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Calif Bill November 10th 06 11:11 PM

What is the Barrel for???
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:43:45 GMT, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com"
u25927@uwe wrote:

are for a style he calls the Shpountz.


Which means "barrel on a deck to make curious".


A French designer? Holds white flags.



scbafreak via BoatKB.com November 10th 06 11:18 PM

What is the Barrel for???
 
Calif Bill wrote:
are for a style he calls the Shpountz.


Which means "barrel on a deck to make curious".


A French designer? Holds white flags.


Cheese and little blue scarves maybe some really pretentious wine. It's a
beautiful boat though. Even with a puzzling barrel on deck.

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Eisboch November 10th 06 11:44 PM

What is the Barrel for???
 

"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote in message
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In the old days, of the great sailing ships, water was kept on deck in a
cask for sailors. It was rationed, and was therefore kept under guard.

Perhaps it's a water cask.


I just got some drawings from a designer that happens to have one of these
barrels. The drawins aren't actual build drawings just something to look
at
and help mull over a decision. The barrel seems to be a propane tank but
I
am not entirely sure.

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New theory: Not for propane storage, but maybe an enclosure for a
heating/cabin air cooling system?

http://www.eberspacher.com/marine3.php?section=marine

Eisboch



Chuck Gould November 11th 06 12:22 AM

What is the Barrel for???
 

scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote:


You can clearly see that it is in the drawings. on the deck.




Okay, so now we now that the barrel is immediately above a head and
plumbed to some sort of chase that runs down to the keel. Combination
of a bizarre dorade and ventilation system? You would want something to
provide privacy instead of a direct view through that deck hatch into
the head.

New guess: This works as a dorade for engine room ventilation in
extremely high seas.
The other intakes seem a bit lower to the deck.


Pretty weird.


Chuck Gould November 11th 06 12:24 AM

What is the Barrel for???
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:43:45 GMT, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com"
u25927@uwe wrote:

are for a style he calls the Shpountz.


Which means "barrel on a deck to make curious".


A French designer? Holds white flags.


William Bainbridge was the first American Naval officer ever to
surrender his ship without firing a shot. Back in the 1780's, I think.
Guess who he surrendered to? The French. :-)


Wayne.B November 11th 06 03:39 AM

What is the Barrel for??? (I think we have a winner?)
 
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:36:36 GMT, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com"
u25927@uwe wrote:

Well this isn't exactly an old boat. It was completed in 1994. It has a
water maker onboard so I don;t think they will plan on taking a barrel up a
river to get fresh water. I found the rest of the add that the picture comes
from here.


The barrel might have preceded the water maker or maybe just served as
a backup to the regular tankage. It's difficult for me to imagine any
other purpose unless they used it as a deck locker.


Wayne.B November 11th 06 03:51 AM

What is the Barrel for???
 
On 10 Nov 2006 16:22:10 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Okay, so now we now that the barrel is immediately above a head and
plumbed to some sort of chase that runs down to the keel.


Pressure water system for the owner's shower.

Sun hits barrel, heats water, gravity feeds it below.

Modern plumbing and engineering at work. Who needs electricity?


scbafreak via BoatKB.com November 11th 06 05:19 AM

What is the Barrel for???
 
Wayne.B wrote:
Okay, so now we now that the barrel is immediately above a head and
plumbed to some sort of chase that runs down to the keel.


Pressure water system for the owner's shower.

Sun hits barrel, heats water, gravity feeds it below.

Modern plumbing and engineering at work. Who needs electricity?


I just got a better look at the plans it seems to have a pipe running
straight down the wall on the outside of the head going into a box that I
think is a small heater. It could be an electrical box but it is protrudes
from the wall.

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Eisboch November 11th 06 08:44 AM

What is the Barrel for???
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On 10 Nov 2006 16:22:10 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Okay, so now we now that the barrel is immediately above a head and
plumbed to some sort of chase that runs down to the keel.


Pressure water system for the owner's shower.

Sun hits barrel, heats water, gravity feeds it below.

Modern plumbing and engineering at work. Who needs electricity?


I don't think so. Barrel is the wrong material with wrong emissivity to be
a solar water heater.

Eisboch



Eisboch November 11th 06 08:53 AM

What is the Barrel for???
 

"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
Okay, so now we now that the barrel is immediately above a head and
plumbed to some sort of chase that runs down to the keel.


Pressure water system for the owner's shower.

Sun hits barrel, heats water, gravity feeds it below.

Modern plumbing and engineering at work. Who needs electricity?


I just got a better look at the plans it seems to have a pipe running
straight down the wall on the outside of the head going into a box that I
think is a small heater. It could be an electrical box but it is
protrudes
from the wall.

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That's what I think it is. I found several references to the builder's
yachts being equipped with diesel powered Eberspacher heaters. I am
guessing that the barrel is a weather enclosure.

Eisboch



Wayne.B November 11th 06 06:08 PM

What is the Barrel for???
 
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:44:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Pressure water system for the owner's shower.

Sun hits barrel, heats water, gravity feeds it below.

Modern plumbing and engineering at work. Who needs electricity?


I don't think so. Barrel is the wrong material with wrong emissivity to be
a solar water heater.


I understand your point but just about anything left on deck on a
sunny day gets pretty warm, certainly enough to take the chill off and
make for a nice afternoon shower. You can't really appreciate the
joys of that until you have spent 2 or 3 days sailing offshore without
one.

Those old time boat builders may have been emissivity challenged. :-)

I would concede that the idea of hiding a cabin heater in the barrel
might have some merit also, but the real question is what was the
original purpose in days of olde? I'm still going to bet on extra
tankage.

Calif Bill November 11th 06 08:26 PM

What is the Barrel for???
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:44:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

emissivity


Ok, I'll admit it - I had to look that one up.


Pansy mathematician.



JohnH November 11th 06 09:48 PM

What is the Barrel for???
 
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:08:19 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:44:16 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Pressure water system for the owner's shower.

Sun hits barrel, heats water, gravity feeds it below.

Modern plumbing and engineering at work. Who needs electricity?


I don't think so. Barrel is the wrong material with wrong emissivity to be
a solar water heater.


I understand your point but just about anything left on deck on a
sunny day gets pretty warm, certainly enough to take the chill off and
make for a nice afternoon shower. You can't really appreciate the
joys of that until you have spent 2 or 3 days sailing offshore without
one.

Those old time boat builders may have been emissivity challenged. :-)

I would concede that the idea of hiding a cabin heater in the barrel
might have some merit also, but the real question is what was the
original purpose in days of olde? I'm still going to bet on extra
tankage.


In days of olde, water was kept in casks, below decks. A cask or two was
brought up to the deck for sailors to drink from. As the water was
rationed, a guard was posted at the water cask.

Water was also kept in barrels for swabbing the bores of the guns after
firing, but this was not the fresh, drinking water.

Eisboch November 11th 06 10:11 PM

What is the Barrel for???
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:08:19 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

I would concede that the idea of hiding a cabin heater in the barrel
might have some merit also, but the real question is what was the
original purpose in days of olde? I'm still going to bet on extra
tankage.


Well, I know this - they used to keep water barrels on sailing fishing
ships near the masts on all decks for barrel swabbing purposes.

They weren't in this configuration though.



Another guess ..... some sort of counterweight used when raising the
mainsail?

Eisboch




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