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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle
wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. |
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Peter Bennett wrote:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj |
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. .. Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a troll? :-) http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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![]() krj wrote: Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj What? Longitude doesn't vary with latitude?????? Are you also saying that Latitude DOES vary with regards to longitude?????? |
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krj wrote:
Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Agree.. that's what they taught us in the Power & Sail Squadron courses. |
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krj wrote: Peter Bennett wrote: On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle wrote: Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it will ever disappear in earth based navigation. The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or 6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch. I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude). That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west side of the chart. krj Hmmmmm..... I think you have your terms "Wrapped around the Axle" here.... Nautical Miles is based on "Minute of Latitude" which does NOT change since the distance from the Equater to the Poles is ALWAYS the SAME, from any place on the EQUATER. Therefor, when dividing that distance in Degrees, MInutes, and Seconds, will ALWAYS produce the same Unit Lengths. Where as Longitude is the cicumfrence of the earth at the equater divided into Degrees, Minutes, and Seconds, and that DOES change Unit length as you move closer to the Poles. Longitude is marked on the bottom and top of Maps, where Latitude is marked on the right and left had edges of Maps. One ALWAYS uses the Latitude markings for distance because they do NOT change Unit Length, EVER..... Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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"Roger Long" wrote in news:0zWbh.31688$zB4.19393
@twister.nyroc.rr.com: Isn't KPS "Knots per Hour" = "Knots"? Knots per hour, would be a unit of acceleration because "knots" means "nautical miles per hour". Knots per hour = "nautical miles per hour per hour". We sailors only DREAM of acceleration....(c; Larry -- If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other? |
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:42:57 -0500, Larry wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in news:0zWbh.31688$zB4.19393 : Isn't KPS "Knots per Hour" = "Knots"? Knots per hour, would be a unit of acceleration because "knots" means "nautical miles per hour". Knots per hour = "nautical miles per hour per hour". We sailors only DREAM of acceleration....(c; Larry You can use knots per hour to measure deceleration, too... :-) (or should it be furlongs per fortnight? I always started the engine when the Loran-gave an ETE of 99 hours.) -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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Peter Bennett wrote in
news.com: You can use knots per hour to measure deceleration, too... :-) (or should it be furlongs per fortnight? I always started the engine when the Loran-gave an ETE of 99 hours.) Yeah, but "deceleration" usually means we just ran aground and sailors never like to think about "deceleration"...(c; Larry -- If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other? |
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![]() Oliver Fleming wrote: Hi, I have been told that all new equipment, chartplotters, speedometers and the like will not have knots as a speed option. Knots will be phased out and KPH will be the new standard for marine equipment. Has anybody heard of this? If so where? Some links please if available. Thanks Oliver Fleming I can see it now: A CA or EUR boat shopper looks at a runabout. Shopper: One little thing that bothers me is that the speedometer reads in kph, rather than knots. Is there an option to get a speedometer that reads in knots? Unprofessional salesperson: Oh no. Of course not. Didn't you know that all new navigation equipment will eliminate knots as a unit of measurement and the new worldwide standard will be kph? **** Sometimes a depth sounder is appropriate in the showroom, where it has been known to get piled up pretty deep indeed. :-) |
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