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JimH February 13th 07 12:20 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?



Reginald P. Smithers III February 13th 07 12:42 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
JimH wrote:
I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?



Wow, when did sending an email become stalking? I probably send out
10-20 emails a day, I would hate to have the police bust in my door for
"Stalking".

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.

Harry Krause February 13th 07 01:00 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
JimH wrote:
I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?




There's no shortage of qualified, licensed therapists in his area.

JimH February 13th 07 01:05 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Feb 12, 8:00 pm, Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect his
privacy.


This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious psychiatric
help.


Can you say 'Stalking'?


Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?


There's no shortage of qualified, licensed therapists in his area.


I hope he seeks the help of one for his problem with obsession of
folks at NG's.

That boy needs some serious help.


Chuck Gould February 13th 07 01:12 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Feb 12, 4:42�pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"


For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. *If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.



Wise counsel.




JimH February 13th 07 01:25 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Feb 12, 8:12 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"




For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.


Wise counsel.


Done...........some 6 months ago.

Perhaps John Herring has a reading comprehension problem.


Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 01:27 AM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42�pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. �If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.


Wise counsel.


But but...

It's funny...

JimH February 13th 07 01:30 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.


Wise counsel.


But but...

It's funny...


Actually it isn't.


JimH February 13th 07 01:34 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"


For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.



Wise counsel.
+++++++++++

Indeed it is..............and indeed it was done so over 6 months ago.

Having done so..............it is now considered stalking.

Understanding this.........let me know if you condone of such stalking
tactics.





Reginald P. Smithers III February 13th 07 01:38 AM

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JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:12 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"




For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.

Wise counsel.


Done...........some 6 months ago.

Perhaps John Herring has a reading comprehension problem.


If someone really doesn't want to read anyone's email, all he has to do
is filter that individual. You won't see or even know the email was
sent, but then, you wouldn't be able to pretend you are being "Stalked".
There is no logical reason to start a thread a new thread to express
your concern about "Stalking".

Harry was last person JimH thought was stalking him. That "Stalking"
claim lasted for years, and was injected into just about every thread in
the NG. Hopefully this claim of "Stalking" will have a much shorter
life.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 01:42 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.

But but...

It's funny...


Actually it isn't.


I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.

Calif Bill February 13th 07 02:11 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...

It's funny...


Actually it isn't.


I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


Funny, not hysterical.



JimH February 13th 07 02:20 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Feb 12, 8:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...


It's funny...


Actually it isn't.


I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


I understand...........but you will see it another way once John
Herring/JohnH/JLH, Reggie Smithers/EtAl or others decide to stalk
you. ;-)

And believe me...........it will happen someday,


JimH February 13th 07 02:21 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...

It's funny...


Actually it isn't.


I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


Sorry to see you find it hysterical.



JimH February 13th 07 02:38 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:20:30 -0500, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?


Years ago, I had one poster accuse me of "stalking" because I had my
newsreader set to email as well as post....

... to each his own...

If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.


I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.



Bob Smith February 13th 07 02:49 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.


I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.



He's taking about killfiling his e-mail address. Just as easy as killfiling
a newsgroup poster.

If he morphs, just block the IP range that his ISP uses. Can't morph through
that.



Don White February 13th 07 03:10 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:20:30 -0500, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?


Years ago, I had one poster accuse me of "stalking" because I had my
newsreader set to email as well as post....

... to each his own...

If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.


I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.

The only good thing out of all this is John has dropped all pretentions of
being a goody two-shoes sheriff concerned with improving the newsgroup.
He shows his true vocation as an instigator and faciliator without equal.



NOYB February 13th 07 03:18 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...

It's funny...


Actually it isn't.


I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


I'm laughing.



Calif Bill February 13th 07 03:45 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:20:30 -0500, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect
his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?


Years ago, I had one poster accuse me of "stalking" because I had my
newsreader set to email as well as post....

... to each his own...

If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.


I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.

The only good thing out of all this is John has dropped all pretentions of
being a goody two-shoes sheriff concerned with improving the newsgroup.
He shows his true vocation as an instigator and faciliator without equal.


You are so full of ****, you probably have brown eyes because of it.



Don White February 13th 07 03:59 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:20:30 -0500, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect
his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious
psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?


Years ago, I had one poster accuse me of "stalking" because I had my
newsreader set to email as well as post....

... to each his own...

