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On Feb 7, 2:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Feb 7, 1:14 pm, "Don White" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in oglegroups.com... Know that you mean. I just received an offer on the Halman - I really want to sail it, but I just don't have the freakin' time. snip.. Selling the Halman 20? Don't let it go too cheap...http://sailquest.com/market/models/halman.htm Hell, I'd let it go for $4K if it went to a good home. mmmm.that's about $4741.00 CDN today. If I had a truck strong enough to tow it.............. and was willing to join a yacht club...... Tow it? Oh yeah - sorry. Well you can always rent a bigger truck to tow it for the two times a year you needed one. And I know you'd take care of it. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "r_d" wrote in message . com... "Eisboch" wrote in message . .. The '05 (maybe other years as well) PSD block heater was an "option". Turns out that the actual heater is installed (comes from International that way) but Ford does not supply the wiring harness and it is what is constitutes the "option". When I was having early problems with the truck I asked about the optional wiring harness and they gave me one free. I have never got around to installing it. I got lucky. I got my truck in NY and the dealer ordered the cord. Unfortunately, the 6.4 is going to be the same. Below I have posted a link that gives the instruction to install and route the block heater wire for the 6.0. http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-05-20.php Mark Hey, thanks for the link. Now, if it ever gets warm enough to go outside and play under the hood, I'll install it. Of course, then I won't need it. :-) Eisboch What about aftermarket block heaters all the type that replace the dipstick? Don't tell me google is my friend. I want you to do the work for me. :-) |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:27:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
There's no question that the Navigator at 52' LOA and with a 15' beam is more spacious than the GB at 36' with what, a 13' beam? Unless I decide to sell it, my slip will accommodate up to a 55' foot boat. Hmmmmm...... What would you look for that you don't have in the Navigator? If you really want a long range, go anywhere kind of boat, take a look at the Nordhavns. Pricey, but first rate in every respect: http://www.nordhavn.com/55/overview.php4 What the heck, we only go around once, or so they say. I'd get one if I could afford it. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:27:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: There's no question that the Navigator at 52' LOA and with a 15' beam is more spacious than the GB at 36' with what, a 13' beam? Unless I decide to sell it, my slip will accommodate up to a 55' foot boat. Hmmmmm...... What would you look for that you don't have in the Navigator? If you really want a long range, go anywhere kind of boat, take a look at the Nordhavns. Pricey, but first rate in every respect: http://www.nordhavn.com/55/overview.php4 What the heck, we only go around once, or so they say. I'd get one if I could afford it. Nice boats, weird web site. For the money they get for a boat like that, you'd think they could come with something better than "Coming Soon" when you click for details on their 86. :-) |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... If you really want a long range, go anywhere kind of boat, take a look at the Nordhavns. Pricey, but first rate in every respect: http://www.nordhavn.com/55/overview.php4 What the heck, we only go around once, or so they say. I'd get one if I could afford it. Funny you should mention them. There was one on the hard with a "For Sale" sign on it about 3 years ago at the marina I am at. I often walked around it, studying it and feeling that familiar urge starting to arise. Fortunately for the wallet, the GB came along, Mrs.E. fell in love with it at first glance and the rest is history. I forget what they were asking, but it was out of my league. Eisboch |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... What would you look for that you don't have in the Navigator? If you really want a long range, go anywhere kind of boat, take a look at the Nordhavns. Pricey, but first rate in every respect: http://www.nordhavn.com/55/overview.php4 If I had long range cruising in our immediate plans, I'd probably keep the Navigator. Although not as fuel efficient as a trawler, it's not that bad (about 25-27 gals/hour at 19 kts), handles well and is a very comfortable boat. Unfortunately, with the current activities at the home front plus providing increasing care for elderly parents, I don't see any serious boating travel for a while. Maybe in a few years. Meanwhile, we will do local jaunts with the GB. Although certainly capable of long-range cruising, it is a bit too small for extended living aboard, plus I still like the added security of twins. Eisboch |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... News here says lots of school bus operators are having problems with fuel gelling in the fuel filters because of low-sulphur fuel. They can't get enough kerosene for some reason. What's in the big containers of diesel additives I've seen for sale at truck stops? Kerosene? Other? Not suitable for educational (school bus) use? The D&C had an article on this, Seems the State requires a new additive to lower Sulpher emissions. Some districts hadn't tried it out beforehand and some others, inadvertently, added to already treated fuel, see below: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/...p_product=RDCB |
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"tak" wrote in message
... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... News here says lots of school bus operators are having problems with fuel gelling in the fuel filters because of low-sulphur fuel. They can't get enough kerosene for some reason. What's in the big containers of diesel additives I've seen for sale at truck stops? Kerosene? Other? Not suitable for educational (school bus) use? The D&C had an article on this, Seems the State requires a new additive to lower Sulpher emissions. Some districts hadn't tried it out beforehand and some others, inadvertently, added to already treated fuel, see below: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/...p_product=RDCB That resulted in a nothing page. What was the title of the article? Maybe I can search on that. |
