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Ok - I have my eye on an old cheap houseboat.
I KNOW it will cost more than I think - but how much? (A Lot I'm
sure!)
Besides the boat repair cost I'm having a hard time finding out the
following in Central NY:
(Know all prices are a range)
How much does it cost to bearth a boat?
By Season? Month? Week? Night? Day?
Only two things I have see are
1. $5 to $6 for day bearthing - but I really think that was for a
SeaDoo.
2. Free Day time bearthing at the Onadaga (SP) Park marinia.

How much does winter storage cost?

This is a small house boat about 25 to 30 feet.

I just Love the idea of puttereing from here to there along the Erie
and the lakes. Communting to work even. (Would need a smal 60 mph
moped too though.)
Now that Snowmobiling Season is over....

Thanks

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Ok - I have my eye on an old cheap houseboat.
I KNOW it will cost more than I think - but how much? (A Lot I'm
sure!)
Besides the boat repair cost I'm having a hard time finding out the
following in Central NY:
(Know all prices are a range)
How much does it cost to bearth a boat?
By Season? Month? Week? Night? Day?
Only two things I have see are
1. $5 to $6 for day bearthing - but I really think that was for a
SeaDoo.
2. Free Day time bearthing at the Onadaga (SP) Park marinia.

How much does winter storage cost?

This is a small house boat about 25 to 30 feet.

I just Love the idea of puttereing from here to there along the Erie
and the lakes. Communting to work even. (Would need a smal 60 mph
moped too though.)
Now that Snowmobiling Season is over....

Thanks


It's "berthing", not "bearthing".

The park is on Onandaga Lake, one of the most chemically polluted bodies of
water in earth. The damage is WAY beyond the low levels of pollution present
in almost all bodies of water these days, due to a continuous stream of crap
poured into it by an electrical manufacturer over many years. Three years
ago, the NY Dep't of Environmental Conservation used its fishing license
database to send a survey to fishermen. They asked "If we spent the money to
clean up that **** hole of a lake, how likely is it you would fish in it or
let your kids swim in it". Almost 90% of respondents said "Don't bother".

Start your search for info he
http://www.nyscanals.gov/

And, if you want to be someplace interesting, look for info on places around
Oneida Lake. Much better choice.


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wrote in message
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Ok - I have my eye on an old cheap houseboat.
I KNOW it will cost more than I think - but how much? (A Lot I'm
sure!)
Besides the boat repair cost I'm having a hard time finding out the
following in Central NY:
(Know all prices are a range)
How much does it cost to bearth a boat?
By Season? Month? Week? Night? Day?
Only two things I have see are
1. $5 to $6 for day bearthing - but I really think that was for a
SeaDoo.
2. Free Day time bearthing at the Onadaga (SP) Park marinia.

How much does winter storage cost?

This is a small house boat about 25 to 30 feet.

I just Love the idea of puttereing from here to there along the Erie
and the lakes. Communting to work even. (Would need a smal 60 mph
moped too though.)
Now that Snowmobiling Season is over....

Thanks


By the way, the canal runs right through Oneida Lake.
http://www.oneidalake.com/


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Hey- Thanks for getting back.
So what type of Hull will hold up against Onadaga's water? Fibergalss?
Aluminum? Wood? or Kevlar? : )
I have spent A Lot of time on NYSs Erie Cannal Site: Actually it was
that site 3 or 4 years ago with its offer to win a free week's rental
of a house boat that is vexing me now!! : )
I have been unable to find any prices there though.
Will be intresting to see if the wave Locking Fees again this year.
(And raise registrations fees to compensate!: )
Did find what rthe cost of renting a houseboat for a week is though -
I would be ahead buying the one I'm looking at even if it dies after a
few weeks! WOW!
Thanks again


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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...
Ok - I have my eye on an old cheap houseboat.
I KNOW it will cost more than I think - but how much? (A Lot I'm
sure!)
Besides the boat repair cost I'm having a hard time finding out the
following in Central NY:
(Know all prices are a range)
How much does it cost to bearth a boat?
By Season? Month? Week? Night? Day?
Only two things I have see are
1. $5 to $6 for day bearthing - but I really think that was for a
SeaDoo.
2. Free Day time bearthing at the Onadaga (SP) Park marinia.

How much does winter storage cost?

This is a small house boat about 25 to 30 feet.

I just Love the idea of puttereing from here to there along the Erie
and the lakes. Communting to work even. (Would need a smal 60 mph
moped too though.)
Now that Snowmobiling Season is over....

Thanks


It's "berthing", not "bearthing".

The park is on Onandaga Lake, one of the most chemically polluted bodies
of water in earth. The damage is WAY beyond the low levels of pollution
present in almost all bodies of water these days, due to a continuous
stream of crap poured into it by an electrical manufacturer over many
years. Three years ago, the NY Dep't of Environmental Conservation used
its fishing license database to send a survey to fishermen. They asked "If
we spent the money to clean up that **** hole of a lake, how likely is it
you would fish in it or let your kids swim in it". Almost 90% of
respondents said "Don't bother".



Ouch! 3 Mile Island and now Onandaga Lake?




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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...
Ok - I have my eye on an old cheap houseboat.
I KNOW it will cost more than I think - but how much? (A Lot I'm
sure!)
Besides the boat repair cost I'm having a hard time finding out the
following in Central NY:
(Know all prices are a range)
How much does it cost to bearth a boat?
By Season? Month? Week? Night? Day?
Only two things I have see are
1. $5 to $6 for day bearthing - but I really think that was for a
SeaDoo.
2. Free Day time bearthing at the Onadaga (SP) Park marinia.

How much does winter storage cost?

This is a small house boat about 25 to 30 feet.