If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.

I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.

The only good thing out of all this is John has dropped all pretentions
of being a goody two-shoes sheriff concerned with improving the
newsgroup.
He shows his true vocation as an instigator and faciliator without equal.


You are so full of ****, you probably have brown eyes because of it.

Wrong again...**** head!



Calif Bill February 13th 07 04:01 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:20:30 -0500, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect
his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious
psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?


Years ago, I had one poster accuse me of "stalking" because I had my
newsreader set to email as well as post....

... to each his own...

If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.

I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.

The only good thing out of all this is John has dropped all pretentions
of being a goody two-shoes sheriff concerned with improving the
newsgroup.
He shows his true vocation as an instigator and faciliator without
equal.


You are so full of ****, you probably have brown eyes because of it.

Wrong again...**** head!


My **** stock is not full, so not a **** head. You are full of ****,
because you can not avoid piling into a pile of **** on the newsgroup! And
you just keep absorbing more until now you are full of it.



Chuck Gould February 13th 07 06:54 AM

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On Feb 12, 5:34?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"




For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.


Wise counsel.
+++++++++++

Indeed it is..............and indeed it was done so over 6 months ago.

Having done so..............it is now considered stalking.

Understanding this.........let me know if you condone of such stalking
tactics.



No, I don't condone stalking.

However, if I had a very poor relationship with somebody- or more
accurately if one of the somebodies I have a very poor relationship
with sent me an email and I saw it in the "in" box, I might or might
not open it.

If I did open it and if it were unpleasant, I would have to blame
myself for opening it almost as much as the other party for sending
it. Sure, I suppose that if you go poking around under a skunk's tail
enough times that eventually you might find a bottle of Chanel #5 back
there- but 999,999 times out of a million you already *know* what's
going to happen when you hoist that black and white striped
dustmop....Pee-yew!

At this juncture, the only thing in evidence is your claim that JohnH
sent you a disturbing or insulting email. Opening a thread to complain
about it is a lose-lose proposition for you. There are those who might
suspect you are making this up, as you haven't revealed the nature of
the email. If you *did* reveal the nature of the email, there are
others who would come down on you for that.
Still others will think this is a silly subject that doesn't concern
anybody except the two parties involved, and should be resolved
outside the group- otherwise it's a lot like the kid who raises his
hand immediately after a grade school recess to report, "Teacher, so-
and-so called me a name on the playground!".

In an effort to cast a bad light on somebody else, we often find we
have all but painted ourselves into a corner where more fingers will
be pointed at us than the party we complain against. Therefore, I
believe Reggie's comment about resolving this outside a public
discussion forum was sage advice. If you don't want to read emails
from JohnH, don't open 'em.


Tim February 13th 07 07:36 AM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Feb 12, 10:01�pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message



You are so full of ****, you probably have brown eyes because of it.

Wrong again...**** head!


My **** stock is not full, so not a **** head. *You are full of ****,
because you can not avoid piling into a pile of **** on the newsgroup! *And
you just keep absorbing more until now you are full of it.-


My eyes are "hazel" so I suppose I'm about half a quart low....


Chuck Gould February 13th 07 07:42 AM

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On Feb 12, 11:36?pm, "Tim" wrote:
On Feb 12, 10:01?pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message


You are so full of ****, you probably have brown eyes because of it.
Wrong again...**** head!


My **** stock is not full, so not a **** head. ?You are full of ****,
because you can not avoid piling into a pile of **** on the newsgroup! ?And
you just keep absorbing more until now you are full of it.-


My eyes are "hazel" so I suppose I'm about half a quart low....


Can't be. I once made eyes at Hazel and she told me I was full of
**it.....


Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 11:15 AM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:34?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"




For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.

Wise counsel.
+++++++++++

Indeed it is..............and indeed it was done so over 6 months ago.

Having done so..............it is now considered stalking.

Understanding this.........let me know if you condone of such stalking
tactics.



No, I don't condone stalking.

However, if I had a very poor relationship with somebody- or more
accurately if one of the somebodies I have a very poor relationship
with sent me an email and I saw it in the "in" box, I might or might
not open it.

If I did open it and if it were unpleasant, I would have to blame
myself for opening it almost as much as the other party for sending
it. Sure, I suppose that if you go poking around under a skunk's tail
enough times that eventually you might find a bottle of Chanel #5 back
there- but 999,999 times out of a million you already *know* what's
going to happen when you hoist that black and white striped
dustmop....Pee-yew!

