On Feb 7, 12:53 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

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On Feb 7, 12:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze,
with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This
week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff
from
Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just
like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees.
Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

Only living animals are subject to wind chill.

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm

Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-)

"JimH" wrote in message
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Only living animals are subject to wind chill.

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm

Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-)



Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?


Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill.
It's called the latent heat of evaporation.

Eisboch

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?


Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill.
It's called the latent heat of evaporation.

Eisboch


OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the
effectiveness of the windshield liquid.

On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill.
It's called the latent heat of evaporation.

Eisboch

OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the
effectiveness of the windshield liquid.

You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you
initially said the car was standing still.

Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it
will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill
factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-)

"JimH" wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill.
It's called the latent heat of evaporation.

Eisboch

OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the
effectiveness of the windshield liquid.

You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you
initially said the car was standing still.

Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it
will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill
factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-)


I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the
surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit
in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after
hitting the windshield at 50 mph?

On Feb 7, 6:06 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

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On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

m...

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill.
It's called the latent heat of evaporation.

Eisboch

OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the
effectiveness of the windshield liquid.

You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you
initially said the car was standing still.

Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it
will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill
factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-)

I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the
surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit
in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after
hitting the windshield at 50 mph?

It is OK to be wrong Doug. I will not get into the ****ing contest
you want this to turn into. ;-)

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...

Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to
moving
air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill.
It's called the latent heat of evaporation.

Eisboch

OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the
effectiveness of the windshield liquid.

You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you
initially said the car was standing still.

Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it
will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill
factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-)


I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the
surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can
sit in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second
after hitting the windshield at 50 mph?

My Buick Lucerne has a windshield washer fluid warmer upper. Came on the
car when I bought it new. Can't tell you how effective it is, I live in
Florida. Maybe I'll take a trip up North to test it. Nah, forget that.

Why the hell they put options like that on cars destined for Florida is
beyond me.

Forget that too, I know why.

As for the heated seats, that's another story. I do occasionally use them
and of course the cooled seats are very nice in the loooong summer.

On Feb 7, 4:29 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

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Only living animals are subject to wind chill.

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm

Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-)

Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

Depends on the liquid.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 4:29 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

ups.com...

Only living animals are subject to wind chill.

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm

Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-)

Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again:

Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving
air,
will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid?

Depends on the liquid.



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