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Ok - I have my eye on an old cheap houseboat.
I KNOW it will cost more than I think - but how much? (A Lot I'm
sure!)
Besides the boat repair cost I'm having a hard time finding out the
following in Central NY:
(Know all prices are a range)
How much does it cost to bearth a boat?
By Season? Month? Week? Night? Day?
Only two things I have see are
1. $5 to $6 for day bearthing - but I really think that was for a
SeaDoo.
2. Free Day time bearthing at the Onadaga (SP) Park marinia.

How much does winter storage cost?

This is a small house boat about 25 to 30 feet.

I just Love the idea of puttereing from here to there along the Erie
and the lakes. Communting to work even. (Would need a smal 60 mph
moped too though.)
Now that Snowmobiling Season is over....

Thanks


It's "berthing", not "bearthing".

The park is on Onandaga Lake, one of the most chemically polluted bodies
of water in earth. The damage is WAY beyond the low levels of pollution
present in almost all bodies of water these days, due to a continuous
stream of crap poured into it by an electrical manufacturer over many
years. Three years ago, the NY Dep't of Environmental Conservation used
its fishing license database to send a survey to fishermen. They asked
"If we spent the money to clean up that **** hole of a lake, how likely
is it you would fish in it or let your kids swim in it". Almost 90% of
respondents said "Don't bother".



Ouch! 3 Mile Island and now Onandaga Lake?



Here's some detail about this mess:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/onondaga/ono_p1.html

The local government had the audacity to build a park at the north end of
the lake. Ridiculous.


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It's "Onondaga" not "Onandaga". You are correct - Onondaga Lake is
seriously polluted and will never compare to Skaneateles Lake -20 miles
to the southwest and one of the cleanest lakes in the world.
It is located downstream from the city of Syracuse, whose inadequate
combined sewer system has sent untreated sewage into the lake for years.
That, coupled with the Mercury that lays on the lake bottom make a
complete clean up of the lake financially if not technologically impossible.
However the sewage problems have been and are being greatly reduced. The
water quality is much improved and, no, the lake will not eat up your hull.
Onondaga lake provides beautiful views of the city. The park which you
disparage is over two miles long and provides fantastic hiking and
biking trails. It has been host to the International Rowing Regatta and
unlimited hydroplane racing, (one of the best sites in the country) and
the winter "Lights on the Lake" presentation has been enjoyed by thousands.
Because it is part of the canal system, the lake provides easy access to
navigable waters; you can go anywhere in the world!
I have taken hundreds of people boating on this lake; it is an asset
that certainly needs improvement, but is far from the "**** hole" that
you feel it is. Don't believe everything that you read; try the lake out
yourself or take an available dinner cruise.
Good luck and good boating,
Jim

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It's "berthing", not "bearthing".

The park is on Onandaga Lake, one of the most chemically polluted bodies
of water in earth. The damage is WAY beyond the low levels of pollution
present in almost all bodies of water these days, due to a continuous
stream of crap poured into it by an electrical manufacturer over many
years. Three years ago, the NY Dep't of Environmental Conservation used
its fishing license database to send a survey to fishermen. They asked
"If we spent the money to clean up that **** hole of a lake, how likely
is it you would fish in it or let your kids swim in it". Almost 90% of
respondents said "Don't bother".



Ouch! 3 Mile Island and now Onandaga Lake?




Here's some detail about this mess:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/onondaga/ono_p1.html

The local government had the audacity to build a park at the north end of
the lake. Ridiculous.


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Hey - Thanks for the info!!
I had since learned about Marine Surveyors but hadn't yet looked up
any.
I'm not sure if there are any nearer the Southern Tier where the boat
is, buty it would be worth the milage fee either of those two chage to
check itout.
As I said before if the boat last only 3 or 4 weeks then it is Much
Cheaper than renting a Canal House Boat - but that doesn't mean I
should still spend the $$$. Wish I had won that mega Millions!


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Try the lake? I know boats will float on it. But, I wouldn't want to be
splashing around in it.

Don't believe everything you read. Much of the "it's safe" information is
paid for.


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It's "Onondaga" not "Onandaga". You are correct - Onondaga Lake is
seriously polluted and will never compare to Skaneateles Lake -20 miles to
the southwest and one of the cleanest lakes in the world.
It is located downstream from the city of Syracuse, whose inadequate
combined sewer system has sent untreated sewage into the lake for years.
That, coupled with the Mercury that lays on the lake bottom make a
complete clean up of the lake financially if not technologically
impossible.
However the sewage problems have been and are being greatly reduced. The
water quality is much improved and, no, the lake will not eat up your
hull.
Onondaga lake provides beautiful views of the city. The park which you
disparage is over two miles long and provides fantastic hiking and biking
trails. It has been host to the International Rowing Regatta and unlimited
hydroplane racing, (one of the best sites in the country) and the winter
"Lights on the Lake" presentation has been enjoyed by thousands.
Because it is part of the canal system, the lake provides easy access to
navigable waters; you can go anywhere in the world!
I have taken hundreds of people boating on this lake; it is an asset that
certainly needs improvement, but is far from the "**** hole" that you
feel it is. Don't believe everything that you read; try the lake out
yourself or take an available dinner cruise.
Good luck and good boating,
Jim

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It's "berthing", not "bearthing".

The park is on Onandaga Lake, one of the most chemically polluted bodies
of water in earth. The damage is WAY beyond the low levels of pollution
present in almost all bodies of water these days, due to a continuous
stream of crap poured into it by an electrical manufacturer over many
years. Three years ago, the NY Dep't of Environmental Conservation used
its fishing license database to send a survey to fishermen. They asked
"If we spent the money to clean up that **** hole of a lake, how likely
is it you would fish in it or let your kids swim in it". Almost 90% of
respondents said "Don't bother".



Ouch! 3 Mile Island and now Onandaga Lake?




Here's some detail about this mess:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/onondaga/ono_p1.html

The local government had the audacity to build a park at the north end of
the lake. Ridiculous.



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Nor would I like to be splashing around in it, however I know many
people that have done so and have lived to tell about it.

I have rowed the lake in racing shells, driven in ski shows, worked on
its clean water committee, supplied pick-up boats for regattas and races
and participated in many events along its shores.

It is a tremendous local asset that has been badly misused. It is a
terrific lake for general boating and cruising. It isn't and most likely
will never be a mecca for water sports.

Good luck and good boating,
Jim



JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Try the lake? I know boats will float on it. But, I wouldn't want to be
splashing around in it.

Don't believe everything you read. Much of the "it's safe" information is
paid for.





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Clean water committee? 60 tons of mercury were dumped into it every year for
how many years? Hopefully, your committee only discusses how to avoid making
it worse, because there's no way in hell you're going to clean it up.


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Nor would I like to be splashing around in it, however I know many people
that have done so and have lived to tell about it.

I have rowed the lake in racing shells, driven in ski shows, worked on its
clean water committee, supplied pick-up boats for regattas and races and
participated in many events along its shores.

It is a tremendous local asset that has been badly misused. It is a
terrific lake for general boating and cruising. It isn't and most likely
will never be a mecca for water sports.

Good luck and good boating,
Jim



JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Try the lake? I know boats will float on it. But, I wouldn't want to be
splashing around in it.

Don't believe everything you read. Much of the "it's safe" information is
paid for.



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