At this juncture, the only thing in evidence is your claim that JohnH
sent you a disturbing or insulting email. Opening a thread to complain
about it is a lose-lose proposition for you. There are those who might
suspect you are making this up, as you haven't revealed the nature of
the email. If you *did* reveal the nature of the email, there are
others who would come down on you for that.
Still others will think this is a silly subject that doesn't concern
anybody except the two parties involved, and should be resolved
outside the group- otherwise it's a lot like the kid who raises his
hand immediately after a grade school recess to report, "Teacher, so-
and-so called me a name on the playground!".

In an effort to cast a bad light on somebody else, we often find we
have all but painted ourselves into a corner where more fingers will
be pointed at us than the party we complain against. Therefore, I
believe Reggie's comment about resolving this outside a public
discussion forum was sage advice. If you don't want to read emails
from JohnH, don't open 'em.


Thank you Dr. Phil...er...Chuck. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 11:36 AM

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...

It's funny...
Actually it isn't.

I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


Funny, not hysterical.


Hysterically funny?

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 11:46 AM

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JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...
It's funny...
Actually it isn't.

I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


I understand...........but you will see it another way once John
Herring/JohnH/JLH, Reggie Smithers/EtAl or others decide to stalk
you. ;-)

And believe me...........it will happen someday,


Trust me - I'm not worried about it.

However, if you insist - here's my opinion on this little
contretemps.

You are both acting like two gay lovers breaking up in a gay
bar and putting on a show for all the other patrons.

There - I said it.

It is what it is.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 11:52 AM

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Bob Smith wrote:
If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.

I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.



He's taking about killfiling his e-mail address. Just as easy as killfiling
a newsgroup poster.

If he morphs, just block the IP range that his ISP uses. Can't morph through
that.


The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers could.

"It's Morphin' Time!!"

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 11:55 AM

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Tim wrote:
On Feb 12, 10:01�pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message


You are so full of ****, you probably have brown eyes because of it.
Wrong again...**** head!

My **** stock is not full, so not a **** head. �You are full of ****,
because you can not avoid piling into a pile of **** on the newsgroup! �And
you just keep absorbing more until now you are full of it.-


My eyes are "hazel" so I suppose I'm about half a quart low....


That's another thing about color vision which I just remembered.

Apparently, there is a correlation between eye color and night
vision. Folks with blue or green eyes have better night/color
vision that other colors.

Amazing huh?

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 12:13 PM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 11:36?pm, "Tim" wrote:
On Feb 12, 10:01?pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
You are so full of ****, you probably have brown eyes because of it.
Wrong again...**** head!
My **** stock is not full, so not a **** head. ?You are full of ****,
because you can not avoid piling into a pile of **** on the newsgroup! ?And
you just keep absorbing more until now you are full of it.-

My eyes are "hazel" so I suppose I'm about half a quart low....


Can't be. I once made eyes at Hazel and she told me I was full of
**it.....


Witch Hazel?

From Wikipedia:

Witch-hazel (Hamamelis) is a genus of four species of flowering plants
in the family Hamamelidaceae, with two species in North America (H.
virginiana and H. vernalis), and one each in Japan (H. japonica) and
China (H. mollis).

They are deciduous shrubs or (rarely) small trees growing to 3-8 m tall,
rarely to 12 m tall. The leaves are alternately arranged, oval, 4-16 cm
long and 3-11 cm broad, with a smooth or wavy margin. The flowers are
produced on the leafless stems in winter, each flower with four slender
strap-shaped petals 1-2 cm long, pale to dark yellow, orange, or red.
The fruit is a two-parted capsule 1 cm long, containing a single 5 mm
glossy black seed in each of the two parts; the capsule splits
explosively at maturity in the autumn about 8 months after flowering;
the seeds are ejected with sufficient force to fly for distances of up
to 10 m.

Hamamelis species are used as food plants by the larvae of some
Lepidoptera species including Feathered Thorn.

The name Witch has its origins in Middle English wiche, from the Old
English wice, meaning "pliant" or "bendable". Hazel is derived from the
use of the twigs as divining rods, just as hazel twigs were used in England.

