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Harry Krause February 9th 07 03:39 PM

VISTA...works.
 
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.

JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 03:47 PM

VISTA...works.
 
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Harry - this probably leads indirectly to a pdf file. The source is safe.


10+ tweaks, tricks, and hacks to make Windows Vista fly
Every operating system could stand some tweaking. No matter how many
developers you throw at an OS as complicated as Windows Vista, power users
will always find something they can modify or hack to make it run faster, or
better, or just differently. Here are just a few of the Windows Vista
tweaks, tricks, and hacks we have discovered so far.

http://ct.techrepublic.com.com/click...e0-bf&s=5&fs=0



JR North February 9th 07 04:04 PM

VISTA...works.
 
Don't mean nothing.
JR

Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.



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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Harry Krause February 9th 07 04:51 PM

VISTA...works.
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Harry - this probably leads indirectly to a pdf file. The source is safe.


10+ tweaks, tricks, and hacks to make Windows Vista fly
Every operating system could stand some tweaking. No matter how many
developers you throw at an OS as complicated as Windows Vista, power users
will always find something they can modify or hack to make it run faster, or
better, or just differently. Here are just a few of the Windows Vista
tweaks, tricks, and hacks we have discovered so far.

http://ct.techrepublic.com.com/click...e0-bf&s=5&fs=0



Yeah, thanks. I'm going to go slow with these sorts of mods.

Harry Krause February 9th 07 04:52 PM

VISTA...works.
 
JR North wrote:
Don't mean nothing.
JR

Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.




What doesn't "mean nothin'."

Reginald P. Smithers III February 9th 07 05:04 PM

VISTA...works.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Did you really wonder if it would not work?


JoeSpareBedroom February 9th 07 05:16 PM

VISTA...works.
 
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Harry - this probably leads indirectly to a pdf file. The source is safe.


10+ tweaks, tricks, and hacks to make Windows Vista fly
Every operating system could stand some tweaking. No matter how many
developers you throw at an OS as complicated as Windows Vista, power
users will always find something they can modify or hack to make it run
faster, or better, or just differently. Here are just a few of the
Windows Vista tweaks, tricks, and hacks we have discovered so far.

http://ct.techrepublic.com.com/click...e0-bf&s=5&fs=0


Yeah, thanks. I'm going to go slow with these sorts of mods.



Document everything you change. On paper. Not on the same note pad the wife
uses for shopping lists.



D.Duck February 9th 07 05:17 PM

VISTA...works.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy. Doing
research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.



Harry Krause February 9th 07 05:29 PM

VISTA...works.
 
D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy. Doing
research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.



No, no raid array in this box.
The damn startup screen goes by so fast I haven't seen which BIOS is on
the boared.
DVD works fine. Hard drives are SATA. So is internal DVD.

D.Duck February 9th 07 06:57 PM

VISTA...works.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy.
Doing research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.


No, no raid array in this box.
The damn startup screen goes by so fast I haven't seen which BIOS is on
the boared.
DVD works fine. Hard drives are SATA. So is internal DVD.


Thanks.

I just can't get the RAID option to work. I'm almost to the point that the
P5B is defective.

Good luck.



JimH February 9th 07 08:16 PM

VISTA...works.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Congratulations! Do you notice any significant speed on this machine vs the
one you gave your Mom?



Harry Krause February 9th 07 08:24 PM

VISTA...works.
 
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Congratulations! Do you notice any significant speed on this machine vs the
one you gave your Mom?




Well, the new box has a faster video card. The application hard drives
are both WD Raptors, so that part should be the same. I would say the
CPU is a bit faster opening up programs. Also, the new box has more memory.

Yeah, the new machine is faster, despite VISTA. VISTA so far seems nice
and smooth to me. Only one small software program so far bombed out on
the install, a chess program. But I've just started to load up the C
drive. My D drive hasn't yet arrived.


Short Wave Sportfishing February 9th 07 09:03 PM

VISTA...works.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.


Congratulations! Do you notice any significant speed on this machine
vs the one you gave your Mom?



Well, the new box has a faster video card. The application hard drives
are both WD Raptors, so that part should be the same. I would say the
CPU is a bit faster opening up programs. Also, the new box has more memory.

Yeah, the new machine is faster, despite VISTA. VISTA so far seems nice
and smooth to me. Only one small software program so far bombed out on
the install, a chess program. But I've just started to load up the C
drive. My D drive hasn't yet arrived.


