|
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
What is the difference between a Deep Cycle battery and a Trolling
battery? I'm buying a Minn Kota Endura 30 electric trolling motor and can't decide on the battery. Even the salesman gives an unsure answer as to the difference between the two. Which one do I buy??? -KCB |
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
"kcb559" wrote in message om... What is the difference between a Deep Cycle battery and a Trolling battery? I'm buying a Minn Kota Endura 30 electric trolling motor and can't decide on the battery. Even the salesman gives an unsure answer as to the difference between the two. Which one do I buy??? They are one and the same. Later, Tom |
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
A trolling battery is a deep cycle battery with built-in extra boat
dealer profit........like any part you put "boat" labels on. Buy a deep cycle battery from a BATTERY store and save the extra markup.... Put 4 golf cart 6V batteries in series (255AH for $69 at Batteries Plus) and run it on 24V if it's rated for 24V. Works great if you can leave the batteries in the boat permanently. Great ballast to hold the bow down in the waves, too!....(c; On 20 Aug 2003 00:50:01 -0700, (kcb559) wrote: What is the difference between a Deep Cycle battery and a Trolling battery? I'm buying a Minn Kota Endura 30 electric trolling motor and can't decide on the battery. Even the salesman gives an unsure answer as to the difference between the two. Which one do I buy??? -KCB Larry W4CSC Maybe we could get the power grid fixed if every politician regulating the power companies wasn't on their payrolls. |
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:47:21 +0000, Larry W4CSC wrote:
A trolling battery is a deep cycle battery with built-in extra boat dealer profit........like any part you put "boat" labels on. Correct! Buy a deep cycle battery from a BATTERY store and save the extra markup.... Good idea! I get my batteries from Polar Batteries here in Vanc. They get Trojans and put their own label on, they're cheaper than Canadian Tire. Put 4 golf cart 6V batteries in series (255AH for $69 at Batteries Plus) and run it on 24V if it's rated for 24V. Works great if you can leave the batteries in the boat permanently. Whoa! He's talking about a Minn Kota 30, here! First, it's 12V. And second, it takes maybe 30A at full load. I use a Group 22NF battery ($49.95 at Canadian Tire) and it runs pretty much all afternoon. I'd say a Group 24 deep cycle would be fine. Lloyd Sumpter "Near Cove" Walker Bay 8 c/w M-C 30 Endura On 20 Aug 2003 00:50:01 -0700, (kcb559) wrote: What is the difference between a Deep Cycle battery and a Trolling battery? I'm buying a Minn Kota Endura 30 electric trolling motor and can't decide on the battery. Even the salesman gives an unsure answer as to the difference between the two. Which one do I buy??? |
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:09:40 +0000, BinaryBillTheSailo wrote:
On 20 Aug 2003 00:50:01 -0700, (kcb559) wrote: What is the difference between a Deep Cycle battery and a Trolling battery? I'm buying a Minn Kota Endura 30 electric trolling motor and can't decide on the battery. Even the salesman gives an unsure answer as to the difference between the two. Which one do I buy??? -KCB The difference you want to look at is between a trolling and a starting battery. There are some batteries that even claim to be both. What you want is a deep cycle battery that is specifically designed for trolling. Otherwise your motor will run like a rabbit for about 30 minutes and then taper off quickly. Actually, the motor will run identically between deepcyle/trolling and starting. The difference is, the 4th or 5th time you run the battery down to "dead", the starting battery won't come back up, but the deepcyle will. The 22NF battery I use on my Endura 30 is a "starting" battery, and it runs the motor fine. I just don't let it run down to more than maybe 50%. I still expect it to not last that long, but it's on it's 3rd year now... (It was a "Proof of Concept" purchase: I wanted the cheapest I could buy in case it didn't work out.) Lloyd Lloyd |
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
wrote in message ... On 20 Aug 2003 00:50:01 -0700, (kcb559) wrote: What is the difference between a Deep Cycle battery and a Trolling battery? I'm buying a Minn Kota Endura 30 electric trolling motor and can't decide on the battery. Even the salesman gives an unsure answer as to the difference between the two. Which one do I buy??? -KCB The difference you want to look at is between a trolling and a starting battery. There are some batteries that even claim to be both. What you want is a deep cycle battery that is specifically designed for trolling. Otherwise your motor will run like a rabbit for about 30 minutes and then taper off quickly. The original question was the difference between a deep cycle and a trolling battery where there is no difference - a deep cycle battery is a trolling battery. The difference between a start battery and a deep cycle battery is that the starting battery has thinner plates allowing for initial high amp discharge, but have zero capacity for long term discharge. Deep cycle batteries are the opposite. Here's a great discussion of batteries. http://uuhome.de/william.darden/ Later, Tom |