The Persian Ironwood, a closely related tree formerly treated as
Hamamelis persica, is now given a genus of its own, as Parrotia persica,
as it differs in the flowers not having petals. Other closely allied
genera are Parrotiopsis, Fothergilla and Sycopsis (see under
Hamamelidaceae). Witch-hazels are not closely related to the hazels.

Cultivation and uses

They are popular ornamental plants, grown for their clusters of rich
yellow to orange-red flowers which begin to expand in the autumn as or
slightly before the leaves fall, and continue throughout the winter.
Numerous cultivars have been selected for use as garden shrubs, many of
them derived from the hybrid H. × intermedia Rehder (H. japonica × H.
mollis).

The bark and leaves are astringent, the extract, also referred to as
Witch Hazel, is used medicinally. Extracts from its bark and leaves are
used in aftershave lotions and lotions for treating bruises. The seeds
contain a quantity of oil and are edible.

---------------

I use Witch Hazel for bumps and bruises seeing how's I bruise
easily. Works great and I love the smell.

I got the smell in my head, because my Great Grandfather who was
still alive when I was younger, was a barber and kept cutting hair
until the day he died. I remember the smell of Witch Hazel in
his shop - it's a very pleasant memory.

Oh, yes - sorry wandered off there for a minute.

Here a song about Hazel - Bob Dylan written in 2002.

Hazel, dirty blonde hair
I wouldn't be ashamed to be seen with you anywhere
You got something I want plenty of
A little touch of your love

Hazel, stardust in your eyes
You're going somewhere mama and so am I
I'd give you the stars high above
A little touch of your love

Chorus:
No, I don't need any reminders
To show how much I really care
But it's just making me blinder and blinder
Because I'm up on a hill
And still you're not there

Chorus

Hazel, you called and I came
Now don't you make me blameless, playing games
You got something I want plenty of
A little touch of your love
You got something I want plenty of
A little touch of your love

-----------------

Now here is something I didn't know about Hazel.

----------------------

What is Hazel Coppice?

Many British broad-leaved trees including hazel can be cut down to the
stump. They re-grow producing multiple stems called poles. These poles
can be harvested. In the case of hazel the poles are harvested
approximately every 8 years and converted into a wide range of products.

Facts about Hazel Coppice

- Coppicing is the oldest form of forestry; woven hazel screens used for
fishing have been dated back to 5,000 BC.

- Much of the South East of England’s ancient semi-natural woodland has
developed under the coppice management system.

- Hazel coppice products were an indispensable part of the rural economy.

- Coppice work is labour intensive employing ten times more labour than
modern forestry systems.

- Hazel coppice is a renewable source of wood.

- There are at least 400 gifted craftsmen working in the coppiced
woodlands of Great Britain.

- Good quality hazel coppice is a viable economic crop.

- Coppicing can offer rural employment.

- Coppicing is clean, quiet and environmentally friendly.

Landscape and Wildlife Conservation

- Many species of British flora and fauna have developed under the
coppice management system and are only found in working coppice.

- Coppice woodland offers a wide range of habitats.

- Long continuity of the coppice system has enabled many species to
adapt to this system.

- Coppice maintains close links with original ancient wildwood.

- Coppice is often appreciated for its magnificent displays of wild
spring flowers, some are almost entirely restricted to ancient coppice
e.g. Solomon’s Seal and the Early Purple Orchid.

- Woodlands are an important habitat for three-quarters of our 55
species of resident butterflies and the main habitat for 16 of them. In
rotation coppice gives diverse conditions and the numerous sunny
clearings are favoured by many species.

- The orange woodland fritillaries are almost extinct in the south and
east of England except in the coppice woodlands of Hampshire.

- Pearl bordered fritillaries are lost if coppice is out of rotation for
longer than 5 years.

- Nightingales and dormice can survive in derelict coppice for longer
periods but they need large areas of suitable habitat to sustain viable
breeding populations

Here is an example of things you can do with Hazel.

http://www.coppice.org.uk/oakandhazel.htm

And isn't this interesting - There is a Hazel tree in the Celtic
Zodiac!!!

http://www.novareinna.com/constellation/hazel.html

Reginald P. Smithers III February 13th 07 12:18 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make
that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...
It's funny...
Actually it isn't.
I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


I understand...........but you will see it another way once John
Herring/JohnH/JLH, Reggie Smithers/EtAl or others decide to stalk
you. ;-)

And believe me...........it will happen someday,


Trust me - I'm not worried about it.