What video card did you get?

Harry Krause February 9th 07 09:14 PM

VISTA...works.
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.

Congratulations! Do you notice any significant speed on this machine
vs the one you gave your Mom?



Well, the new box has a faster video card. The application hard drives
are both WD Raptors, so that part should be the same. I would say the
CPU is a bit faster opening up programs. Also, the new box has more
memory.

Yeah, the new machine is faster, despite VISTA. VISTA so far seems
nice and smooth to me. Only one small software program so far bombed
out on the install, a chess program. But I've just started to load up
the C drive. My D drive hasn't yet arrived.


What video card did you get?



A new "mid-range" card from ATI...a XT 1950 pro existential or something
like that. It came in a blank OEM box, so until I restore my email from
my other computer, I can't be more specific. Wait...wait...don't tell
me. Radeon XT 1950 Pro or something like that. Close enough.

JR North February 9th 07 11:16 PM

VISTA...works.
 
That Vista initially 'works fine'
JR

Harry Krause wrote:

JR North wrote:

Don't mean nothing.
JR

Harry Krause wrote:

Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.





What doesn't "mean nothin'."



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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
hat.."

Short Wave Sportfishing February 10th 07 12:08 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.

Congratulations! Do you notice any significant speed on this
machine vs the one you gave your Mom?



Well, the new box has a faster video card. The application hard
drives are both WD Raptors, so that part should be the same. I would
say the CPU is a bit faster opening up programs. Also, the new box
has more memory.

Yeah, the new machine is faster, despite VISTA. VISTA so far seems
nice and smooth to me. Only one small software program so far bombed
out on the install, a chess program. But I've just started to load up
the C drive. My D drive hasn't yet arrived.


What video card did you get?



A new "mid-range" card from ATI...a XT 1950 pro existential or something
like that. It came in a blank OEM box, so until I restore my email from
my other computer, I can't be more specific. Wait...wait...don't tell
me. Radeon XT 1950 Pro or something like that. Close enough.


How much on board memory?

Harry Krause February 10th 07 01:07 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.

Congratulations! Do you notice any significant speed on this
machine vs the one you gave your Mom?



Well, the new box has a faster video card. The application hard
drives are both WD Raptors, so that part should be the same. I would
say the CPU is a bit faster opening up programs. Also, the new box
has more memory.

Yeah, the new machine is faster, despite VISTA. VISTA so far seems
nice and smooth to me. Only one small software program so far bombed
out on the install, a chess program. But I've just started to load
up the C drive. My D drive hasn't yet arrived.

What video card did you get?



A new "mid-range" card from ATI...a XT 1950 pro existential or
something like that. It came in a blank OEM box, so until I restore my
email from my other computer, I can't be more specific.
Wait...wait...don't tell me. Radeon XT 1950 Pro or something like
that. Close enough.


How much on board memory?



256. I'm not a "big time computer gamer." It's more than good enough for
the photo and newsletter work I do.


Dan February 10th 07 01:34 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


The "first kid on the block" syndrome manifests itself again in a
boating group.

Maybe JLH is right...what a neat guy!

David Wallace February 10th 07 02:27 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Ok...to make this the slightest bit relevant to boating:

My grandfather taught me an adage: A fool and his money are soon departed.
Asta la Vista. Hello Kubuntu. Hey honey...I can afford the VC17 after all!

James February 10th 07 01:53 PM

VISTA...works.
 
How many drives do you have?

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.

A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel
controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy.
Doing research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.


No, no raid array in this box.
The damn startup screen goes by so fast I haven't seen which BIOS is on
the boared.
DVD works fine. Hard drives are SATA. So is internal DVD.


Thanks.

I just can't get the RAID option to work. I'm almost to the point that
the P5B is defective.

Good luck.




D.Duck February 10th 07 02:08 PM

VISTA...works.
 

"James" wrote in message
.net...
How many drives do you have?

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.

A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel
controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy.
Doing research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.

No, no raid array in this box.
The damn startup screen goes by so fast I haven't seen which BIOS is on
the boared.
DVD works fine. Hard drives are SATA. So is internal DVD.


Thanks.

I just can't get the RAID option to work. I'm almost to the point that
the P5B is defective.

Good luck.


