Congratulations to the Dems (I aint no Dem either).

No congratulations are in order. This shouldn't be an us vs. them situation.
Now that the House is under Dem leadership, perhaps some thoughtful
discussion can happen between the two parties. If the Senate goes also, that
will make it even more likely, since the only alternative is gridlock.

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Congratulations to the Dems (I aint no Dem either).

In article , lid
says...
No congratulations are in order. This shouldn't be an us vs. them situation.
Now that the House is under Dem leadership, perhaps some thoughtful
discussion can happen between the two parties. If the Senate goes also, that
will make it even more likely, since the only alternative is gridlock.

Indeed. Congratulations should be extended to the framers for their
check and balance foresight and the American citizenry for exercising
their right to vote their conscience.

We have an opportunity to repair what's gone wrong if the partisanship
can get set aside or at least somewhat muted.

If Bush is demanding and attempts to push politically-motivated
"reforms" such as social security, he'll cement the Ds position as the
preferred party.

jps

One can only hope. While I've certainly been party to strenuous admonitions
about how terrible things have been under Bush (and they have been terrible
IMHO), the bigger picture demands a more measured approach about how we
govern ourselves. The founders had amazing foresight, and this election
proves it.

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In article , lid
says...
No congratulations are in order. This shouldn't be an us vs. them
situation.
Now that the House is under Dem leadership, perhaps some thoughtful
discussion can happen between the two parties. If the Senate goes also,
that
will make it even more likely, since the only alternative is gridlock.

Indeed. Congratulations should be extended to the framers for their
check and balance foresight and the American citizenry for exercising
their right to vote their conscience.

We have an opportunity to repair what's gone wrong if the partisanship
can get set aside or at least somewhat muted.

If Bush is demanding and attempts to push politically-motivated
"reforms" such as social security, he'll cement the Ds position as the
preferred party.

jps

"jps" wrote in message
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In article , lid
says...
No congratulations are in order. This shouldn't be an us vs. them
situation.
Now that the House is under Dem leadership, perhaps some thoughtful
discussion can happen between the two parties. If the Senate goes also,
that
will make it even more likely, since the only alternative is gridlock.

Indeed. Congratulations should be extended to the framers for their
check and balance foresight and the American citizenry for exercising
their right to vote their conscience.

We have an opportunity to repair what's gone wrong if the partisanship
can get set aside or at least somewhat muted.

If Bush is demanding and attempts to push politically-motivated
"reforms" such as social security, he'll cement the Ds position as the
preferred party.

jps

Unfortunately, you picked a reform that is needed. Social Security. Quit
giving all our children's money to the older generation now. SS was never
the national retirement system. Let us hope that Pelosi does not try to be
vinductive, The country wants improvements, not witch hunts.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Unfortunately, you picked a reform that is needed. Social Security. Quit
giving all our children's money to the older generation now. SS was never
the national retirement system. Let us hope that Pelosi does not try to
be vinductive, The country wants improvements, not witch hunts.


It may not be a national retirement system, but it was signed into law by
FDR during the depression to encourage older folks to retire and give up
their jobs to the younger generation. Contrary to some popular belief, it
was never intended to be "temporary".

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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Unfortunately, you picked a reform that is needed. Social Security.
Quit giving all our children's money to the older generation now. SS was
never the national retirement system. Let us hope that Pelosi does not
try to be vinductive, The country wants improvements, not witch hunts.


It may not be a national retirement system, but it was signed into law by
FDR during the depression to encourage older folks to retire and give up
their jobs to the younger generation. Contrary to some popular belief, it
was never intended to be "temporary".

Eisboch


But even FDR said that people needed to have their own savings also. And it
was the "Widows and childrens act" originally to protect those left behind
when the working age person left life behind.

Calif Bill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
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In article , lid
says...
No congratulations are in order. This shouldn't be an us vs. them
situation.
Now that the House is under Dem leadership, perhaps some thoughtful
discussion can happen between the two parties. If the Senate goes also,
that
will make it even more likely, since the only alternative is gridlock.

Indeed. Congratulations should be extended to the framers for their
check and balance foresight and the American citizenry for exercising
their right to vote their conscience.

We have an opportunity to repair what's gone wrong if the partisanship
can get set aside or at least somewhat muted.

If Bush is demanding and attempts to push politically-motivated
"reforms" such as social security, he'll cement the Ds position as the
preferred party.

jps

Unfortunately, you picked a reform that is needed. Social Security. Quit
giving all our children's money to the older generation now. SS was never
the national retirement system. Let us hope that Pelosi does not try to be
vinductive, The country wants improvements, not witch hunts.

I agree, the country needs improvements. The number one improvement
will be snatching the reins of the republicans responsible for the mess
we're in.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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No congratulations are in order. This shouldn't be an us vs. them
situation. Now that the House is under Dem leadership, perhaps some
thoughtful discussion can happen between the two parties. If the Senate
goes also, that will make it even more likely, since the only alternative
is gridlock.

Three observations:

1) The two-party system still works. When the electorate becomes
dissatisfied with the current party in power, it replaces it with the other
one.

2) Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Bush administration lost its
ideological way somewhere along the line. Hopefully congressional oversight
will mean a close examination of issues and dollars, rather than personal
attacks.

3) Sadly the outcome of what could be a productive and constructive
election will likely be bitter party division and bickering. In other
words, nothing new.

Max

I agree. I hope #3 is wrong.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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No congratulations are in order. This shouldn't be an us vs. them
situation. Now that the House is under Dem leadership, perhaps some
thoughtful discussion can happen between the two parties. If the Senate
goes also, that will make it even more likely, since the only alternative
is gridlock.

Three observations:

1) The two-party system still works. When the electorate becomes
dissatisfied with the current party in power, it replaces it with the
other one.

2) Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Bush administration lost its
ideological way somewhere along the line. Hopefully congressional
oversight will mean a close examination of issues and dollars, rather than
personal attacks.

3) Sadly the outcome of what could be a productive and constructive
election will likely be bitter party division and bickering. In other
words, nothing new.

Max