Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/19/2006 8:09 AM, Jim wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:

Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini string and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years Festival of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)

Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless they're the
LED type.

No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.

I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could find in
the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was pulling
around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings.
Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp draw with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.

Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200 watts
total.


NO WAY
2.4W.............................................. .................................................. ...

.................................................. .................................................. .........................

.................................................. .................................................. .........................


I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W




You guys need something useful to do. Come on down here. Now that most
of the leaves have fallen off the trees in my woods, and the visibility
is good, I need some fallen timber cut up and hauled. I got 24" and 28"
chain saws, axes, carts, whatever you need.

I wouldn't trust half the characters in here with a dull butter
knife...let alone a 28" chain saw!
I finally got my 8 month old Ranger truck dirty yesterday hauling the
scrap lumber from my deck addition project to a construction debris
site. One more load should make my backyard presentable.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:28:12 GMT, "Jim" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
m...

On 11/19/2006 8:09 AM, Jim wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:


Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini string and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years Festival of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)

Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless they're the
LED type.

No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.


I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could find in
the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was pulling
around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings.
Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp draw with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.

Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200 watts
total.

NO WAY
2.4W.......................................... .................................................. .......
.............................................. .................................................. .............................
.............................................. .................................................. .............................

I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W

You guys need something useful to do. Come on down here. Now that most of
the leaves have fallen off the trees in my woods, and the visibility is
good, I need some fallen timber cut up and hauled. I got 24" and 28" chain
saws, axes, carts, whatever you need.

How can anyone refuse an offer like that?


Agreed. :)

Tom could bring his 'Tree Farmer' to help out.
http://www.equipfind.com/logging/1985TreeFarmerC5D.htm

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:47:58 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/19/2006 10:40 AM, Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/19/2006 8:09 AM, Jim wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:

Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini string and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years Festival of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)
Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless they're the
LED type.
No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.

I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could find in
the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was pulling
around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings.
Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp draw with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.
Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200 watts
total.

NO WAY
2.4W.............................................. .................................................. ...

.................................................. .................................................. .........................

.................................................. .................................................. .........................


I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W



You guys need something useful to do. Come on down here. Now that most
of the leaves have fallen off the trees in my woods, and the visibility
is good, I need some fallen timber cut up and hauled. I got 24" and 28"
chain saws, axes, carts, whatever you need.

I wouldn't trust half the characters in here with a dull butter
knife...let alone a 28" chain saw!
I finally got my 8 month old Ranger truck dirty yesterday hauling the
scrap lumber from my deck addition project to a construction debris
site. One more load should make my backyard presentable.



Come on...imagine "Smithers" with a real chain saw. He's surely cut off
both his legs.

For someone you don't give an *f* about, you sure whine about Reggie a lot.
Have you ever noticed that?

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:19:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/19/2006 11:03 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:47:58 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/19/2006 10:40 AM, Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/19/2006 8:09 AM, Jim wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:

Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini string and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years Festival of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)
Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless they're the
LED type.
No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.

I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could find in
the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was pulling
around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings.
Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp draw with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.
Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200 watts
total.
NO WAY
2.4W.............................................. .................................................. ...

.................................................. .................................................. .........................

.................................................. .................................................. .........................


I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W


You guys need something useful to do. Come on down here. Now that most
of the leaves have fallen off the trees in my woods, and the visibility
is good, I need some fallen timber cut up and hauled. I got 24" and 28"
chain saws, axes, carts, whatever you need.
I wouldn't trust half the characters in here with a dull butter
knife...let alone a 28" chain saw!
I finally got my 8 month old Ranger truck dirty yesterday hauling the
scrap lumber from my deck addition project to a construction debris
site. One more load should make my backyard presentable.


Come on...imagine "Smithers" with a real chain saw. He's surely cut off
both his legs.

For someone you don't give an *f* about, you sure whine about Reggie a lot.
Have you ever noticed that?


Facilitating again, eh?

You needed none. You did quite nicely without!

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:38:03 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/19/2006 11:32 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:19:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/19/2006 11:03 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:47:58 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/19/2006 10:40 AM, Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/19/2006 8:09 AM, Jim wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:

Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini string and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years Festival of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)
Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless they're the
LED type.
No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.

I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could find in
the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was pulling
around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings.
Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp draw with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.
Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200 watts
total.
NO WAY
2.4W.............................................. .................................................. ...

.................................................. .................................................. .........................

.................................................. .................................................. .........................


I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W


You guys need something useful to do. Come on down here. Now that most
of the leaves have fallen off the trees in my woods, and the visibility
is good, I need some fallen timber cut up and hauled. I got 24" and 28"
chain saws, axes, carts, whatever you need.
I wouldn't trust half the characters in here with a dull butter
knife...let alone a 28" chain saw!
I finally got my 8 month old Ranger truck dirty yesterday hauling the
scrap lumber from my deck addition project to a construction debris
site. One more load should make my backyard presentable.

Come on...imagine "Smithers" with a real chain saw. He's surely cut off
both his legs.
For someone you don't give an *f* about, you sure whine about Reggie a lot.
Have you ever noticed that?

Facilitating again, eh?

You needed none. You did quite nicely without!


Not at all. I think "Smithers" is a piece of sh*t. I see no reason to
hold back.

I can't understand why you could feel so strongly about him. He's done
little more than correct some fallacious thinking on your part and tried to
instill in you a little civility.

Be nice.

Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/19/2006 11:32 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:19:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/19/2006 11:03 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:47:58 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

On 11/19/2006 10:40 AM, Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/19/2006 8:09 AM, Jim wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet

wrote:

Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini
string and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years
Festival of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)
Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless
they're the
LED type.
No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.