Total of three drives. One with the OS and two identical drives I want to
use in RAID 1.



rbstern February 10th 07 04:10 PM

VISTA...works.
 
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.


Harry Krause February 10th 07 04:19 PM

VISTA...works.
 
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.



I've had some grief, minor and major, every time I moved up the Windows
ladder. I don't expect Vista to be uneventful. I haven't installed my
CANON photo printer yet, so thanks for the heads-up. I do like the
smoother interface on VISTA, though I have changed some settings so the
OS performs and looks as it did in XP.

Right now, I'm operating off one one drive, the C drive, which I usually
reserve for the OS and programs. My D drive, for all my data files,
won't be here until Tuesday.

Reginald P. Smithers III February 10th 07 04:25 PM

VISTA...works.
 
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.


It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently
using Windows XP.

D.Duck February 10th 07 04:28 PM

VISTA...works.
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.


It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP today,
but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently using
Windows XP.


Clean install?



JimH February 10th 07 04:33 PM

VISTA...works.
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"James" wrote in message
.net...
How many drives do you have?

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.

A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel
controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy.
Doing research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.

No, no raid array in this box.
The damn startup screen goes by so fast I haven't seen which BIOS is on
the boared.
DVD works fine. Hard drives are SATA. So is internal DVD.

Thanks.

I just can't get the RAID option to work. I'm almost to the point that
the P5B is defective.

Good luck.


Total of three drives. One with the OS and two identical drives I want to
use in RAID 1.


You may want to check out this forum and ask questions on the RAID setup
the http://forums.pcpitstop.com/



Short Wave Sportfishing February 10th 07 04:38 PM

VISTA...works.
 
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP today,
but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently using
Windows XP.


Clean install?


I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.

Reginald P. Smithers III February 10th 07 04:43 PM

VISTA...works.
 
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..



It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP today,
but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently using
Windows XP.


Clean install?


No, I would not do a clean install Windows Vista over keeping Windows XP
because it has very few advantages over Windows XP, and I am sure their
will be many problems with Vista over the next year. If you think about
it it took MS two years to debug the major problems and security issues
from XP. I think it took 4 years to come out with SP2. Here are some
reviews of Windows Vista:

"Windows Vista: more than five years in the making, more than 50 million
lines of code. The result? A vista slightly more inspiring than the one
over the town dump. The new slogan is: "The 'Wow' Starts Now," and
Microsoft touts new features, many filched shamelessly from Apple's
Macintosh. But as with every previous version, there's no wow here, not
even in ironic quotes. Vista is at best mildly annoying and at worst
makes you want to rush to Redmond, Wash. and rip somebody's liver out.

Vista is a fading theme park with a few new rides, lots of patched-up
old ones and bored kids in desperate need of adult supervision running
things. If I can find plenty of problems in a matter of hours, why can't
Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people )? Most likely answer: It
did--and it doesn't care."
from Forbes
--------
Windows Vista has been in consumers' hands for about a week now and,
while there haven't been a flood of problems, there have been a few
bumps along the way.

Among the initial gripes are trouble installing or activating copies, as
well as reports that the operating system isn't working quite as they
expected. In addition to the sporadic reports of bugs and upgrade
issues, other people are discovering that hardware and software
incompatibilities are impeding their path to Vista.
from CNET

Experts: Don't upgrade to VIsta
One thing I love about DEMO is that I get to rub elbows with some of the
world's savviest tech press. All the product guys are here. Hanging out
in the lobby with them yesterday, I asked the question that is on the
mind of 90 percent of all computer users:

"Should I upgrade my computer to VISTA?"

I received a resounding "NO!" in three-part harmony.

It seems that Vista is great if you are buying a new PC, but right now
there are all sorts of incompatabilities with legacy software, the stuff
that's already in your computer. This will get worked out, one app at a
time, over the coming months, they speculate. But chances are you should
just wait to have Vista in your next machine--and the one I have right
now works just fine, thank you very much.





rbstern February 10th 07 04:56 PM

VISTA...works.
 
On Feb 10, 11:25 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.


Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.


If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.


Think I'll wait a service pack or two.


Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.


It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently
using Windows XP.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Didn't mean to give the impression that this was an upgrade. This was
an out of the box, brand new HP with Vista pre-installed, at first
start-up plus about 4 hours when my sister hit the wall with IE 7 and
the Cannon driver.


