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JohnH November 30th 06 06:19 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.

Me too!


Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?


Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.


Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

basskisser November 30th 06 06:36 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!


Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?


Do you think Jesus is a fictional character who did not live
approximately 2000 yrs ago?


Never said that. Never intended that. Sorry, Reggie, you can't put
words in my mouth.

In short, he could have been a real character, and could quite possibly
been fictional. Do you have any evidence that he was real? And again,
do you believe that the world is 6000 years old, or don't you?


basskisser November 30th 06 06:39 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.

'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******
Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.
That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?


Can you prove the existence of George Washington?


Yes. His remains, his possessions, historical accounts, writings, home,
on and on, all accounted for.


basskisser November 30th 06 06:41 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.

'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******
Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.
That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?

ps - even the Jewish historical records record the life of Jesus, they
did not believe he was the son of God, but they do record his life and
death. Can you prove the existence of anyone who has died?


Yes. My father's ashes are on my mantel. I watched as they loaded him
into the incinerator.


basskisser November 30th 06 06:43 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.

Me too!

Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?


Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.


Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?


Reginald P. Smithers III November 30th 06 08:33 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?

Do you think Jesus is a fictional character who did not live
approximately 2000 yrs ago?


Never said that. Never intended that. Sorry, Reggie, you can't put
words in my mouth.

In short, he could have been a real character, and could quite possibly
been fictional. Do you have any evidence that he was real? And again,
do you believe that the world is 6000 years old, or don't you?

No I don't believe the world is 6000 yrs old, do you?

Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?

Reginald P. Smithers III November 30th 06 08:34 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.

'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******
Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.
That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?

Can you prove the existence of George Washington?


Yes. His remains, his possessions, historical accounts, writings, home,
on and on, all accounted for.

prove it.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 30th 06 08:34 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.

'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******
Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.
That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?

ps - even the Jewish historical records record the life of Jesus, they
did not believe he was the son of God, but they do record his life and
death. Can you prove the existence of anyone who has died?


Yes. My father's ashes are on my mantel. I watched as they loaded him
into the incinerator.

prove it, it is only your word

Reginald P. Smithers III November 30th 06 08:36 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?


Reginald P. Smithers III November 30th 06 08:38 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.

'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******
Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.
That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?

Can you prove the existence of George Washington?


Yes. His remains, his possessions, historical accounts, writings, home,
on and on, all accounted for.

Can you prove his remains are really George Washington, you just got
finished saying historical records are often fictitious. Please provide
proof that George Washington was real.

Calif Bill November 30th 06 08:52 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:06:24 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.


'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.

That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.


A bass?


Alleged bass. Probably a catfish.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******


Cite?



Calif Bill November 30th 06 08:54 PM

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"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:33:44 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:06:24 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.


'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous
incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.

That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.

A bass?

Alleged bass. Probably a catfish.


Alleged catfish. :)


I can prove the existence of a catfish, can you prove the existence of
Jesus Christ? If so, I'd like to see.


Lots of proof. Roman's wrote down the facts in the case. There is lots of
proof of JC. There may not be proof that he was "Son of God". But lots of
data on Jesus himself.



Calif Bill November 30th 06 08:56 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.


'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.


That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?


You do not believe that Earth is at least that old?



basskisser November 30th 06 09:12 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?


If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?


basskisser November 30th 06 09:13 PM

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Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:33:44 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:15 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:06:24 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.


'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous
incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.

That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.

A bass?

Alleged bass. Probably a catfish.

Alleged catfish. :)


I can prove the existence of a catfish, can you prove the existence of
Jesus Christ? If so, I'd like to see.


Lots of proof. Roman's wrote down the facts in the case. There is lots of
proof of JC. There may not be proof that he was "Son of God". But lots of
data on Jesus himself.


OH!!! So in your eyes, hearsay is proof positive??? Now THAT'S a
stretch!!


basskisser November 30th 06 09:15 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.


'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.

That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?


You do not believe that Earth is at least that old?


Damn, you are dumb as a post! Where did I ever say that I don't believe
the Earth is "at least that old"? You just can't comprehend a thing you
read, can you? If you believe the bible, you must believe that the
earth is ONLY around 6000 years old, you fool.


basskisser November 30th 06 10:04 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?

Do you think Jesus is a fictional character who did not live
approximately 2000 yrs ago?


