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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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I (the original poster) have no problem with the CG or CGA. My concern
was that suddenly I see him filling out all this paperwork about me.
In all these years of sailing, I have rarely had any experiences with
the CG or CGA but when I get a powerboat suddenly I do. It just seemed
weird.


Those powerboaters just require more policing.

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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:14:45 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On 20 Jan 2007 19:52:08 -0800, "Frogwatch"
wrote:


Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:03:18 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I appreciate the CG and CGA, but something just doesnt seem right about
this but I am not sure what it is. Being a very long time sailor, I
have only been stopped by law enforcement types 3 times over 20 years
so I am not used to it happening. Maybe they stop powerboats more.

There are pics of my Tolman on the Fishy Fish site. I am David OHara
and the pics are under my name there. It is a 20' Standard Tolman with
a 90 hp Yamaha and 9.9 hp kicker. I built it as a center console.
This is my first foray into power boating and even though I have been
boating all my life I had never piloted a power boat until December
2006 when I launched my Tolman.

The courtesy inspection is just that - something being done for you.
I've
had several. They don't hurt, no one's out to get you or your boat.

Some folks are a little paranoid. Deservedly so.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

Not paranoid, but I have been inspected by a real asshole. I am in my 14'
aluminum boat and I have more than the required equipment. GPS, fire
extinguisher, throwable cushion. He first complains that there is not a
complete 3" between the CF and the first number of the registration
numbers.
There is only 2". Then makes other nasty remarks and askes where the
extra
lifejackets are after he stepped in the boat. Informed him I am the only
one aboard and I am wearing my PFD. He stated he was aboard. I informed
him to get his ass out of my boat and never get near it again. I should
have called over his co workers and blasted him again for being a
dickhead.


This is a story about the USCGA? I've never seen them inspecting boats on
the water. It has always been at the ramp or in the marina. I've never
been
boarded by them. Anytime I've been boarded, the individual was already
wearing a vest, both Coasties, DNR, and local police. I've seen many USCGA
courtesy patrol boats on the water, but the crew has always been wearing
vests.

Maybe your experience was a San Francisco thing?
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***** Have a super day! *****

John H

I was tied up to the dock by the ramp.

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:14:45 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



Not paranoid, but I have been inspected by a real asshole. I am in my 14'
aluminum boat and I have more than the required equipment. GPS, fire
extinguisher, throwable cushion. He first complains that there is not a
complete 3" between the CF and the first number of the registration numbers.
There is only 2". Then makes other nasty remarks and askes where the extra
lifejackets are after he stepped in the boat. Informed him I am the only
one aboard and I am wearing my PFD. He stated he was aboard. I informed
him to get his ass out of my boat and never get near it again. I should
have called over his co workers and blasted him again for being a dickhead.

LOL. Sounds like a Monty Python skit, but you weren't playing along.
When he said he was aboard probably you were supposed to say "No,
you're not." Then he could say "Yes, I am." And so forth.

--Vic

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JohnH wrote:



This is a story about the USCGA? I've never seen them inspecting boats on
the water. It has always been at the ramp or in the marina. I've never been
boarded by them. Anytime I've been boarded, the individual was already
wearing a vest, both Coasties, DNR, and local police. I've seen many USCGA
courtesy patrol boats on the water, but the crew has always been wearing
vests.

the aux doesn't have authority to board a vessel. even the CG can't
board a vessel unless there is a 'boarding officer'...someone trained
in the use of force...aboard the CG vessel. of course, since the CG is
also military, it CAN board a vessel under 'rules of engagement', but
that's a military issue, not a law enforcement one.

if they board your vessel under the rules of engagement you better do
pretty much what they say.

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Harry Krause wrote:


I'm sure these USCGA and USPS guys do some good, but I've never seen
them doing it, and I've been boating for 50+ years.

well, harry, i guess you weren't in NY harbor after 9/11.

because we were.

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wf3h wrote:
JohnH wrote:
This is a story about the USCGA? I've never seen them inspecting boats on
the water. It has always been at the ramp or in the marina. I've never been
boarded by them. Anytime I've been boarded, the individual was already
wearing a vest, both Coasties, DNR, and local police. I've seen many USCGA
courtesy patrol boats on the water, but the crew has always been wearing
vests.

the aux doesn't have authority to board a vessel. even the CG can't
board a vessel unless there is a 'boarding officer'...someone trained
in the use of force...aboard the CG vessel. of course, since the CG is
also military, it CAN board a vessel under 'rules of engagement', but
that's a military issue, not a law enforcement one.

The CG is a uniformed service, they do not serve subject to the UCMJ.

if they board your vessel under the rules of engagement you better do
pretty much what they say.

The CG is a law enforcement agency.

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I have never been inspected by the CG Aux but my ex-wife in the
flotilla groupenfuerer up there in Md somewhere. (B. Allen) Does that
count? ;-)
The only time the real CG boarded me they were looking for druggies
and I was beached on the Gulf at 3am. Other than the M-16 and the
shotguns it was pretty uneventful. My dog ****ed all over their life
jackets and they sent us on our way, never asking to see my (out of
date) flares.
The Florida Marine Patrol stopped me once but he was looking for fish
and I don't. He did give me a superficial inspection as general
conversation "I like the way your boat is set up, life jackets in that
box?" sort of thing. In a couple minutes he had seen everything and I
didn't feel "boarded" Classy guy.
The only other time I was boarded was a sherriff/CG sweep.
The inspection, again was superficial, it was mostly "who are you and
why are you here" sort of stuff. Again with the guns.
Bushes (all 3) were at Coconut point, a couple miles away tho.


Lots of CG boarding on the San Francisco area. Maybe it is just training,
but they will board while you are out salmon fishing. They will wait if you
have a fish on. They are always courteous.

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:27:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


I'm sure these USCGA and USPS guys do some good, but I've never seen
them doing it, and I've been boating for 50+ years.

Typically, I see a pack of them out on boats on nice sunny days,
cruising around, club-like. In fact, I suspect that's mostly what they
do: engage in club-like activities. Nothing wrong with that. There's
always a certain element who is attracted by quasi-military trappings.

Does that include cap'n hats?
I've never had dealings with them because.....I don't have a boat.
But I'm not so cynical, and figure I'll be talking to them when I get
my CS, at minimum to take the safety course.
But who knows, I might just join up myself - if I can carry a piece.

--Vic

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Bert Robbins wrote:
of course, since the CG is
also military, it CAN board a vessel under 'rules of engagement', but
that's a military issue, not a law enforcement one.

The CG is a uniformed service, they do not serve subject to the UCMJ.

if they board your vessel under the rules of engagement you better do
pretty much what they say.

The CG is a law enforcement agency.

The USCG follows under the Dept. of the Treasury, doesn't it?

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On 21 Jan 2007 17:33:12 -0800, "wf3h" wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:


I'm sure these USCGA and USPS guys do some good, but I've never seen
them doing it, and I've been boating for 50+ years.

well, harry, i guess you weren't in NY harbor after 9/11.

because we were.



Just so you know, whatever my banter with Harry and others, I thank
you for your service. And I'm looking forward to getting some good
education and advice from you guys when I get my boat.

--Vic