D.Duck February 10th 07 05:19 PM

VISTA...works.
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently
using Windows XP.


Clean install?


I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.


I agree. From what I've read Vista seems allot about cutesy and "maybe"
more secure. That remains to be seen.

XP Pro does all I need.



D.Duck February 10th 07 05:33 PM

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"James" wrote in message
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How many drives do you have?

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.

A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel
controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy.
Doing research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.

No, no raid array in this box.
The damn startup screen goes by so fast I haven't seen which BIOS is
on the boared.
DVD works fine. Hard drives are SATA. So is internal DVD.

Thanks.

I just can't get the RAID option to work. I'm almost to the point that
the P5B is defective.

Good luck.


Total of three drives. One with the OS and two identical drives I want
to use in RAID 1.


You may want to check out this forum and ask questions on the RAID setup
the http://forums.pcpitstop.com/


I've posted my problem to several forums, guess one more won't hurt.

Thanks....



JoeSpareBedroom February 10th 07 06:02 PM

VISTA...works.
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently
using Windows XP.


Clean install?


I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.



Big companies usually run new stuff like this on test machines that don't
involve critical operations. The techs are some of the best contributors to
various online forums. Most other information is pure myth, including mine,
yours and Harry's. Not enough stats to say anything meaningful yet.



Short Wave Sportfishing February 10th 07 06:09 PM

VISTA...works.
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently
using Windows XP.
Clean install?

I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.


Big companies usually run new stuff like this on test machines that don't
involve critical operations. The techs are some of the best contributors to
various online forums. Most other information is pure myth, including mine,
yours and Harry's. Not enough stats to say anything meaningful yet.


No offense Doug, but I'll take the word of a experienced,
cross platform IT/IS manager who is responsible for keeping
three major medical centers running for thirty years.

If he says it's has backwards compatibility problems and
serious device flaws - he's right.

JoeSpareBedroom February 10th 07 06:12 PM

VISTA...works.
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during
her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing
apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research
legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as
you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer
currently using Windows XP.
Clean install?
I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.


Big companies usually run new stuff like this on test machines that don't
involve critical operations. The techs are some of the best contributors
to various online forums. Most other information is pure myth, including
mine, yours and Harry's. Not enough stats to say anything meaningful yet.


No offense Doug, but I'll take the word of a experienced,
cross platform IT/IS manager who is responsible for keeping
three major medical centers running for thirty years.

If he says it's has backwards compatibility problems and
serious device flaws - he's right.


I guess he fits the category I was talking about. Admittedly, there are lots
of people in smaller shops who do the same thing.



thunder February 10th 07 10:34 PM

VISTA...works.
 
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?


From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/

Short Wave Sportfishing February 10th 07 10:51 PM

VISTA...works.
 
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?


From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/


It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)

Harry Krause February 10th 07 10:56 PM

VISTA...works.
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?


From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may
be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html



The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/


It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)



I believe it was Xerox, actually.

I'm more a fan of apple than I used to be, what with the iPOD and the
new $1000 laptops that are pretty damned nice and run both apple's OS
and Windoze XP.

JLH February 10th 07 10:57 PM

VISTA...works.
 
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:19:59 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.


Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.



I've had some grief, minor and major, every time I moved up the Windows
ladder. I don't expect Vista to be uneventful. I haven't installed my
CANON photo printer yet, so thanks for the heads-up. I do like the
smoother interface on VISTA, though I have changed some settings so the
OS performs and looks as it did in XP.

Right now, I'm operating off one one drive, the C drive, which I usually
reserve for the OS and programs. My D drive, for all my data files,
won't be here until Tuesday.


Here's an interesting Vista story:

Microsoft's own antivirus fails to secure Vista


Both Live OneCare and McAfee's enterprise software fall short on virus
protection, according to tests

Microsoft's own antivirus software, Live OneCare, is unable to fully
protect Vista users against viruses; and one of McAfee's antivirus software
packages also fails to protect users, according to independent research
released on Friday.


Story URL: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1...9285807,00.htm
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Calif Bill February 11th 07 12:33 AM

VISTA...works.
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?


From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be
a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/


It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)


Ripped off from Xerox PARC.



Reginald P. Smithers III February 11th 07 12:36 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?
From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be
a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/

It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)


Ripped off from Xerox PARC.


I think you mean given to Apple by short sighted Xerox.


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