I just Love the idea of puttereing from here to there along the Erie
and the lakes. Communting to work even. (Would need a smal 60 mph
moped too though.)
Now that Snowmobiling Season is over....

Thanks


It's "berthing", not "bearthing".

The park is on Onandaga Lake, one of the most chemically polluted bodies
of water in earth. The damage is WAY beyond the low levels of pollution
present in almost all bodies of water these days, due to a continuous
stream of crap poured into it by an electrical manufacturer over many
years. Three years ago, the NY Dep't of Environmental Conservation used
its fishing license database to send a survey to fishermen. They asked
"If we spent the money to clean up that **** hole of a lake, how likely
is it you would fish in it or let your kids swim in it". Almost 90% of
respondents said "Don't bother".



Ouch! 3 Mile Island and now Onandaga Lake?



Here's some detail about this mess:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/onondaga/ono_p1.html

The local government had the audacity to build a park at the north end of
the lake. Ridiculous.


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Hey- Thanks for getting back.
So what type of Hull will hold up against Onadaga's water? Fibergalss?
Aluminum? Wood? or Kevlar? : )
I have spent A Lot of time on NYSs Erie Cannal Site: Actually it was
that site 3 or 4 years ago with its offer to win a free week's rental
of a house boat that is vexing me now!! : )
I have been unable to find any prices there though.
Will be intresting to see if the wave Locking Fees again this year.
(And raise registrations fees to compensate!: )
Did find what rthe cost of renting a houseboat for a week is though -
I would be ahead buying the one I'm looking at even if it dies after a
few weeks! WOW!
Thanks again




Are you serious with that question about hull type? And, are you sure we're
talking about the same lake? It's Onondaga Lake. What attracted you to this
lake?


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Nah - I was being sarcastic.
The lake where I would commute to for work and ride the moped to the
office is the one In/next to Syracuse and I did see on some web page
that it listed Free Day Docking.
I can't typ or speel.
IF I werr to do this I would probably go a few miles up the Erie to
berth for the night most nights.

Are you serious with that question about hull type? And, are you sure we're
talking about the same lake? It's Onondaga Lake. What attracted you to this
lake?



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Dock space and winter storage should be available at Cooper's Marina in
Baldwinsville (315 6357371), Sun Harbor/J&S Marina (315 622-1095), Cold
Springs Harbour (315 622-2211) and Pirates Cove Marina 315 695-3901).
There may be dock space only available at the Onondaga Lake Marina.
All of them should be able to quote you their summer season rate, based
upon the length and width of your boat and services that you require.
Winter storage will again depend on the services (Winterization, shrink
wrapping, indoor storage ) that you require.
You have mentioned "Old" and "Cheap". Nothing wrong with keeping within
your budget; but do yourself a favor: Contact a Marine Surveyor before
plunking down your money. (Ward Bury 315 461-8627 and Wayne Robinson 315
689-6854 are two that I'm familiar with)
Good luck and good boating,
Jim

wrote:
Ok - I have my eye on an old cheap houseboat.
I KNOW it will cost more than I think - but how much? (A Lot I'm
sure!)
Besides the boat repair cost I'm having a hard time finding out the
following in Central NY:
(Know all prices are a range)
How much does it cost to bearth a boat?
By Season? Month? Week? Night? Day?
Only two things I have see are
1. $5 to $6 for day bearthing - but I really think that was for a
SeaDoo.
2. Free Day time bearthing at the Onadaga (SP) Park marinia.

How much does winter storage cost?

This is a small house boat about 25 to 30 feet.

I just Love the idea of puttereing from here to there along the Erie
and the lakes. Communting to work even. (Would need a smal 60 mph
moped too though.)
Now that Snowmobiling Season is over....

Thanks

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It's "Onondaga" not "Onandaga". You are correct - Onondaga Lake is
seriously polluted and will never compare to Skaneateles Lake -20 miles
to the southwest and one of the cleanest lakes in the world.
It is located downstream from the city of Syracuse, whose inadequate
combined sewer system has sent untreated sewage into the lake for years.
That, coupled with the Mercury that lays on the lake bottom make a
complete clean up of the lake financially if not technologically impossible.
However the sewage problems have been and are being greatly reduced. The
water quality is much improved and, no, the lake will not eat up your hull.
Onondaga lake provides beautiful views of the city. The park which you
disparage is over two miles long and provides fantastic hiking and
biking trails. It has been host to the International Rowing Regatta and
unlimited hydroplane racing, (one of the best sites in the country) and
the winter "Lights on the Lake" presentation has been enjoyed by thousands.
Because it is part of the canal system, the lake provides easy access to
navigable waters; you can go anywhere in the world!
I have taken hundreds of people boating on this lake; it is an asset
that certainly needs improvement, but is far from the "**** hole" that
you feel it is. Don't believe everything that you read; try the lake out
yourself or take an available dinner cruise.
Good luck and good boating,
Jim

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It's "berthing", not "bearthing".

The park is on Onandaga Lake, one of the most chemically polluted bodies
of water in earth. The damage is WAY beyond the low levels of pollution
present in almost all bodies of water these days, due to a continuous
stream of crap poured into it by an electrical manufacturer over many
years. Three years ago, the NY Dep't of Environmental Conservation used
its fishing license database to send a survey to fishermen. They asked
"If we spent the money to clean up that **** hole of a lake, how likely
is it you would fish in it or let your kids swim in it". Almost 90% of
respondents said "Don't bother".



Ouch! 3 Mile Island and now Onandaga Lake?




Here's some detail about this mess:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/HAC/pha/onondaga/ono_p1.html

The local government had the audacity to build a park at the north end of
the lake. Ridiculous.


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