Never said that. Never intended that. Sorry, Reggie, you can't put
words in my mouth.

In short, he could have been a real character, and could quite possibly
been fictional. Do you have any evidence that he was real? And again,
do you believe that the world is 6000 years old, or don't you?

No I don't believe the world is 6000 yrs old, do you?


Nope, it's much, much older.

Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?


No, no one has shown me any diffinititve evidence of such. I don't
however NOT believe it, either, same reason, no one has shown me any
evidence that there wasn't.


Reginald P. Smithers III November 30th 06 10:10 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?


If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?


I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.

For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.

Reginald P. Smithers III November 30th 06 10:12 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?

Do you think Jesus is a fictional character who did not live
approximately 2000 yrs ago?
Never said that. Never intended that. Sorry, Reggie, you can't put
words in my mouth.

In short, he could have been a real character, and could quite possibly
been fictional. Do you have any evidence that he was real? And again,
do you believe that the world is 6000 years old, or don't you?

No I don't believe the world is 6000 yrs old, do you?


Nope, it's much, much older.
Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?


No, no one has shown me any diffinititve evidence of such. I don't
however NOT believe it, either, same reason, no one has shown me any
evidence that there wasn't.

Well, i guess one can not believe in any historical info, because one
can always say it was not definitive.

Dan December 1st 06 01:05 AM

I can't believe this.............
 
ACP wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
nk.net...

basskisser wrote:


Dan wrote:


basskisser wrote:



Dan wrote:




If the boy lost his news server he might put a gun to his little head.
Don't upset him. It's Kevin's bed time.


Dan, because of your infatuation with me, you've stalked me enough to
know I'm not Kevin.

Infatuation.....
Infatuation.....
It's making Dan crazy....
It's driving Dan CRAAAZZZYYY.....


Then why the hell are you replying to this post, little boy?


Because your REPLY was directly to ME. Damn, you can't be that dumb if
you're an adult....


The reply was NOT to you. Try again, junior.


Play nice


and you might someday grow up to be a man!


I'm more of a man than you'll ever be, punk.


Cite?



Wait till he gets a load of Chuck's 634 word diatribe up in the "no sex
under 30" thread.



My bet is we'll hear crickets from this one.

Dan December 1st 06 01:06 AM

I can't believe this.............
 
Kevin wrote:


diffinititve

He's still learning. Give the boy some room.

Calif Bill December 1st 06 04:21 AM

I can't believe this.............
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.


'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous
incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.

That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?


You do not believe that Earth is at least that old?


Damn, you are dumb as a post! Where did I ever say that I don't believe
the Earth is "at least that old"? You just can't comprehend a thing you
read, can you? If you believe the bible, you must believe that the
earth is ONLY around 6000 years old, you fool.


Do not call me a fool. You are the one saying the earth is only 6000 years
old.



Calif Bill December 1st 06 04:22 AM

I can't believe this.............
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
s.com...

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or
do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything
here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?


If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?


Is that the Bible or the Old Testament?



Calif Bill December 1st 06 04:23 AM

I can't believe this.............
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?

Do you think Jesus is a fictional character who did not live
approximately 2000 yrs ago?

Never said that. Never intended that. Sorry, Reggie, you can't put
words in my mouth.

In short, he could have been a real character, and could quite possibly
been fictional. Do you have any evidence that he was real? And again,
do you believe that the world is 6000 years old, or don't you?

No I don't believe the world is 6000 yrs old, do you?


Nope, it's much, much older.

Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?


No, no one has shown me any diffinititve evidence of such. I don't
however NOT believe it, either, same reason, no one has shown me any
evidence that there wasn't.


How do you know? Hearsay?



basskisser December 1st 06 01:29 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?


If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?


I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.


Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".

For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.


I agree. So?


basskisser December 1st 06 01:37 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?

Do you think Jesus is a fictional character who did not live
approximately 2000 yrs ago?
Never said that. Never intended that. Sorry, Reggie, you can't put
words in my mouth.

In short, he could have been a real character, and could quite possibly
been fictional. Do you have any evidence that he was real? And again,
do you believe that the world is 6000 years old, or don't you?

No I don't believe the world is 6000 yrs old, do you?


Nope, it's much, much older.
Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?


No, no one has shown me any diffinititve evidence of such. I don't
however NOT believe it, either, same reason, no one has shown me any
evidence that there wasn't.

