You can put whatever political spin on it you like but the reality is
that if you have a technical skill or a higher education you are much
more likely to avoid being a grunt on the front lines. Even if you do
end up in a branch of the military. Certainly there are those
exceptions that volunteer to serve even though they have the
credentials to avoid being cannon fodder. And hats off to them by all
means. But if you have a computer science degree you are very likely
to work in an operations center, not a patrol unit. And your chances
of taking enemy fire are far less. This issue came up repeatedly in
the vietnam era.

Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..

On 10/31/2006 11:54 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know it's off topic and I apologize, but apparently he believes that
those who serve are dumbasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o




I think he was referring to Dumbya...getting stuck in Iraq.

He may of been, but it doesn't matter. The fact is that many took it as an
insult to those serving in the military ... correctly or not.

If he had any class or brains he would have immediately called a press
conference. clarified his statement and apologized for the misunderstanding.
He has not. In fact he refuses to. Instead, he is blaming the opposition
for using his screw-up to their political advantage.

Regardless of the interpretation of his statement, it was still not
something worthy of a sitting, senior United States senator. It was more
like something you and a few others would post in rec.boats.

I am absolutely disgusted with the behavior of many of our elected "leaders"
... republicans and democrats.

Do you still have your information on Costa Rica? I might be interested.

Eisboch

Making sense has no place in this discussion. Cut it out.


"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
ups.com...
You can put whatever political spin on it you like but the reality is
that if you have a technical skill or a higher education you are much
more likely to avoid being a grunt on the front lines. Even if you do
end up in a branch of the military. Certainly there are those
exceptions that volunteer to serve even though they have the
credentials to avoid being cannon fodder. And hats off to them by all
means. But if you have a computer science degree you are very likely
to work in an operations center, not a patrol unit. And your chances
of taking enemy fire are far less. This issue came up repeatedly in
the vietnam era.

Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..

On 10/31/2006 11:54 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I know it's off topic and I apologize, but apparently he believes that
those who serve are dumbasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o




I think he was referring to Dumbya...getting stuck in Iraq.

He may of been, but it doesn't matter. The fact is that many took it as
an
insult to those serving in the military ... correctly or not.

If he had any class or brains he would have immediately called a press
conference. clarified his statement and apologized for the
misunderstanding.
He has not. In fact he refuses to. Instead, he is blaming the opposition
for using his screw-up to their political advantage.

Regardless of the interpretation of his statement, it was still not
something worthy of a sitting, senior United States senator. It was more
like something you and a few others would post in rec.boats.

I am absolutely disgusted with the behavior of many of our elected
"leaders"
... republicans and democrats.

Do you still have your information on Costa Rica? I might be interested.

Eisboch

On 1 Nov 2006 06:37:49 -0800, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

You can put whatever political spin on it you like but the reality is
that if you have a technical skill or a higher education you are much
more likely to avoid being a grunt on the front lines. Even if you do
end up in a branch of the military. Certainly there are those
exceptions that volunteer to serve even though they have the
credentials to avoid being cannon fodder. And hats off to them by all
means. But if you have a computer science degree you are very likely
to work in an operations center, not a patrol unit. And your chances
of taking enemy fire are far less. This issue came up repeatedly in
the vietnam era.

He put no 'front line', 'grunt', 'Infantry', or other limits on his
proclamation. He put no limits on his proclamation calling us 'baby
killers' and 'rapists' when he returned from Vietnam.

He spoke his feelings.

JohnH wrote:
On 1 Nov 2006 06:37:49 -0800, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

You can put whatever political spin on it you like but the reality is
that if you have a technical skill or a higher education you are much
more likely to avoid being a grunt on the front lines. Even if you do
end up in a branch of the military. Certainly there are those
exceptions that volunteer to serve even though they have the
credentials to avoid being cannon fodder. And hats off to them by all
means. But if you have a computer science degree you are very likely
to work in an operations center, not a patrol unit. And your chances
of taking enemy fire are far less. This issue came up repeatedly in
the vietnam era.

He put no 'front line', 'grunt', 'Infantry', or other limits on his
proclamation. He put no limits on his proclamation calling us 'baby
killers' and 'rapists' when he returned from Vietnam.

Are you denying that those things didn't happen in Vietnam??
And for what it's worth, he didn't ever call any and everybody in
military uniform in Vietnam "baby killers and rapists".