
change their shipping strategy to numerous smaller ships and shipments
rather than large ones... to spread the risk.

Anyway, the lateen was devloped along the Med coast, possibly by the
Phoenicians.

Seems to me they'd definitely have the incentive. That galley rowing
all the time's a killer. Wikopedia says the Romans introduced it, and
later developed by Byzantines and Arabs. I guess it depends on who's
history you believe. -shrug- Personally, I don't remember. Happened
before I was born. Anyhow, whoever invented it, changed the nature of
sailing and international commerce from then on.

Rick

Scotty wrote:
I thought it was 'lateen' but I wanted to double check, so I
Googled 'Lanteen Sail'. There's a lot on 'Lanteen sails' on
the web. Are they all incorrect, or is it a case of tomato /
tomatoe?

Scotty


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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in

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"Jewel" wrote in message


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Anyone tell me how a vessel equipped with lanteen sails

goes about

without dropping its sail and resetting it on the other

side.

Many thanks


They don't go at all. There is no such thing as a

lanteen sail or a

lanteen rig.

Wilbur Hubbard

Sorry - of course I meant Lateen





You can Google anything with the incorrect spelling and it will do a
bolean search for the nearest, most correct answer and include your
spelling in the title line...

I thought it was 'lateen' but I wanted to double check, so I
Googled 'Lanteen Sail'. There's a lot on 'Lanteen sails' on
the web. Are they all incorrect, or is it a case of tomato /
tomatoe?

Scotty


"Jewel" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
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"Jewel" wrote in message

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Anyone tell me how a vessel equipped with lanteen sails
goes about
without dropping its sail and resetting it on the other
side.
Many thanks


They don't go at all. There is no such thing as a
lanteen sail or a
lanteen rig.

Wilbur Hubbard
Sorry - of course I meant Lateen

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"Floatything" dont wrote in message
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Honestly, some people just don't know the correct terminology. Now we
have the pedantry over, can we get back to sailing?

If some people don't know the correct terminology then they should be
taught the correct terminology immediately, if not before and sooner than
that if possible.

Then why didn't you? Why did you find it necessary to be obtuse?

Because of one person who spelled a word incorrectly in the subject line we
have hundreds of subscribers seeing that incorrect spelling over and over
and thinking that's the way it should be. Shame on anybody who allows
something like that to slide. What's more important, sparing the feelings
of a numbskull or demonstrating correct terminology to the maundering
masses?

What's more important is being civil. Usenet is chock full of gold-plated
assholes. No point in adding yourself to the list.

Max

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"John Weiss" jrweiss98155nospamatnospamcomcastdotnospamnet wrote in

BTW, why do you choose to propagate a misspelling of "invalid"?

I choose to do so in order to make the word invalid even more invalid and
to disassociate myself as much as possible from the copy cat crowd. Monkey
see - monkey do is not for me.

Nice explanation, Neal.

Think anyone will buy it?

Max

"Quilljar" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:
tack or gybe, depending on the wind direction.

SV


"Jewel" wrote in message
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Anyone tell me how a vessel equipped with lanteen sails goes about
without dropping its sail and resetting it on the other side.
Many thanks

Having had the honour and delight of sailing a felucca on the Nile, I can
say that it is self tacking and sooo simple:-)

Is the felucca a conversion of another type of boat with a lateen rig added,
or was it designed as a sailboat? I've always thought they look as if they
should have been powered by a small inboard.

Max

Why pirates & not honest traders?

Phantman wrote:
Maybe they pirated the idea from the honest traders? Anyhow, the
pirates made such good use of it, the honest traders were forced to
change their shipping strategy to numerous smaller ships and shipments
rather than large ones... to spread the risk.


True, at some points. Piracy has followed cycles (just like most
economic activity) and there were certainly periods in antiquity when
pirates were a very strong factor in shipping. Julius Ceasar was
captured and held for ransom by pirates in his early days.


Anyway, the lateen was devloped along the Med coast, possibly by the
Phoenicians.

Seems to me they'd definitely have the incentive. That galley rowing
all the time's a killer. Wikopedia says the Romans introduced it, and
later developed by Byzantines and Arabs. I guess it depends on who's
history you believe.

I'm not going to jump into a debate that maritime historians have
argued for decades (possibly centuries). But at this point, we have a
lot of physical remains of ships from antiquity, and find different
structures (including mast steps & partners) that could have supported
a fore-n-aft rig... and others that definitely could not have. For
example, the Egyptians did a lot of coastal trading about the eastern
Med but apparently did not use the lateen until long after other
people had proven it's worth. Personally my vote is for either the
Phoenicians or the Minoans, both of whom had extensive sea trade and
were technological innovators. The Romans were great at copying other
people's inventions, but were not really a nation of inventors &
tinkerers.

-shrug- Personally, I don't remember.

Hah!
If you were an *old* old salt, you'd have been there!

... Anyhow, whoever invented it, changed the nature of
sailing and international commerce from then on.


Agreed. Sailing to windward was in invention ranking right up there
with the wheel IMHO... and more important for many centuries, in terms
of tonnage carried.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:31:41 -0400, katy
wrote:

Scotty wrote:
I thought it was 'lateen' but I wanted to double check,
so I
Googled 'Lanteen Sail'. There's a lot on 'Lanteen
sails' on
the web. Are they all incorrect, or is it a case of
tomato /
tomatoe?

You can Google anything with the incorrect spelling and
it will do a
bolean search for the nearest, most correct answer and
include your
spelling in the title line...

They call that "katyserch" (sic)


BwaHahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!