However, if you insist - here's my opinion on this little
contretemps.

You are both acting like two gay lovers breaking up in a gay
bar and putting on a show for all the other patrons.

There - I said it.

It is what it is.


It might not be a permanent breakup. When Harry was "Stalking" JimH,
JimH used the same line over and over again, " if he decides to stalk
you. And believe me...........it will happen someday"

Now Harry is JimH's best buddy, so it is still possible JimH will soon
want to kiss and make up with his JohnH. The only problem is the
"patrons" will have to watch the drama reenacted daily for a very long
time.

I can remember when JimH accused Chuck of "Stalking" him stated many
times that Chuck posting a link which included JimH's home address and
phone number, putting him, his wife and his daughter in personal danger.
This went on for days until someone with a server was able to retrieve
the original link, which verified Chuck's statement that no such
personal info on the web page. Immediately JimH kissed and made up with
Chuck, so there does seem to be a pattern of very vocal and public
fights, then very gushy public displays of affection.

Love is a many splendid thing.

JLH February 13th 07 12:20 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:20:30 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

I will not post the latest one unless he asks me to as I will respect his
privacy.

This is boy is indeed obsessed with me (even though I KF'd him and
previously asked him not to email me) and needs some serious psychiatric
help.

Can you say 'Stalking'?

Harry.......can your wife suggest a therapist in his area?


No, Jimmy, not stalking. Just wondering if your reading comprehension
problems caused you to refer to me as a 'non-boater' in a recent post.

You seem get things mixed up easily.

I could care less whether or not you post the email I sent you.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

JLH February 13th 07 12:22 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:11:32 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...

It's funny...

Actually it isn't.


I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


Funny, not hysterical.


Hysterically funny...?
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

JLH February 13th 07 12:22 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:36:48 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...

It's funny...
Actually it isn't.
I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


Funny, not hysterical.


Hysterically funny?


GMTA
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

JLH February 13th 07 12:23 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:46:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:42?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"

For what it is worth, it probably makes more sense if all of us used
email for silly fights, instead of cluttering up the NG. ?If JimH
doesn't want JohnH to email him, it would make more sense to make that
request via email, instead of using the NG.
Wise counsel.
But but...
It's funny...
Actually it isn't.
I'm sorry Jim, but it is hysterical.


I understand...........but you will see it another way once John
Herring/JohnH/JLH, Reggie Smithers/EtAl or others decide to stalk
you. ;-)

And believe me...........it will happen someday,


Trust me - I'm not worried about it.

However, if you insist - here's my opinion on this little
contretemps.

You are both acting like two gay lovers breaking up in a gay
bar and putting on a show for all the other patrons.

There - I said it.

It is what it is.


LOL!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

JLH February 13th 07 12:33 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:52:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Bob Smith wrote:
If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.
I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.



He's taking about killfiling his e-mail address. Just as easy as killfiling
a newsgroup poster.

If he morphs, just block the IP range that his ISP uses. Can't morph through
that.


The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers could.

"It's Morphin' Time!!"


LOL! (Again!)

This morning I woke up to find this huge thread about a one-liner I sent
Jimmy, and I've been laughing my ass off for a half hour now!

Seriously, though, one of us just may be very homophobic, so be careful
with the gay stuff!
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

JLH February 13th 07 12:39 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:13:38 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Necessary snippage

Witch-hazel (Hamamelis) is a genus of four species of flowering plants
in the family Hamamelidaceae, with two species in North America (H.
virginiana and H. vernalis), and one each in Japan (H. japonica) and
China (H. mollis).


Much more necessary snippage.

What can you tell me about trying to get a Mandevilla to last through the
winter by bringing it inside. It's in a window, and seems to be staying
alive, but will it thrive and bloom when replanted come spring? That
reminds me of one of my favorites:

Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk,
I'm a woman's man, no time to talk.
Music loud and women warm.
I've been kicked around since I was born.
And now it's all right, it's O.K.
And you may look the other way.
We can try to understand
The New York Times' effect on man.
Whether you're a brother
Or whether you're a mother,
You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Feel the city breakin'
And ev'rybody shakin'
And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
Stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
Well now, I get low and I get high
And if I can't get either I really try.
Got the wings of heaven on my shoes
I'm a dancin' man and I just can't lose.
You know it's all right, it's O.K.
I'll live to see another day.
We can try to understand
The New York Times' effect on man.
Whether you're a brother
Or whether you're a mother,
You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Feel the city breakin'
And ev'rybody shakin'
And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
Stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
Life goin' nowhere.
Somebody help me.
Somebody help me, yeah.
Life goin' nowhere.
Somebody help me, yeah.
Stayin' alive
Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk,
I'm a woman's man, no time to talk.
Music loud and women warm.
I've been kicked around since I was born.
And now it's all right, it's O.K.
And you may look the other way.
We can try to understand
The New York Times' effect on man.
Whether you're a brother
Or whether you're a mother,
You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Feel the city breakin'
And ev'rybody shakin'
And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
Stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin' alive.
Life goin' nowhere.
Somebody help me.
Somebody help me, yeah.
Life goin' nowhere.
Somebody help me, yeah.
Stayin' alive
Life goin' nowhere.
Somebody help me.
Somebody help me, yeah.
Life goin' nowhere.
Somebody help me, yeah.
Stayin' alive
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 12:46 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Love is a many splendid thing.


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are a number of different Greek words for love, as the Greek
language distinguishes how the word is used. Ancient Greek has three
distinct words for love: eros, philia, and agape. However, as with other
languages, it has been historically difficult to separate the meanings
of these words. Nonetheless, the senses in which these words were
generally used are given below.

Eros (á¼”Ï?ως érÅ?s) is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing.
The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "(romantic) love". Plato refined
his own definition. Although eros is initially felt for a person, with
contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that
person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. It should be
noted Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of
love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical
attraction". Plato also said Eros helps the soul recall knowledge of
beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth. Lovers
and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth by eros. The most famous
ancient work on the subject of eros is Plato's Symposium, which is a
discussion among the students of Socrates on the nature of eros.

Philia (φιλία philÃ*a), means friendship in modern Greek, a dispassionate
virtuous love, was a concept developed by Aristotle. It includes loyalty
to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality and
familiarity. In ancient texts, philia denoted a general type of love,
used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of
an activity, as well as between lovers.

Agapē (ἀγάπη agápē) means "love" in modern day Greek. The term s'agapo
means "I love you" in Greek. The word "agapo" is the verb "I love". In
Ancient Greek it often refers to a general affection or concern, rather
than the physical attraction suggested by "eros"; agape is used in
ancient texts to denote feelings for a good meal, one's children, and
the feelings for a spouse. The verb appears in the New Testament
describing, amongst other things, the relationship between Jesus and the
beloved disciple. Many Christian scholars have consequently argued that
the verb's use in the New Testament is simply to describe God's love for
humanity (compare with Spinoza's amor intellectualis Dei, the
intellectual love of God). In the end, "agape" is differentiated from
"eros" above. In biblical literature, its meaning and usage is
illustrated by self-sacrificing, giving love to all--both friend and
enemy. The word "agape" is not always used in the New Testament in a
positive sense. II Timothy 4:10 uses the word in a negative sense. The
Apostle Paul writes,"For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this
present world...." The word "loved" here is a form of the root word
"agape". Thus the word "agape" is not always used of a divine love or
the love of God. Generally, in the New Testament it refers to a total
commitment or self-sacrificial love for the object loved. The word seems
to contain more of a mental or intellectual element than the other Greek
words for love. It is a rational love that is not based on total
self-interest. By this a Christian is required to love (agape) someone
who is not necessarily lovely or loveable. The Christian by God's grace
and mercy is required to "love" someone that he may not necessarily like
or love in the sense of having warm fuzzy emotional feelings toward. It
is a love that acts in the best interest of the other person. The
classic biblical text on this self-sacrificial love is the well-known
biblical verse, John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his
only begotten Son...." A Christian is required to love his enemies
("...Love your enemies..." Matthew 5:44). Thus, the Christian is
required always to do good and have the best interest of his enemies in
view when he acts.

Storge (στοÏ?γή storgÄ“) means affection in modern Greek; it is natural
affection, like that felt by parents for offspring. Rarely used in
ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of
relationships within the family.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 12:49 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
JLH wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:52:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Bob Smith wrote:
If you are offended by his communications, why not just kill file him.
I have..........yet he continues with his assault via email.

He's taking about killfiling his e-mail address. Just as easy as killfiling
a newsgroup poster.

If he morphs, just block the IP range that his ISP uses. Can't morph through
that.

The Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers could.

"It's Morphin' Time!!"


