"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip

Grant


Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.

Gladly:

1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described.
2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in
fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product.
3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via
email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam
category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue.
If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the
track to get it- but it isn't appearing here.
4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody
actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to
discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a
similar concept might be a useful safety device.


1. You mentioned the manufacturer
2. The manufacturer mentioned the specific product by name
3. You offered to act as a distributor for the manufacturer

If it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck...........

What you should have said:

======================
"I received an email from my brother in law........ummm....I mean a
manufacturer of a safety product for boaters and would like your opinions on
it.

The company manufactures a device that is worn either around the child's
wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or lifevest and sends
a wireless signal to a base station (positioned anywhere on the boat) if the
child or pet falls overboard. The base station then alarms loudly so that
the adults on board know immediately
that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to help."

What do you think?

============================

Personally I think that anyone who leaves a child unsupervised around water,
even for a minute, is insane.

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip
Grant

Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.
Gladly:

1) I have no financial interest of any kind in the item described.
2) There is no pricing or commercial contact information included, (in
fact, it was deleted), merely a description of a new product.
3) I do have contact information available to anybody interested via
email- but I didn't post that here to *avoid* falling into a spam
category. Spam is a commercial solicitation in a non-commercial venue.
If somebody wants the commercial solicitation, I will put them on the
track to get it- but it isn't appearing here.
4) There is no personal endorsement or recommendation that anybody
actually purchase one of these for any purpose, merely an invitation to
discuss whether such a device by this or some other manufacturer with a
similar concept might be a useful safety device.


1. You mentioned the manufacturer
2. The manufacturer mentioned the specific product by name
3. You offered to act as a distributor for the manufacturer

If it smells like a duck and quacks like a duck...........

What you should have said:

======================
"I received an email from my brother in law........ummm....I mean a
manufacturer of a safety product for boaters and would like your opinions on
it.

The company manufactures a device that is worn either around the child's
wrist or on their lifevest or around the pet's collar or lifevest and sends
a wireless signal to a base station (positioned anywhere on the boat) if the
child or pet falls overboard. The base station then alarms loudly so that
the adults on board know immediately
that there is a child/pet that has fallen overboard and can rush to help."

What do you think?

============================

Personally I think that anyone who leaves a child unsupervised around water,
even for a minute, is insane.



JimH,
I wish you would stop being the NG net nanny, no one likes that. Your
netcopping has repeated the same post many times more than Chuck did.

JohnH wrote:
On 30 Nov 2006 12:07:41 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Your "good friend in Ohio" is trying hard to become the group a-hole again.


See how posting spam results in some members here having to start with
the name calling Chuck? Sort of like political threads.......eh?

BTW: JohnH, no one will take your title away from you. Don't sweat it
guy!

Chuck,
I missed this post the first time, so I am glad it was repeated. I
would like to hear more about the device.

Is it available today?
What price is the safety alarm?
Is there a web page I might be able to see the product?

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip

Grant


Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.

Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are
nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ps.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:


I'd use something like that if I had a little kid on the boat. Not for a
dog, though.

There are a lot of boaters who cruise with dogs and who really pamper
them.

Empty nesters seem to be the worst. (If it's a bad thing, which it
probably is not).
I know of several boating couples in their 50's, 60's, and 70's who
consider their dog almost as close to heart as one of their own kids,
and maybe only a half step behind a grandkid.

If they find a market for this thing, don't be surprised if a lot of
people hook up their doggy life vests, etc.

One of the best attended seminars at the last boat show we had in town
here was "How to Cruise with Your Dog".


They sell them for swimming pool safety. When the God Babies were out for
daughters wedding this summer, I looked at them, but went for a pool alarm
instead. The kid may not be wearing the bracelet when she went outside.
Might be great for a boat.

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip

Grant


Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.




Sheriff, get outa town. Is boating related, and you can go to any pool
supply store and see one. There are cases of kids falling off boats and not
being noticed as missing for a time.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip

Grant


Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.

Chuck works for a magazine. Magazines have new product pages which are
nothing but a brief mention of thing that might be interesting to readers.

I understand. I would have had no problem with Chucks post if he did
not copy an email he received from a manufacturer specifically
mentioning their products name and with Chuck offering to act as
middleman to facilitate the sale of the stuff.

As it stood his post was pure Spam and as Head Sheriff of the NG he
should have know that and modified his post as I suggested. I am just
reminding him of the rules so he learns to walk the walk.

It is interesting to see his deputies come to his rescue though. (not
you Doug). ;-)

Calif Bill wrote:
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

*********

Hi Chuck,
snip

Grant


Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.




Sheriff, get outa town. Is boating related, and you can go to any pool
supply store and see one. There are cases of kids falling off boats and not
being noticed as missing for a time.

I understand that. And the parents of those dead kids are idiots for
leaving their children unattended...even for a few seconds.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 14:37:01 -0500, " JimH" not telling you @
pffftt.com wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
groups.com...
This was in this morning's email.

Presented here as an interesting idea, so the specific contact details
for additional information or purchase information have been eliminated
from this post. In the unlikely event that somebody would be interested
in contacting the firm that makes this device, Email me at

and I'll send the contact info via that route:

Chuck, remind me again how this is not SPAM.

Allow me Chuck.

It pertains to me because I boat with my dogs and occasionally have
children aboard not to mention my nieces. If I am distracted for some
reason, it would be an additional piece of safety alert that could be
very important in certain situations.

Others may have that interest also and I can think of several other
applications in which this could be very useful.


According to the replies I have been overwhelmingly overruled.

Fair enough.

My apologies for the Spam allegations Chuck.