"Bill Tuthill" wrote in message
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Matt Clara wrote:

What do you want to talk about? I'm interested in a discussion
of vehicles with good fuel economy that can carry a lot of gear.

I suppose you'd have to define "a lot," because a car may not be big
enough
and you need an SUV, etc., but if a car will do, I'd recommend a
Volkswagen
Passat TDI stationwagon. They're full sized cars and the TDI with manual
transmission gets upwards of fifty miles to the gallon. You can drive a
Passat from Michigan to Florida and back on a tank and a half of fuel.
The
engines will last 250,000 miles and more if treated properly. The rest of
the car will fall apart around it, but that engine'll just keep on
goin...
I have a Jetta TDI, and it's too small. The Jetta wagon would have been
a
better choice.

TDI means diesel, right? Have you experimented with biodiesel?

Currently I have a Trooper that never gets over 21 mpg. If I needed to
replace it before the 2008 Highlander Hybrid appears, I guess my choice
would be the Ford Escape hybrid or Toyota RAV4, both 29 mpg.

Jetta wagon isn't really big enough for rafting.


What about the Passat wagon--it's a full sized sedan/station wagon--?

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Excuse me if this post apears twice. I posted over an hour ago and th
first is not showing up....So again:

I think this group is approprately active for 300-400 memebers. Has
there been a loss of memebership recently?

Also, I moderate a Yahoo! group called "Signal and Image Processing."
I occasionally do a memeberhsip drive by posting to related groups
Perhaps someone in this group should do that. I'm a newbie so I think
one of the senior members should do that.

Finally, I notice that the group desciption doesn't contain the word
"kayak." If google searches use the description, then, perhaps someone
should add it.

On Feb 8, 8:19 pm, "JohnKuthe" wrote:
On Feb 8, 2:44 pm, "Fred Klingener"
wrote:

Gets real quiet here, when there's no water running.

Fred

It's real quiet here even when there is water running!

Compared to what RBP was before the Web, anyway!! :-( RBP is a mere
shell of it's former pre-WWW existence. :-(

John Kuthe...

Moby Dick wrote:

Finally, I notice that the group desciption doesn't contain the word
"kayak." If google searches use the description, then, perhaps someone
should add it.

It doesn't contain the word "kayak" because it is not exclusively about
kayaking - it is a paddling newsgroup and includes canoeists and other
paddlers.

The main reasons for it's demise over time have largely gone - Uncle
Timmy is no longer an issue (his health isn't what would be required to
post here) and the Snot Weiner seems to have trucked off for other
venues to annoy. I can't think of a reason for the paddlers to migrate
back here.

Mike

On Feb 11, 5:14 pm, Michael Daly wrote:
Moby Dick wrote:
Finally, I notice that the group desciption doesn't contain the word
"kayak." If google searches use the description, then, perhaps someone
should add it.

It doesn't contain the word "kayak" because it is not exclusively about
kayaking - it is a paddling newsgroup and includes canoeists and other
paddlers.

The main reasons for it's demise over time have largely gone - Uncle
Timmy is no longer an issue (his health isn't what would be required to
post here) and the Snot Weiner seems to have trucked off for other
venues to annoy. I can't think of a reason for the paddlers to migrate
back here.

Mike

Hi Michael. Don't forget The Burning Man. I think Njall proboably
did as much damage to r.b.p as Sponson-boy did.

I was just reading a profile of Rocky Contos in the American
Whitewater journal. It brought back memories of a vibrant and useful
r.b.p, and then it actually referred to Rockies posts of his exploits
during the halcyon years of r.b.p in the late '90s. Worth a read if
you have access to a copy.

-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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Thanks Mike. If the group is for more than kayakers (and that's fine),
then use all the dang keywords: "kayaking", "canoing", "paddling".
That way people searching for any of the above will stumble upon the
group.




On Feb 11, 3:14 pm, Michael Daly wrote:
Moby Dick wrote:
Finally, I notice that the group desciption doesn't contain the word
"kayak." If google searches use the description, then, perhaps someone
should add it.

It doesn't contain the word "kayak" because it is not exclusively about
kayaking - it is a paddling newsgroup and includes canoeists and other
paddlers.

The main reasons for it's demise over time have largely gone - Uncle
Timmy is no longer an issue (his health isn't what would be required to
post here) and the Snot Weiner seems to have trucked off for other
venues to annoy. I can't think of a reason for the paddlers to migrate
back here.

Mike

"Moby Dick" wrote in news:1171238268.607939.4800
@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Thanks Mike. If the group is for more than kayakers (and that's fine),
then use all the dang keywords: "kayaking", "canoing", "paddling".
That way people searching for any of the above will stumble upon the
group.

This group isn't a Google group or Yahoo group in the same sense that you
may be familiar with. It's a usenet newsgroup and doesn't have any
associated keywords. Usenet was around long before Google or Yahoe or any
other web site (I've been participating on Usenet since 1985). This group
has been around for well over a decade (that's how long I've been
participating and there are several here that were around long before I). I
don't want to discourage you from particpating but it's not wise to jump
into a group that's been around for a long time and dictate to those that
have been partipating in it for many years how to use the group.