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How many drives do you have?

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup takes a long time.

A few questions if I may.

Have you built a RAID array? Which configuration if you did.
What version BIOS?
Does your DVD burn? SATA or PATA interface? Jmicron or Intel
controller?

I have the non-wifi version of this board and it's driving me crazy.
Doing research on the web several are having problems.

Thanks.

No, no raid array in this box.
The damn startup screen goes by so fast I haven't seen which BIOS is
on the boared.
DVD works fine. Hard drives are SATA. So is internal DVD.

Thanks.

I just can't get the RAID option to work. I'm almost to the point that
the P5B is defective.

Good luck.

Total of three drives. One with the OS and two identical drives I want
to use in RAID 1.


You may want to check out this forum and ask questions on the RAID setup
the http://forums.pcpitstop.com/

I've posted my problem to several forums, guess one more won't hurt.

Thanks....

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently
using Windows XP.

Clean install?

I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.


Big companies usually run new stuff like this on test machines that don't
involve critical operations. The techs are some of the best contributors to
various online forums. Most other information is pure myth, including mine,
yours and Harry's. Not enough stats to say anything meaningful yet.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer currently
using Windows XP.
Clean install?
I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.

Big companies usually run new stuff like this on test machines that don't
involve critical operations. The techs are some of the best contributors to
various online forums. Most other information is pure myth, including mine,
yours and Harry's. Not enough stats to say anything meaningful yet.

No offense Doug, but I'll take the word of a experienced,
cross platform IT/IS manager who is responsible for keeping
three major medical centers running for thirty years.

If he says it's has backwards compatibility problems and
serious device flaws - he's right.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news
D.Duck wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time
startup
takes a long time.
Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during
her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing
apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research
legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as
you
do real work with it.

It probably is going to be hard to buy an OEM version of Windows XP
today, but I would never install Windows Vista into a computer
currently using Windows XP.
Clean install?
I know next to nothing about Vista and the new
computer has XP Pro installed, but with the upgrade
deal thing - Vista Business for free, etc.

I called my brother who does know a lot about it and
he's been running Vista on a standalone computer at
his IT shop - says at this point, MS is using the
installed customer base as a test bed - Vista is no
where near ready. Expect huge service packs in the
near future.

I think I'll wait for a while.

Big companies usually run new stuff like this on test machines that don't
involve critical operations. The techs are some of the best contributors
to various online forums. Most other information is pure myth, including
mine, yours and Harry's. Not enough stats to say anything meaningful yet.

No offense Doug, but I'll take the word of a experienced,
cross platform IT/IS manager who is responsible for keeping
three major medical centers running for thirty years.

If he says it's has backwards compatibility problems and
serious device flaws - he's right.

I guess he fits the category I was talking about. Admittedly, there are lots
of people in smaller shops who do the same thing.

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?

From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?

From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/

It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?

From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may
be a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html



The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/


It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)


I believe it was Xerox, actually.

I'm more a fan of apple than I used to be, what with the iPOD and the
new $1000 laptops that are pretty damned nice and run both apple's OS
and Windoze XP.

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:19:59 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

rbstern wrote:
On Feb 9, 10:39 am, Harry Krause wrote:
Got my new computer finished up this morning, though still waiting
delivery of storage drive. VISTA works fine. Initial first-time startup
takes a long time.

Got a "computer emergency" call from my sister last weekend. Brand
new HP something-or-other desktop with Vista. IE 7 quit working
altogether, with no meaningful error message, at some point during her
migration from the old PC. The HP support drones wanted her to start
from scratch with a reinstall of the factory CDs. She wouldn't have
any of that, since she had already invested many hours installing apps
and transferring files from the old PC.

Got her back on the 'net running Firefox. she did the research legwork
and discovered that a lot of others are having similar problems upon
installing their Canon printer driver.

If an operating system can't protect core applications from a poorly
behaved printer driver, it ain't much of an operating system.

Think I'll wait a service pack or two.

Interested to hear how Vista does for you over the coming weeks as you
do real work with it.



I've had some grief, minor and major, every time I moved up the Windows
ladder. I don't expect Vista to be uneventful. I haven't installed my
CANON photo printer yet, so thanks for the heads-up. I do like the
smoother interface on VISTA, though I have changed some settings so the
OS performs and looks as it did in XP.

Right now, I'm operating off one one drive, the C drive, which I usually
reserve for the OS and programs. My D drive, for all my data files,
won't be here until Tuesday.

Here's an interesting Vista story:

Microsoft's own antivirus fails to secure Vista


Both Live OneCare and McAfee's enterprise software fall short on virus
protection, according to tests

Microsoft's own antivirus software, Live OneCare, is unable to fully
protect Vista users against viruses; and one of McAfee's antivirus software
packages also fails to protect users, according to independent research
released on Friday.


Story URL: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1...9285807,00.htm
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John H

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?

From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be
a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/

It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)

Ripped off from Xerox PARC.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:28:23 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Clean install?
From what I'm reading, that may not be an option. The upgrade version of
Vista requires XP to reside on the disk, although I believe there may be
a
work-around. Also, if I'm not mistaken, once your register your upgrade
Vista, your XP license is toast. There's no going back.

http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Upgrade...pict25144.html


The work-around:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/31/c...de-discovered/
It should be much simpler - you know what I mean?

Another reason never to buy anything from Apple.

They started all this GUI crap. :)

Ripped off from Xerox PARC.


I think you mean given to Apple by short sighted Xerox.