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BAR February 11th 07 12:45 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?
From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade
version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there
may be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your
upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html



The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/

It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)


Ripped off from Xerox PARC.

I think you mean given to Apple by short sighted Xerox.


I think you mean foolishly not patented by Xerox along with a number of
other inventions. When you are making money hand over fist by copying
images you have a hard time seeing other technological breakthroughs.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 11th 07 12:51 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?

From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade
version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may
be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html



The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/


It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)


I believe it was Xerox, actually.


Xerox PARC only invented it - Apple made it happen.

DOWN WITH APPLE!! :)

I'm more a fan of apple than I used to be, what with the iPOD and the
new $1000 laptops that are pretty damned nice and run both apple's OS
and Windoze XP.


I received an iPOD for Christmas - my kids wanted me to
move into the 21st century.

I hate the Apple iTUNES software - that's one area where
MS does a much better job. Plus iTUNES is intrusive -
updating the iPOD my ass - they are spying on me.

Speaking of moving into the 21st Century, I have used
a straight razor for umpteen years - I have three of them,
all antiques and one was used by my Great Grandfather who
was a barber.

The last time the boys visited, they had left their
razors at home and refused to use my straight razors -
freakin' pansies.

So they bought me one of them fancy schmancy Gillette
"Fusion" razors. Damn thing has got a freakin' battery
in it. Used it once and went back to my straight razor.

At least I'll have a "21st Century" razor when they
visit again. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing February 11th 07 12:52 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?
From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be
a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/

It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)


Ripped off from Xerox PARC.


Can't rip something off when they gave it away.

Dumbasses. Should have kept it to themselves.

Calif Bill February 11th 07 12:55 AM

VISTA...works.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?
From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version
of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may
be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your
upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/
It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)

Ripped off from Xerox PARC.

I think you mean given to Apple by short sighted Xerox.


I think you mean foolishly not patented by Xerox along with a number of
other inventions. When you are making money hand over fist by copying
images you have a hard time seeing other technological breakthroughs.


Yup, that. Xerox was making so much money that survived incredibley bad
business decisions. Bought Shugart Assoc. at the end of life of Floppy
disks, bought a printer maker or two when they were becoming comodidy priced
with no profit.



D.Duck February 11th 07 01:09 AM

VISTA...works.
 

"JimH" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"James" wrote in message
.net...
How many drives do you have?

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.

A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel
controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy.
Doing research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.

No, no raid array in this box.
The damn startup screen goes by so fast I haven't seen which BIOS is
on the boared.
DVD works fine. Hard drives are SATA. So is internal DVD.

Thanks.

I just can't get the RAID option to work. I'm almost to the point that
the P5B is defective.

Good luck.


Total of three drives. One with the OS and two identical drives I want
to use in RAID 1.


You may want to check out this forum and ask questions on the RAID setup
the http://forums.pcpitstop.com/



Bingo! I posted to PitStop and got a reply that provided a link where I was
able to figure out the problem. You'd never install a RAID array on this
ASUS board by following the manual.

Up and running now. Now the fun begins installing all my apps.

Thanks....



Calif Bill February 11th 07 01:09 AM

VISTA...works.
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?
From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version
of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may
be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your
upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/
It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)


Ripped off from Xerox PARC.


Can't rip something off when they gave it away.

Dumbasses. Should have kept it to themselves.


Jobs was a visitor and saw it running on a machine. Was not a lot of
security in those days. When he sued M$ over the use of the GUI was a great
day when the judge asked how you could sue for patent infringment when you
did not invent the GUI.



D.Duck February 11th 07 01:14 AM

VISTA...works.
 

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?


From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/


How the hell can that cancel your WinXP license?

I don't even think M$ would do that, even it they could.



thunder February 11th 07 04:23 AM

VISTA...works.
 
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:14:43 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


How the hell can that cancel your WinXP license?

I don't even think M$ would do that, even it they could.


In the Vista EULA, upgrade version, read 13.

http://download.microsoft.com/docume...621bddb153.pdf

Mike February 12th 07 03:05 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Like I said previously, I was a beta tester, and now that the beta is over,
vista no longer resides on any of my computers.

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently
using Windows XP.


Clean install?


I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.




Mike February 18th 07 03:08 AM

VISTA...works.
 
Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast.

That's easy to get around if you need to.

--Mike

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?


From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/





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