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On Feb 7, 12:53 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 7, 12:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Here's something to invent: Windshield washer that doesn't freeze, with the vehicle just sitting in the driveway. I've lived here 25 years and never had this problem until now. 3 weeks back, I had to drain the entire tank of whatever crap the mechanic put in it. Went & bought some other crap, which worked for a day when the temp was in the high 20s. This week, frozen again. Two different brands! Next, the fancy pink stuff from Armorall or whoever makes it. I was just reading about this in another NG. Apparently ( I never noticed this ) there is a "summer" windshield washer fluid that looks just like the winter stuff (same blue color) but is only good to 32 degrees. Maybe you got some of the wrong stuff. Eisboch The latest bottle says it's good to -25 F. !!! What a crock. And again, this is while standing still. No wind chill. Only living animals are subject to wind chill. Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-) |
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"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com... Only living animals are subject to wind chill. Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-) Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
. .. "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. |
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On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message . .. "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you initially said the car was standing still. Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-) |
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"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com... On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message . .. "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you initially said the car was standing still. Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-) I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after hitting the windshield at 50 mph? |
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On Feb 7, 6:06 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you initially said the car was standing still. Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-) I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after hitting the windshield at 50 mph? It is OK to be wrong Doug. I will not get into the ****ing contest you want this to turn into. ;-) |
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"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com... On Feb 7, 6:06 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you initially said the car was standing still. Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-) I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after hitting the windshield at 50 mph? It is OK to be wrong Doug. I will not get into the ****ing contest you want this to turn into. ;-) I'm wrong about the terminology, but the effect still sounds similar. If the ambient temp doesn't affect the liquid, but adding wind DOES, then...ya know. What's your explanation? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message . .. "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you initially said the car was standing still. Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-) I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after hitting the windshield at 50 mph? My Buick Lucerne has a windshield washer fluid warmer upper. Came on the car when I bought it new. Can't tell you how effective it is, I live in Florida. Maybe I'll take a trip up North to test it. Nah, forget that. Why the hell they put options like that on cars destined for Florida is beyond me. Forget that too, I know why. As for the heated seats, that's another story. I do occasionally use them and of course the cooled seats are very nice in the loooong summer. |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message . .. "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you initially said the car was standing still. Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-) I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after hitting the windshield at 50 mph? My Buick Lucerne has a windshield washer fluid warmer upper. Came on the car when I bought it new. Can't tell you how effective it is, I live in Florida. Maybe I'll take a trip up North to test it. Nah, forget that. Why the hell they put options like that on cars destined for Florida is beyond me. Forget that too, I know why. As for the heated seats, that's another story. I do occasionally use them and of course the cooled seats are very nice in the loooong summer. My wife has heated seats in her Highlander. They have come in handy, including today when she drove me to a doctors appointment. ;-) |
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On Feb 7, 6:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 7, 6:06 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message groups.com... On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you initially said the car was standing still. Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-) I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after hitting the windshield at 50 mph? It is OK to be wrong Doug. I will not get into the ****ing contest you want this to turn into. ;-) I'm wrong about the terminology, but the effect still sounds similar. If the ambient temp doesn't affect the liquid, but adding wind DOES, then...ya know. What's your explanation? Ambient temperature has everything to do with bringing the liquid down to it's level........on a time and exposure basis. Liquids exposed to winds during that exposure only speed up the process. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:44 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: News here says lots of school bus operators are having problems with fuel gelling in the fuel filters because of low-sulphur fuel. They can't get enough kerosene for some reason. What's in the big containers of diesel additives I've seen for sale at truck stops? Kerosene? Other? Not suitable for educational (school bus) use? Do they use block heaters? Additives? Kerosene should be added at the fuel distribution point - it is here. They may not have the mix right - around here, it's about 18/22%. This is the first year I haven't had a gel problem - I'm using the Ford diesel fuel additive as opposed to the Lucas additive I used to use in the winter. Seems to work better. When I used to manage a fleet of buses we used some anti-gelling agent called Aronol. It worked great. We ordered it in 55 gallon drums. Fredo |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message . .. "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On 7 Feb 2007 09:10:19 -0800, "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote: And you know that the second you sell the Navigator, you'll be looking for another boat. Maybe a bigger Grand Banks... :-) There's no question that the Navigator at 52' LOA and with a 15' beam is more spacious than the GB at 36' with what, a 13' beam? Unless I decide to sell it, my slip will accommodate up to a 55' foot boat. Hmmmmm...... Eisboch Having to maintain 3 boats, including 2 the size of the Navigator and GB has to be a drain not only on your wallet but also your time. Having said that it has to be drag to consider selling the Navigator. As others suggested, why not sell the GB and keep the Navigator and the Scout? A small boat is a great option to consider when not wanting/needing to take out the big one! |
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On Feb 7, 4:29 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message ups.com... Only living animals are subject to wind chill. Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-) Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Depends on the liquid. |
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"JimH" wrote in message ... As others suggested, why not sell the GB and keep the Navigator and the Scout? A small boat is a great option to consider when not wanting/needing to take out the big one! You don't understand. The GB is Mrs.E's "baby". She has invested quite a bit of time and bucks having it renovated, updated and prepared for use this summer. (Right now it's having new air conditioning systems and navigation electronics installed). Selling it is out of the question. Besides, quite frankly, I kinda like it. It's a different type of boating experience than that I've been accustomed to over the years. I am looking forward to using it more. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message . .. "JimH" wrote in message ... As others suggested, why not sell the GB and keep the Navigator and the Scout? A small boat is a great option to consider when not wanting/needing to take out the big one! You don't understand. The GB is Mrs.E's "baby". She has invested quite a bit of time and bucks having it renovated, updated and prepared for use this summer. (Right now it's having new air conditioning systems and navigation electronics installed). Selling it is out of the question. Besides, quite frankly, I kinda like it. It's a different type of boating experience than that I've been accustomed to over the years. I am looking forward to using it more. Eisboch Wives.............women............10-4. ;-) |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "tak" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... News here says lots of school bus operators are having problems with fuel gelling in the fuel filters because of low-sulphur fuel. They can't get enough kerosene for some reason. What's in the big containers of diesel additives I've seen for sale at truck stops? Kerosene? Other? Not suitable for educational (school bus) use? The D&C had an article on this, Seems the State requires a new additive to lower Sulpher emissions. Some districts hadn't tried it out beforehand and some others, inadvertently, added to already treated fuel, see below: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/...p_product=RDCB That resulted in a nothing page. What was the title of the article? Maybe I can search on that. Hmmm-- well go to the D&C Home page, scroll to the bottom of the left hand side "archives" click, type in "school bus problems" it should be the first story in the stack. Enjoy Tom |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:54:34 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
She has invested quite a bit of time and bucks having it renovated, updated and prepared for use this summer. Be prepared to do that again in a year or two. Ask the man who owns one (or is owned). |
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What about aftermarket block heaters all the type that replace the
dipstick? Don't tell me google is my friend. I want you to do the work for me. :-) For what engine? All of the international diesels come with the heater installed from the factory (05 and newer ford trucks do not come with the cord but they can be had from International or eBay). I would imagine the GM and Cummins engines also come equip. If you are sure yours doesn't then you can get one that will install into one of the freeze plug holes. Just pick a side and install it into the center hole. I am not a fan of the dipstick heaters because they have been known to coke the oil that is in contact with the heater. You can also install one of the heaters that install onto one of the coolant lines. They apparently work well and also circulate the warm coolant through out the engine. Another option is to use a heating pad that glues to the bottom of the oil pan (and battery if you like). They also work fine but can also coke the oil. There are tons of options but I prefer the ones that install into the coolant passage. These also work fine for gasoline engines, tractor engines and so on. All you need is the size of the freeze plug to get the correct size heater. good luck, mark |