Well, i guess one can not believe in any historical info, because one
can always say it was not definitive.


Well, an intelligent person can gather data, and if the data is
overwhelming, surmise that an event probably did happen. Physical
evidence is one good clue. That's how most people who commit crimes are
caught. But, in order for the physical evidence to be plausible, it has
to be directly linked to the task at hand. Jesus's face on a piece of
toast isn't quite as plausible as say, DNA evidence.


basskisser December 1st 06 01:38 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Dan wrote:
ACP wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
nk.net...

basskisser wrote:


Dan wrote:


basskisser wrote:



Dan wrote:




If the boy lost his news server he might put a gun to his little head.
Don't upset him. It's Kevin's bed time.


Dan, because of your infatuation with me, you've stalked me enough to
know I'm not Kevin.

Infatuation.....
Infatuation.....
It's making Dan crazy....
It's driving Dan CRAAAZZZYYY.....


Then why the hell are you replying to this post, little boy?


Because your REPLY was directly to ME. Damn, you can't be that dumb if
you're an adult....


The reply was NOT to you. Try again, junior.


Play nice


and you might someday grow up to be a man!


I'm more of a man than you'll ever be, punk.


Cite?



Wait till he gets a load of Chuck's 634 word diatribe up in the "no sex
under 30" thread.



My bet is we'll hear crickets from this one.


Infatuation......
Infatuation.....
It's driving Dan crazy.....
It's making Dan CRRRAAAZZZYYY.....


basskisser December 1st 06 01:40 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:03:20 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:04:46 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

snip

Does this mean my flashlight is a
symbol of the birth of Christ???
Alleged birth of Christ.


'Alleged birth' of Christ as opposed to what? Miraculous
incarnation?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

Jesus's life was recorded by Roman historians, so if he wasn't born,
than it would truly be a miracle.

That's about what I was thinking. I wonder who presided at the alleged
birth of basskisser.
--
John H

The Romans wrote many, many historical fictional works. Please provide
proof that Jesus Christ was born. Do you also believe the bible, and
thus believe the earth is around 6000 years old?


You do not believe that Earth is at least that old?


Damn, you are dumb as a post! Where did I ever say that I don't believe
the Earth is "at least that old"? You just can't comprehend a thing you
read, can you? If you believe the bible, you must believe that the
earth is ONLY around 6000 years old, you fool.


Do not call me a fool. You are the one saying the earth is only 6000 years
old.


WTF???????

Where to HELL did I say that the earth was only 6000 years old????
Show me.....


basskisser December 1st 06 01:41 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
s.com...

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or
do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything
here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?


If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?


Is that the Bible or the Old Testament?


The bible. Which by the way, part of IS the old testament.


basskisser December 1st 06 01:42 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?

Do you think Jesus is a fictional character who did not live
approximately 2000 yrs ago?

Never said that. Never intended that. Sorry, Reggie, you can't put
words in my mouth.

In short, he could have been a real character, and could quite possibly
been fictional. Do you have any evidence that he was real? And again,
do you believe that the world is 6000 years old, or don't you?

No I don't believe the world is 6000 yrs old, do you?


Nope, it's much, much older.

Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?


No, no one has shown me any diffinititve evidence of such. I don't
however NOT believe it, either, same reason, no one has shown me any
evidence that there wasn't.


How do you know? Hearsay?


How do I know WHAT???


Reginald P. Smithers III December 1st 06 04:30 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.


Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.


I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.

basskisser December 1st 06 05:33 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.


Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.


I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.


Why are you offended? I simply stated my case. Is there something that
you don't understand? If so, I'll clarify for you.


Tim December 1st 06 06:04 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?


I do, and I also believe he is the only begotten Son of God. ?:-)


JohnH December 1st 06 06:07 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:30:08 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.


Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.


I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.


Sounds like the 'Ah Ha' light just came on!

Chuck Gould December 1st 06 06:17 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.


Me too!


Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?


Boating related slant on your discussion:


Do you realize that the Bible is not a single book? It is a library of
books.