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:47:42 +0000, BinaryBillThesailo wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:09:29 -0700, "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:09:40 +0000, BinaryBillTheSailo wrote: On 20 Aug 2003 00:50:01 -0700, (kcb559) wrote: What is the difference between a Deep Cycle battery and a Trolling battery? I'm buying a Minn Kota Endura 30 electric trolling motor and can't decide on the battery. Even the salesman gives an unsure answer as to the difference between the two. Which one do I buy??? -KCB The difference you want to look at is between a trolling and a starting battery. There are some batteries that even claim to be both. What you want is a deep cycle battery that is specifically designed for trolling. Otherwise your motor will run like a rabbit for about 30 minutes and then taper off quickly. Actually, the motor will run identically between deepcyle/trolling and starting. Sorry Lloyd, but you are incorrect on that point. Why? Does the deep cycle have different volts? Ohms law doesn't apply? Lloyd Same volts, just different time of availability. The Deep cycle has a heavier, reinforced plate system. Allows more discharge and the ability to recharge without the plates warping, and shorting together. The Starting batt has more surface area, for high current flow for a short time. |
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:33:24 +0000, BinaryBillTheSailo wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 20:19:15 -0700, "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:47:42 +0000, BinaryBillThesailo wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:09:29 -0700, "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote: Actually, the motor will run identically between deepcyle/trolling and starting. Sorry Lloyd, but you are incorrect on that point. Why? Does the deep cycle have different volts? Ohms law doesn't apply? Same volts, but a different power output curve. The starter battery is designed to output maximum amps for a short period. The trolling motor will gladly use whatever is available, and the starter battery will quickly lose output if you run the electric motor at full speed. The trolling motor will run like a jackrabbit for a short time, and then will lose it's enthusiasm. A deep cycle trolling motor will output lower amperage over a longer period. Think of the difference between a sprinter and a marathoner. That's why there are many different types of batteries. Different uses require different characteristics. BB There's a difference between how much current a battery CAN supply and how much the load is drawing. A 30-lb Endura pulls 30A at 12.5 V (approx) full load. It's Ohm's Law, not the battery characteristics, that determines the current. A fully charged battery, starting or deep-cycle, provides this: 30A is not excessive even for a deep-cycle. The discharge curves are slightly different, so the voltage drops differently between the two, but not enough to notice. As I said, the difference in this case is the ability to "come back" from a deep discharge. If we were talking about 200A, you'd be right. I've been running the exact motor he's talking about with a small starting battery and have not seen what you describe: it just slowly runs slower as the battery dies, over the course of several hours. Lloyd |
Deep Cycle vs. Trolling Batteries
"Rural Knight" wrote in message ink.net...
wrote in message ... On 20 Aug 2003 00:50:01 -0700, (kcb559) wrote: What is the difference between a Deep Cycle battery and a Trolling battery? I'm buying a Minn Kota Endura 30 electric trolling motor and can't decide on the battery. Even the salesman gives an unsure answer as to the difference between the two. Which one do I buy??? -KCB The difference you want to look at is between a trolling and a starting battery. There are some batteries that even claim to be both. What you want is a deep cycle battery that is specifically designed for trolling. Otherwise your motor will run like a rabbit for about 30 minutes and then taper off quickly. The original question was the difference between a deep cycle and a trolling battery where there is no difference - a deep cycle battery is a trolling battery. The difference between a start battery and a deep cycle battery is that the starting battery has thinner plates allowing for initial high amp discharge, but have zero capacity for long term discharge. Deep cycle batteries are the opposite. Here's a great discussion of batteries. http://uuhome.de/william.darden/ Later, Tom SO, BASICALLY A DEEP CYCLE BATTERY AND A TROLLING BATTERY ARE THE SAME THING AND WILL BOTH LAST ME LONGER (DUE TO THE NUMBER OF RECHARGES AVAILABLE)THAN A STARTING BATTERY; HOWEVER, WITH THAT SMALL ENDURA 30, A STARTING BATTERY WOULD WORK OKAY (ALTHOUGH IT WOULDN'T LAST AS LONG) IF I KEPT THE SPEED DOWN AND DIDN'T ASK IT TO WORK TOO HARD. IS THAT ABOUT IT? -KCB |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:14 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com