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"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com... On Feb 7, 6:17 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 7, 6:06 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message groups.com... On Feb 7, 5:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message m... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Yes. But it has nothing to do with wind chill. It's called the latent heat of evaporation. Eisboch OK. So I used the wrong words. But, the wind *does* mess with the effectiveness of the windshield liquid. You are changing the scenario you originally posted...............you initially said the car was standing still. Regardless, yes wind will accelerate the cooling of the fluid but it will never go below ambient temperature. There is no wind chill factor on windshield wiper fluid. ;-) I said "subject it to moving air", which causes rapid cooling of the surface, and any remaining liquid. What else explains why the fluid can sit in the jug in your trunk and not freeze, but freeze in a split second after hitting the windshield at 50 mph? It is OK to be wrong Doug. I will not get into the ****ing contest you want this to turn into. ;-) I'm wrong about the terminology, but the effect still sounds similar. If the ambient temp doesn't affect the liquid, but adding wind DOES, then...ya know. What's your explanation? Ambient temperature has everything to do with bringing the liquid down to it's level........on a time and exposure basis. Liquids exposed to winds during that exposure only speed up the process. Oy......! |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
oups.com... On Feb 7, 4:29 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ups.com... Only living animals are subject to wind chill. Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-) Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Depends on the liquid. Non-oily. Now what? |
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"r_d" wrote in message
. com... What about aftermarket block heaters all the type that replace the dipstick? Don't tell me google is my friend. I want you to do the work for me. :-) For what engine? All of the international diesels come with the heater installed from the factory (05 and newer ford trucks do not come with the cord but they can be had from International or eBay). I would imagine the GM and Cummins engines also come equip. If you are sure yours doesn't then you can get one that will install into one of the freeze plug holes. Just pick a side and install it into the center hole. I am not a fan of the dipstick heaters because they have been known to coke the oil that is in contact with the heater. You can also install one of the heaters that install onto one of the coolant lines. They apparently work well and also circulate the warm coolant through out the engine. Another option is to use a heating pad that glues to the bottom of the oil pan (and battery if you like). They also work fine but can also coke the oil. There are tons of options but I prefer the ones that install into the coolant passage. These also work fine for gasoline engines, tractor engines and so on. All you need is the size of the freeze plug to get the correct size heater. good luck, mark 2002 Toyota Tacoma, not diesel. |
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On Feb 7, 9:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Feb 7, 4:29 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message roups.com... Only living animals are subject to wind chill. Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-) Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Depends on the liquid. Non-oily. Now what?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Depends on the temperature. |
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On Feb 7, 9:52 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"r_d" wrote in message . com... What about aftermarket block heaters all the type that replace the dipstick? Don't tell me google is my friend. I want you to do the work for me. :-) For what engine? All of the international diesels come with the heater installed from the factory (05 and newer ford trucks do not come with the cord but they can be had from International or eBay). I would imagine the GM and Cummins engines also come equip. If you are sure yours doesn't then you can get one that will install into one of the freeze plug holes. Just pick a side and install it into the center hole. I am not a fan of the dipstick heaters because they have been known to coke the oil that is in contact with the heater. You can also install one of the heaters that install onto one of the coolant lines. They apparently work well and also circulate the warm coolant through out the engine. Another option is to use a heating pad that glues to the bottom of the oil pan (and battery if you like). They also work fine but can also coke the oil. There are tons of options but I prefer the ones that install into the coolant passage. These also work fine for gasoline engines, tractor engines and so on. All you need is the size of the freeze plug to get the correct size heater. good luck, mark 2002 Toyota Tacoma, not diesel.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, there is your first mistake. :) |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
oups.com... On Feb 7, 9:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Feb 7, 4:29 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message roups.com... Only living animals are subject to wind chill. Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-) Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Depends on the liquid. Non-oily. Now what?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Depends on the temperature. Your pink windshield washer fluid. Temp: -19 degrees F. Vehicle speed: 59 mph. You are wearing a dark green sweater and amber sunglasses. |
Chilly Diesel Problems
On Feb 8, 6:35 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Feb 7, 9:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Feb 7, 4:29 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message roups.com... Only living animals are subject to wind chill. Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-) Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Depends on the liquid. Non-oily. Now what?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Depends on the temperature. Your pink windshield washer fluid. Temp: -19 degrees F. Vehicle speed: 59 mph. You are wearing a dark green sweater and amber sunglasses.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No becasue it's enclosed and will only be affected by ambient temperature inside the engine compartment. |