If you went down to the public library to learn about, say, boat
handling you might find one book that describes how to launch a cartop
kayak and select the proper paddle. You might find another that says
you will need a crew of 60 to properly set the sails, and still another
that describes sailing single handed. You might find another that
describes coordinating the port and starboard engines when manuevering
a power boat, and yet another that describes how to manuever with a
single screw. Are all of these books "incorrect" because they
contradict one another? Is all of the information in the library
invalid because different people at different times and from different
perspectives wrote about a variety of aspects of boat handling? Of
course not. An informed person would realize that trying to apply the
literal instructions for sailing a 19th century frigate, paddling a
kayak, operating a sailing dinghy,
or bringing a twin screw Bayliner to the dock to a different situation
or even simultaneously
on any single vessel would result in disaster. Yet each book in the
library could easily expand a reader's total awareness of boat
handling, and all are true and useful within their
specific frame of reference.

Simply because some books in the library come to different conclusions
than other books in the library or address the same topic from
different perspectives, that would hardly be a valid reason to dismiss
any of the books or the entire contents of the library as bogus.

Your reference to Genesis, for example. I absolutely believe that the
Genesis cosmology accurately reports how an ancient people expressed
their interpretation and understanding of a creative force in or for
the universe. There is a lot to be learned from that, but (IMO) the
lesson has been wasted on those who glean nothing more than some belief
that the earth is only 6000 years old or that life as we know it in
this current era emerged during a period of seven rotations of the
earth.


Reginald P. Smithers III December 1st 06 06:24 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.
Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.
I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.


Why are you offended? I simply stated my case. Is there something that
you don't understand? If so, I'll clarify for you.

It is your inability to follow a train of thought that is the reason why
most people have come to the conclusion you are not worth the effort.

basskisser December 1st 06 06:25 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Tim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?


I do, and I also believe he is the only begotten Son of God. ?:-)


Do you think the earth is only around 6000 years old?
What evidence do you have that Jesus is real, lived about 2000 years
ago, and was the son of "God"? What evidence do you have that God
existed? I'd really like some proof positive so I too could believe it.


Reginald P. Smithers III December 1st 06 06:25 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:30:08 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.
Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.
I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.


Sounds like the 'Ah Ha' light just came on!


I really think that it just might be possible for him to follow a train
of thought, but it is really useless.

basskisser December 1st 06 06:27 PM

I can't believe this.............
 

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
basskisser wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:57:19 -0500, "ACP" wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Tim wrote:
ACP wrote:
Personally, I'm in the "birth" camp.
Me too!
Prove the existence of Jesus Christ to me, then I'll believe it. I
suppose you think the world is only around 6000 years old, huh? Or do
you not belive in the bible?
Believe what you will, that's your right. I haven't read anything here
where anyone was trying to change your beliefs.

Besides, proving his existence would be hard. He died.
--
John H

Do you believe the world is only 6000 years old as the bible professes?

One can believe that Jesus was born, that he lived and that he died,
without believing the world is only 6000 yrs old. Most people who do
not believe Jesus was god or a prophet believe Jesus was born about 2000
yrs ago, why don't you?
If you don't believe the earth is only 6000 years old then you can't
believe the bible! I never said that I don't believe Jesus was born
about 2000 years ago. Where did you get that idea?

I probably got that idea when you said "alleged birth" or "can you prove
the existence of Jesus". If you believe Jesus was born, there is no
"alleged birth.
Yes, I said "alleged", as in declared or stated to be as described, or
doubtful, suspect. If I had of said the false, or fake birth, one could
ASSume that I didn't believe Jesus was born. I do, however have
suspicions about the accuracy of that, hence "alleged".
For what it is worth, there are many people who believe Jesus is the son
of god, and don't believe the bible is an accurate description of
natural history.
I agree. So?

It is impossible to have a conversation with you, so I really don't know
why I bother.


Why are you offended? I simply stated my case. Is there something that
you don't understand? If so, I'll clarify for you.

It is your inability to follow a train of thought that is the reason why
most people have come to the conclusion you are not worth the effort.


I've followed your train of thought completely. It's just that you've
ran out of data, or that you had previously misunderstood the meaning
of 'alleged'.


Tim December 1st 06 06:27 PM

I can't believe this.............
 
Faith.


basskisser wrote:
Tim wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Yes I do believe an individual by the name of Jesus lived about 2000 yrs
ago, do you?


I do, and I also believe he is the only begotten Son of God. ?:-)


Do you think the earth is only around 6000 years old?
What evidence do you have that Jesus is real, lived about 2000 years
ago, and was the son of "God"? What evidence do you have that God
existed? I'd really like some proof positive so I too could believe it.




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