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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I'd be willing to bet that drinking alcohol kills a hell of a lot more
people than cigars do.


Tom,
As a former smoker I always thought smoking was an enjoyable, filthy,
unhealthy habit. I understood non smokers who did not want to smell or
inhale 2nd hand smoke. Since the mid 80's I only smoked outside and tried
to make sure it was not blowing towards non smokers.

Even if 2nd hand smoke was not proven to unhealthy, the smell alone is
offensive to non cigar smokers, even cigarette smokers.


old soldiers never die; they just fade away


..... in a puff of smoke.

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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:

When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.



My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.

When you were 2?

Eisboch

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:02:38 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

If you going to smoke, smoke an Altria brand. Filthy habit, but I enjoy
the
dividends.

Filthy habits are drinking to excess and endangering innocent lives.

I'd be willing to bet that drinking alcohol kills a hell of a lot more
people than cigars do.
--
I'll bet you're wrong.

By the way, you can't partition off just cigars, unless you do the same
with alcohol, like compare cigar related deaths to, say, gin related
deaths.

http://tiki.oneworld.net/pollution/smoking.html

says that 434,000 people die each year from smoking in the U.S and
60,000 die each year from second hand smoke.

Then this site puts alcohol deaths at 100,000:

http://www.bookmark-manager.com/permalink-41


And I think they are full of it, to claim 60k deaths from second hand smoke.
If that was true, you would have a heck of a lot more than 434k dead from
direct injection. I one of those numbers that activitists can throw out and
feel good, and hard to prove otherwise.

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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:
When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.


My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.

When you were 2?

Eisboch



I too was perfect from birth.

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:

When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.



My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.

When you were 2?

Eisboch


What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at that
age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no crying and
screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work around. We knew
when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid taking him out at
those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the pattern.

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:02:38 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

If you going to smoke, smoke an Altria brand. Filthy habit, but I enjoy
the dividends.

Filthy habits are drinking to excess and endangering innocent lives.

I'd be willing to bet that drinking alcohol kills a hell of a lot more
people than cigars do.
Tom,
As a former smoker I always thought smoking was an enjoyable, filthy,
unhealthy habit. I understood non smokers who did not want to smell or
inhale 2nd hand smoke. Since the mid 80's I only smoked outside and tried
to make sure it was not blowing towards non smokers.

Even if 2nd hand smoke was not proven to unhealthy, the smell alone is
offensive to non cigar smokers, even cigarette smokers.


Even if smoking is deadly, it is a free choice item. I can and do enjoy it
being banned from the workplace and bars and dining establishments here in
California. But this is supposed to be a free country. If you want to
smoke in your house, or car, you should be able to. Ballot measure this
election to put a $2.60 tax per pack of ciggies. F'n do gooders. They say
it will cut smoking, and 80% will go to hospitals for payment of healthcare
costs. It is still some fanatic group enforcing their mores on another
group. Short Wave is a health care basket case from what I understand, but
it is his choice to smoke. I used to race cars, also can be unhealthy, but
it is still an action of free (well expensive) choice.

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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:

When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.



My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.

When you were 2?

Eisboch


What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at that
age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no crying and
screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work around. We knew
when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid taking him out at
those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the pattern.


I see.

Eisboch

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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:
When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.

My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.
When you were 2?

Eisboch

What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at that
age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no crying and
screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work around. We knew
when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid taking him out at
those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the pattern.


I see.

Eisboch


Eishoch,

Did I mention that my 3 kids were perfect also?

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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On 10/28/2006 10:35 AM, JimH wrote:

When our kids were young and we went out to eat we would hire a
babysitter. It was a nice escape from the kids for us and we did not
subject the folks in the restaurant to a screaming baby or toddler.



My father expected me to behave properly in a restaurant, so I did.

When you were 2?

Eisboch


What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at that
age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no crying and
screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work around. We knew
when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid taking him out at
those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the pattern.


Maybe you just did not notice it. When I am in an upscale restaurant for a
later evening meal that is costing me in the range of a $100 I do not want
someone's child inflicted on me. I paid for babysitters when they were
young and there are appropriate places to take you child to for dinner, but
not at 9 pm and the Carnelian room.

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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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What's so odd about that? My son caused no problems in restaurants at
that age. He yacked a lot, but he was rarely loud. No tantrums, no
crying and screaming. But, his nap vs fun schedule was easy to work
around. We knew when he normally got tired & cranky, and tried to avoid
taking him out at those times. Some parents are too dumb to spot the
pattern.


I see.

Eisboch
Eishoch,

Did I mention that my 3 kids were perfect also?


Perfect parents with perfect kids. What's this world coming to ....?

Eisboch