I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
-josh


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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:09:36 -0800, Josh Assing
wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

I would suggest calling the customer service folks at Bennett Trim
Tabs and/or go to their web site:

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/

I called them when we were putting new tabs on my old boat and they
were very helpful and knowledgable.

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

No, never heard of them.

Harry Krause wrote:
On 12/27/2006 9:09 AM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:30:53 -0500, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:09:36 -0800, Josh Assing
wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?
I would suggest calling the customer service folks at Bennett Trim
Tabs and/or go to their web site:

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/

I called them when we were putting new tabs on my old boat and they
were very helpful and knowledgable.
Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?
No, never heard of them.

Just adding to what Wayne offered....

sizing instructions:
http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/size1.htm

I'm not familiar with "Smart Tabs," but they appear to be a passive
gas charged cylinder reacting to water pressure from a hull as it
increases in speed. IMHO, it appears that the flaw in their entire
system is that at slow speeds the tab is depressed into a full down
position and acts as a speed brake. They market this as a desirable
feature to enhance trolling... I find it to be a ridiculous assertion
and/or feature. Their goal is for a hands-off passive system. I don't
think that will work and it would seem that Bennett's hands-off system
makes a LOT more sense. See:
http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/autotab.htm

Two more things:

(1) When I went to the "Smart Tab" web site my anti-virus alerted me
with an attempt at malicious code injection. Visit at your own risk...

(2) Bennett used to monitor this newsgroup and a tech rep would
quickly be in touch with posters to answer questions and offer useful
and informative advice. I haven't seen him here lately and it occurs
to me that if we have lost invaluable free resources like that, the
net-copping was too little and too late....



I don't think auto-tabs are a good idea. If you are the skipper, you
should always be aware of where your boat is in the space-time
continuum. Different loading patterns, throttle settings, wave and wind
conditions affect how your boat runs, and as skipper you should be alert
enough to not only notice these, but to effectuate your tabs to best
position your boat's angle of attack. Automating the tab process removes
the skipper from such decision-making.

Generally I am not in favor of devices that make boating "too simple."
Driving a boat on open waters is not like driving a car on the highway.
If you are going to drive a boat, you ought to know how to do it, and
you ought to do it every time you are at the helm.

As for the netcops, well, the chief netcop pain in the ass just drove
off Tom, who has been one of my favorite posters here. So I decided to
filter out the netcop, whose postings have become boring, repetitive and
commercial.


Harry,

I don't think you read what Wayne said, he said:

I haven't seen him here lately and it occurs
to me that if we have lost invaluable free resources like that, the
net-copping was too little and too late....

Since you have said numerous times you really don't come to rec.boats to
discuss boats, but just to meet up with some "old friends". Why don't
you just use email, it would make your life much easier, and you
wouldn't have to put up with all the 'a**holes', to use your favorite word.

Harry Krause wrote:
On 12/27/2006 9:50 AM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Since you have said numerous times you really don't come to rec.boats
to discuss boats, but just to meet up with some "old friends". Why
don't you just use email, it would make your life much easier, and you
wouldn't have to put up with all the 'a**holes', to use your favorite
word.


Ahh, momentarily forgot about the non-boat-owning a**hole known as
Smithers. Into the dustbin he goes.


Harry,
That is an excellent idea, you really should just ignore all those
people who you don't want to respond to, it will be a vast improvement
in the NG

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:30:08 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 12/27/2006 9:09 AM, Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:30:53 -0500, Wayne.B penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:09:36 -0800, Josh Assing
wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?
I would suggest calling the customer service folks at Bennett Trim
Tabs and/or go to their web site:

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/

I called them when we were putting new tabs on my old boat and they
were very helpful and knowledgable.
Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?
No, never heard of them.

Just adding to what Wayne offered....

sizing instructions:
http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/size1.htm

I'm not familiar with "Smart Tabs," but they appear to be a passive
gas charged cylinder reacting to water pressure from a hull as it
increases in speed. IMHO, it appears that the flaw in their entire
system is that at slow speeds the tab is depressed into a full down
position and acts as a speed brake. They market this as a desirable
feature to enhance trolling... I find it to be a ridiculous assertion
and/or feature. Their goal is for a hands-off passive system. I don't
think that will work and it would seem that Bennett's hands-off system
makes a LOT more sense. See:
http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/autotab.htm

Two more things:

(1) When I went to the "Smart Tab" web site my anti-virus alerted me
with an attempt at malicious code injection. Visit at your own risk...