Chilly Diesel Problems
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
oups.com... On Feb 8, 6:35 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Feb 7, 9:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Feb 7, 4:29 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "JimH" wrote in message roups.com... Only living animals are subject to wind chill. Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? http://www.umext.maine.edu/emergency/9024.htm Google "Wind Chill facts" if you need more information. ;-) Nice link, but you did not answer the question. Here it is again: Question: If you put a liquid on a surface, and subject both to moving air, will the surface be cooled by the evaporation of the liquid? Depends on the liquid. Non-oily. Now what?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Depends on the temperature. Your pink windshield washer fluid. Temp: -19 degrees F. Vehicle speed: 59 mph. You are wearing a dark green sweater and amber sunglasses.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No becasue it's enclosed and will only be affected by ambient temperature inside the engine compartment. What about when it hits the windshield, under those same conditions? |
Chilly Diesel Problems
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... What about when it hits the windshield, under those same conditions? Wind will cause an object to lose heat faster ... but will not cool it below the ambient temperature. The evaporation of a liquid is a state change whereby energy is used and heat is given off. Wind chill is a measurement of rapid cooling of living tissue. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
. .. "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... What about when it hits the windshield, under those same conditions? Wind will cause an object to lose heat faster ... but will not cool it below the ambient temperature. The evaporation of a liquid is a state change whereby energy is used and heat is given off. Wind chill is a measurement of rapid cooling of living tissue. Eisboch We're going in circles. Stop focusing on the words "wind chill". Focus on this: Assume you're a chemist, and you know for a fact that you personally have correctly created windshield washer fluid that doesn't freeze at (to pick a number) zero F., why does that fluid actually freeze at a higher temperature, say 5 F., when the vehicle is moving and the fluid hits the windshield? Since this phenomenon actually occurs, please base your next response on that reality. Possible responses: - "I don't know". - "Here's why:...." - "I'm posting a non-answer because I have nothing better to do". |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message . .. "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... What about when it hits the windshield, under those same conditions? Wind will cause an object to lose heat faster ... but will not cool it below the ambient temperature. The evaporation of a liquid is a state change whereby energy is used and heat is given off. Wind chill is a measurement of rapid cooling of living tissue. Eisboch We're going in circles. Stop focusing on the words "wind chill". Focus on this: Assume you're a chemist, and you know for a fact that you personally have correctly created windshield washer fluid that doesn't freeze at (to pick a number) zero F., why does that fluid actually freeze at a higher temperature, say 5 F., when the vehicle is moving and the fluid hits the windshield? Since this phenomenon actually occurs, please base your next response on that reality. Possible responses: - "I don't know". - "Here's why:...." - "I'm posting a non-answer because I have nothing better to do". All the above. The answer is blowing in the wind. Actually, it's because the windshield is cold enough to selectively freeze the H20 content of the "antifreeze". If you notice ... the wind does not even have to be blowing in order to freeze a film on the windshield if you use the fluid and wipers before the defroster starts to warm up the windshield. I am focusing on wind chill because in your original post you confused wind chill as being a factor of the temperature of a non-living object. It isn't. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message . .. All the above. The answer is blowing in the wind. Actually, it's because the windshield is cold enough to selectively freeze the H20 content of the "antifreeze". If you notice ... the wind does not even have to be blowing in order to freeze a film on the windshield if you use the fluid and wipers before the defroster starts to warm up the windshield. I am focusing on wind chill because in your original post you confused wind chill as being a factor of the temperature of a non-living object. It isn't. Eisboch Actually, I think what I just said is incorrect. The freezing film you see develop is water vapor in the air condensing and freezing on the cold windshield. If you notice, the next squirt of washer fluid melts it, then it occurs again and again until the windshield warms up. Eisboch |
Chilly Diesel Problems
"Eisboch" wrote in message
. .. "Eisboch" wrote in message . .. All the above. The answer is blowing in the wind. Actually, it's because the windshield is cold enough to selectively freeze the H20 content of the "antifreeze". If you notice ... the wind does not even have to be blowing in order to freeze a film on the windshield if you use the fluid and wipers before the defroster starts to warm up the windshield. I am focusing on wind chill because in your original post you confused wind chill as being a factor of the temperature of a non-living object. It isn't. Eisboch Actually, I think what I just said is incorrect. The freezing film you see develop is water vapor in the air condensing and freezing on the cold windshield. If you notice, the next squirt of washer fluid melts it, then it occurs again and again until the windshield warms up. Eisboch Hmmmmm....... |
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