On 7 Feb 2007 09:10:19 -0800, "Short Wave Sportfishing"
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And you know that the second you sell the Navigator, you'll
be looking for another boat.

Maybe a bigger Grand Banks... :-)

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JLH" wrote in message
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How does the Sprinter do on these cold mornings?

It started fine the other day at 14 degrees after sitting without running
for about a month.
I haven't tried it on the really cold days. I don't like to start
engines unless I am going to drive them long enough to warm up to
operating temp.

My experience has been that diesels are fine until the temp gets below
zero. The major fuel suppliers modify the fuel formulations for "winter"
and "summer" blends that adds anti-gelling properties for cold weather.
Now, if you lived in Alaska or North Dakota, that would be a different
story where the use of block heaters and additional fuel conditioners is
required.

Shortwave has a point though. Using a block heater here in New England
would surely help with the engine warm up time. Mine takes about 8 miles
of driving before the engine temperature gauge even starts to move.
Fortunately, my truck is equipped with heated seats, so it is tolerable.
Also, although not "hot" ... the heater does start to throw some warm air
within the first couple of miles, even if the gauge hasn't moved.

Eisboch


I usually have an extension cord available to plug in my block heater and
battery blanket.
In temperatures below 10F it makes a big difference. The battery is near
full potential and the engine turns over easily (reducing wear & tear).
The window defroster and interior heater work quicker too.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Feb 7, 10:55 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JLH" wrote in message

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How does the Sprinter do on these cold mornings?

It started fine the other day at 14 degrees after sitting without
running
for about a month.
I haven't tried it on the really cold days. I don't like to start
engines
unless I am going to drive them long enough to warm up to operating
temp.

My experience has been that diesels are fine until the temp gets below
zero.
The major fuel suppliers modify the fuel formulations for "winter" and
"summer" blends that adds anti-gelling properties for cold weather.
Now, if
you lived in Alaska or North Dakota, that would be a different story
where
the use of block heaters and additional fuel conditioners is required.

My experience with the 7.3 is different for some reason. A couple
of winters ago, I had a gel problem when the temps stayed below
10 for a few days - I didn't use the block heater and everything
gummed up. And it takes time to thaw the damn thing out.

That and I was using the Lucas diesel conditionar and that stuff
sucks big time. When I switched to Diesel Dr., things improved
and when I changed that to the Ford conditioner, no more problems.

Shortwave has a point though. Using a block heater here in New England
would surely help with the engine warm up time. Mine takes about 8
miles of
driving before the engine temperature gauge even starts to move.
Fortunately, my truck is equipped with heated seats, so it is tolerable.
Also, although not "hot" ... the heater does start to throw some warm
air
within the first couple of miles, even if the gauge hasn't moved.

Greatest invention since sliced cheese.


Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This week,
frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from
Armorall or whoever makes it.

All the windshield washer detergent they sell here is rated at -40.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Know that you mean. I just received an offer on the Halman - I
really want to sail it, but I just don't have the freakin' time.

snip..


Selling the Halman 20?
Don't let it go too cheap...
http://sailquest.com/market/models/halman.htm

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On 7 Feb 2007 09:10:19 -0800, "Short Wave Sportfishing"
wrote:

And you know that the second you sell the Navigator, you'll
be looking for another boat.

Maybe a bigger Grand Banks... :-)



There's no question that the Navigator at 52' LOA and with a 15' beam is
more spacious than the GB at 36' with what, a 13' beam?

Unless I decide to sell it, my slip will accommodate up to a 55' foot boat.

Hmmmmm......

Eisboch

"Don White" wrote in message
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All the windshield washer detergent they sell here is rated at -40.


C and F.

Eisboch

On Feb 7, 11:16 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message

news


Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire
tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other
crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This week,
frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from
Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never noticed
this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just like
the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees. Maybe
you got some of the wrong stuff.

Been there - done that.

I use the pink stuff now.

On Feb 7, 11:25 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some
other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s.
This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink
stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks
just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32
degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

I refuse to enter into a "wind chill" debate about non-living objects.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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ROTFL!!!

On Feb 7, 11:28 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with
the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and
never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the
entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some
other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s.
This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink
stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it.

I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never
noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks
just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32
degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff.

Eisboch

The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again,
this is while standing still. No wind chill.

I refuse to enter into a "wind chill" debate about non-living objects.

Eisboch

I agree. The label on the blue crap disagrees, but who cares? Whoever mixed
the stuff was lying. Maybe I'll dump a bottle of 151 rum into the tank.- Hide quoted text -

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There you go. Add diaquiri mix and you can drain it in the
spring and drink it!!

On Feb 7, 11:21 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in oglegroups.com...

And you know that the second you sell the Navigator, you'll
be looking for another boat.

Come on - admit it. :)

We shall see. Right now the plan is to use the GB for at least a season and
see how it fits.

I also have to decide what to do with the Scout that is sitting out in the
yard. I keep thinking I'll use it ... but never do. It's a shame .. only
20 hours or so on the engine. Maybe the best thing is to clean it up, have
it serviced and sell it.

Contrary to popular belief, he with the most toys doesn't win .... he just
ends up with a yard full of unused toys.

I'm still in the most toys camp - it's very satisfying.

However, this might be a good summer to use the Scout.
Drop me a line - I'm game to go anytime you want. I'll
even buy the gas. :)