(2) Bennett used to monitor this newsgroup and a tech rep would
quickly be in touch with posters to answer questions and offer useful
and informative advice. I haven't seen him here lately and it occurs
to me that if we have lost invaluable free resources like that, the
net-copping was too little and too late....



I don't think auto-tabs are a good idea. If you are the skipper, you
should always be aware of where your boat is in the space-time
continuum. Different loading patterns, throttle settings, wave and wind
conditions affect how your boat runs, and as skipper you should be alert
enough to not only notice these, but to effectuate your tabs to best
position your boat's angle of attack. Automating the tab process removes
the skipper from such decision-making.

Generally I am not in favor of devices that make boating "too simple."
Driving a boat on open waters is not like driving a car on the highway.
If you are going to drive a boat, you ought to know how to do it, and
you ought to do it every time you are at the helm.

As for the netcops, well, the chief netcop pain in the ass just drove
off Tom, who has been one of my favorite posters here. So I decided to
filter out the netcop, whose postings have become boring, repetitive and
commercial.

You missed the point, Harry. He said, "... the net-copping was too little
and too late...."

If Chuck's jab about the Hasselbad post actually drove Tom off, then Tom's
skin is pretty thin. I don't think Chuck's comment was all that
appropriate, but it wasn't nearly as bad as some of the JimH comments about
the wealth or assets of others. None of those seemed to bother you too
much.

Isn't your continuous use of the word asshole about others an example of
*your* netcopping? Face it, you love netcopping if it's in agreement with
*your* perspective!
--
John

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 09:54:30 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 12/27/2006 9:50 AM, Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

Since you have said numerous times you really don't come to rec.boats to
discuss boats, but just to meet up with some "old friends". Why don't
you just use email, it would make your life much easier, and you
wouldn't have to put up with all the 'a**holes', to use your favorite word.


Ahh, momentarily forgot about the non-boat-owning a**hole known as
Smithers. Into the dustbin he goes.


Would be great if you put everyone with whom you disagree in your
'dustbin'. It would improve the group tremendously.
--
John

Josh Assing wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
-josh


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I know no one with Smart Tabs but I have seen their ads. They look like
a simple strut or spring that forces both tabs down with equal pressure.
A conventional trim tab system is individually adjustable, as you
would expect, to properly balance the boat. They also look like they
are going to get in the way on a trailer boat since they are going to
hang down without any water to move them.

FWIW, a friend of mine walked into Bennett's office in Deerfield Beach,
FL with his old pump in hand. It was very old - over 15 years at the
time. He gave up on trying to find replacement parts so he stopped in
for advice.

He walked out with a refurbished pump that looked like it was new. No
Charge!

If nothing else, Bennett is a company that really stands behind their
products so give them a look if you decide to consider conventional trim
tabs.

Dan

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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:25:01 -0500, Dan wrote:

Josh Assing wrote:

I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
-josh


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I know no one with Smart Tabs but I have seen their ads. They look like
a simple strut or spring that forces both tabs down with equal pressure.
A conventional trim tab system is individually adjustable, as you
would expect, to properly balance the boat. They also look like they
are going to get in the way on a trailer boat since they are going to
hang down without any water to move them.

FWIW, a friend of mine walked into Bennett's office in Deerfield Beach,
FL with his old pump in hand. It was very old - over 15 years at the
time. He gave up on trying to find replacement parts so he stopped in
for advice.

He walked out with a refurbished pump that looked like it was new. No
Charge!

If nothing else, Bennett is a company that really stands behind their
products so give them a look if you decide to consider conventional trim
tabs.

Dan


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SmartTabs are an inexpensive option but they won't help trim the boat side
to side; they're designed to help you get on plane at a slower speed with
minimal bow rise and keep you on plane longer as you slow down.
So, they're good for half the price, but not as effective and not adjustable
while underway.

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I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
-josh


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I have a pair of the tournament tabs on my 19 1/2 bow rider. They look like
they are the same size as the m80's but I'd like the black better. They
work great. I'd go with those m120's for a boat your size unless you have
limited space on the transom. The m80s or tournament tabs only need 8" on
each side. The 120s need 10". Forget the non-powered ones, you need to be
able to move them as needed. In rough water you can put them down a little
even at higher speeds. And I leave them all the way down for wakeboarding.

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I have a 92 BlueWater cuddy runabout in need of trim tabs.

What size trim tabs should I go with?

Has anyone tried/reviewed/know of anyone with "Smart Tabs"?

Thanks
-josh


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