I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could
find in the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was
pulling around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings.
Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp
draw with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.
Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200
watts
total.
NO WAY
2.4W.............................................. .................................................. ...

.................................................. .................................................. .........................

.................................................. .................................................. .........................


I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W


You guys need something useful to do. Come on down here. Now that
most of the leaves have fallen off the trees in my woods, and the
visibility is good, I need some fallen timber cut up and hauled.
I got 24" and 28" chain saws, axes, carts, whatever you need.
I wouldn't trust half the characters in here with a dull butter
knife...let alone a 28" chain saw!
I finally got my 8 month old Ranger truck dirty yesterday hauling
the scrap lumber from my deck addition project to a construction
debris site. One more load should make my backyard presentable.

Come on...imagine "Smithers" with a real chain saw. He's surely cut
off both his legs.
For someone you don't give an *f* about, you sure whine about Reggie
a lot.
Have you ever noticed that?

Facilitating again, eh?

You needed none. You did quite nicely without!


Not at all. I think "Smithers" is a piece of sh*t. I see no reason to
hold back.
Harry,
It is nice to see you care so much about me. I would hate to think you
didn't care.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:09:48 GMT, "Jim" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:



Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini string and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years Festival of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)

Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless they're the
LED type.

No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.

I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could find in the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was pulling around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings. Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp draw with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.

Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200 watts
total.

NO WAY
2.4W............................................ .................................................. .....
................................................ .................................................. ...........................
................................................ .................................................. ...........................

I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W

Crap - well, don't I look stupid. :)

I took the power analyzer out and took a look - works out to 40.3
watts per 100 mini's.

You're right.

Upon reading the box, the only way I can think of that I came up with
that is that I read it wrong - it's small print, I took off my glasses
to read it. It's 2.5 volts per bulb.

My bad.

I APOLOGISE A THOUSAND TIMES!! I MADE A MISTAKE!!!!

I'M ONLY HUMAN!!! :)

Oh, and the inverter in my truck is 1k watts, not 350.

D'Oh!!!
No need to grovel. Just send one of those el cheapo blanks you are trying to
give away, with some of your winding handiwork and instructions on how to
use the darn thing. What sort of instrument are you using to get such a
precise reading?
Jim (smiley)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:55:02 GMT, "Jim" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
m...
On 11/19/2006 8:28 AM, Jim wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 11/19/2006 8:09 AM, Jim wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet

wrote:

Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini string
and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years Festival
of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)
Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless they're
the
LED type.
No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.

I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could find
in
the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was pulling
around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings.
Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp draw
with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.
Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200 watts
total.
NO WAY
2.4W.............................................. .................................................. ...
.................................................. .................................................. .........................
.................................................. .................................................. .........................

I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W



You guys need something useful to do. Come on down here. Now that most
of the leaves have fallen off the trees in my woods, and the
visibility
is good, I need some fallen timber cut up and hauled. I got 24" and
28"
chain saws, axes, carts, whatever you need.

How can anyone refuse an offer like that?


So, what time will you be here?
Noon

I was thinking more along the lines of the Twelfth of Never.
He asked for the time, not the date. Sheesh.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:30:30 GMT, "Jim" wrote:


No need to grovel. Just send one of those el cheapo blanks you are trying
to
give away, with some of your winding handiwork and instructions on how to
use the darn thing.

I'd be glad to do that for you - sometime over the winter. I'm
running on short time until after Christmas.

What sort of instrument are you using to get such a precise reading?

Fluke bench DMM - a left over from the consulting days.

Measured the current, got an accurate reading on the voltage, applied
Ohm's law.

This Fluke also has a power recording feature, but that was off by 5
watts.


A Fluke? I'll never replace my Simpson 260. The one that has a sticker
on it that says, "US Government Property, Department of the Navy".

Eisboch (now, how the heck did *that* show up in my toolbox?)

Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/19/2006 8:09 AM, Jim wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:25:01 GMT, James Sweet
wrote:

Inverters are rated in watts.

Less than two watts for 100 mini lights.

I ran two six foot Christmas trees, about 5 100 light mini string and
four light strings off a 350 watt inverter at last years Festival of
Lights in Putnam and it didn't even breathe hard.

Have a freakin' ball with the lights. :)

Try closer to 50W for a string of 100 mini lights, unless they're the
LED type.

No way. And just to prove a point, I went out to the garage and
looked on a box of colored mini lights - 150 string.

2.4 watts.

I was a little surprised honestly, but last year I acquired a
power analyzer and ran around plugging in everything I could find in
the
house. The Christmas tree with miniature lights on it was pulling
around
350W, at which point I started checking individual strings.
Incandescent
loads have a unity power factor, so you can measure the amp draw with
any cheap multimeter and use ohms law to calculate the watts.

Interesting - that string I ran on my truck drew less than 200 watts
total.


NO WAY
2.4W.............................................. .................................................. ...

.................................................. .................................................. .........................

.................................................. .................................................. .........................


I just checked a set of icicle lights.
Individual lights =2.5V
Total of 100 lights
Fuse = 3A
No where on the package could I find watts or amps rating.
Measured draw = 300MA or 36 W




You guys need something useful to do. Come on down here. Now that most
of the leaves have fallen off the trees in my woods, and the visibility
is good, I need some fallen timber cut up and hauled. I got 24" and 28"
chain saws, axes, carts, whatever you need.

Are you paying scale?