LOL! (Again!)

This morning I woke up to find this huge thread about a one-liner I sent
Jimmy, and I've been laughing my ass off for a half hour now!

Seriously, though, one of us just may be very homophobic, so be careful
with the gay stuff!


The word homophobia was rarely used early in the twentieth century to
mean "fear or hatred of the male sex or humankind". In this use, the
word derived from the Latin root homo (Latin, "man" or "human") with the
Greek ending -phobia ("fear").

In its more recent usage, dating from 1969, "homophobia" derives from
the -phobia ending applied, not to the Latin root "homo", but to a
shortening of homosexual. (Here, homo comes not from the Latin for
"man", but from the Greek for homosexual.) It was used by clinical
psychologist George Weinberg, who claims to have first thought of it
while speaking at a homophile group in 1965, and was popularized by his
book Society and the Healthy Homosexual in 1971. When asked about the
meaning of the word in a 2002 interview, he said:

"Homophobia is just that: a phobia. A morbid and irrational dread which
prompts irrational behavior flight or the desire to destroy the stimulus
for the phobia and anything reminiscent of it."

A possible etymological precursor was homoerotophobia, coined by
Wainwright Churchill in Homosexual Behavior Among Males in 1967.

JLH February 13th 07 12:53 PM

OMG..........John Herring is now stalking me with emails to me
 
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:46:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Love is a many splendid thing.


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are a number of different Greek words for love, as the Greek
language distinguishes how the word is used. Ancient Greek has three
distinct words for love: eros, philia, and agape. However, as with other
languages, it has been historically difficult to separate the meanings
of these words. Nonetheless, the senses in which these words were
generally used are given below.

Eros (???? ér?s) is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing.
The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "(romantic) love". Plato refined
his own definition. Although eros is initially felt for a person, with
contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that
person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. It should be
noted Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of
love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical
attraction". Plato also said Eros helps the soul recall knowledge of
beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth. Lovers
and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth by eros. The most famous
ancient work on the subject of eros is Plato's Symposium, which is a
discussion among the students of Socrates on the nature of eros.

Philia (????? philía), means friendship in modern Greek, a dispassionate
virtuous love, was a concept developed by Aristotle. It includes loyalty
to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality and
familiarity. In ancient texts, philia denoted a general type of love,
used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of
an activity, as well as between lovers.

Agap? (????? agáp?) means "love" in modern day Greek. The term s'agapo
means "I love you" in Greek. The word "agapo" is the verb "I love". In
Ancient Greek it often refers to a general affection or concern, rather
than the physical attraction suggested by "eros"; agape is used in
ancient texts to denote feelings for a good meal, one's children, and
the feelings for a spouse. The verb appears in the New Testament
describing, amongst other things, the relationship between Jesus and the
beloved disciple. Many Christian scholars have consequently argued that
the verb's use in the New Testament is simply to describe God's love for
humanity (compare with Spinoza's amor intellectualis Dei, the
intellectual love of God). In the end, "agape" is differentiated from
"eros" above. In biblical literature, its meaning and usage is
illustrated by self-sacrificing, giving love to all--both friend and
enemy. The word "agape" is not always used in the New Testament in a
positive sense. II Timothy 4:10 uses the word in a negative sense. The
Apostle Paul writes,"For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this
present world...." The word "loved" here is a form of the root word
"agape". Thus the word "agape" is not always used of a divine love or
the love of God. Generally, in the New Testament it refers to a total
commitment or self-sacrificial love for the object loved. The word seems
to contain more of a mental or intellectual element than the other Greek
words for love. It is a rational love that is not based on total
self-interest. By this a Christian is required to love (agape) someone
who is not necessarily lovely or loveable. The Christian by God's grace
and mercy is required to "love" someone that he may not necessarily like
or love in the sense of having warm fuzzy emotional feelings toward. It
is a love that acts in the best interest of the other person. The
classic biblical text on this self-sacrificial love is the well-known
biblical verse, John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his
only begotten Son...." A Christian is required to love his enemies
("...Love your enemies..." Matthew 5:44). Thus, the Christian is
required always to do good and have the best interest of his enemies in
view when he acts.

Storge (?????? storg?) means affection in modern Greek; it is natural
affection, like that felt by parents for offspring. Rarely used in
ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of
relationships within the family.


Tom, go back to bed. Put your Wikipedia under your pillow.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H


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