leave it be.

An 81 year old man survived a stingray attack in Fla. yesterday:


LIGHTHOUSE POINT, Florida (Oct. 19) - An 81-year-old man was in
critical condition Thursday after a stingray flopped onto his boat and
stung him, leaving a foot-long barb in his chest similar to the
accident that killed "Crocodile Hunter" Steve Irwin.


"It was a freak accident," said Lighthouse Point acting fire Chief
David Donzella. "It's very odd that the thing jumped out of the water
and stung him. We still can't believe it."

Fatal stingray attacks like the one that killed Irwin last month at the
Great Barrier Reef are rare, marine experts say. Rays reflexively
deploy a sharp spine in their tails when frightened, but the venom
coating the barb usually causes just a painful sting for humans.

James Bertakis of Lighthouse Point was on the water with his
granddaughter and a friend Wednesday when a stingray flopped onto the
boat and stung Bertakis. The women steered the boat to shore and called
emergency services.


Doctors were able to remove the barb during surgeries Wednesday and
Thursday by eventually pulling it through his heart and closing the
wound, said Dr. Eugene Costantini at Broward General Medical Center.

He said Bertakis' case was different from Irwin's because the barb
stayed in Bertakis' heart and was not pulled out. Videotape of Irwin's
last moments shows him pulling the barb from his chest.

Bertakis was apparently trying to remove the three-foot-wide spotted
eagle ray from the boat when he was stung, police Cmdr. Mike Oh said.

Ellen Pikitch, a professor of marine biology and fisheries at the
University of Miami, who has been studying stingrays for decades, said
they are generally docile.

"Something like this is really, really extraordinarily rare," she said.
"Even when they are under duress, they don't usually attack."

wrote:

He was trying to pick up the ray and get it overboard. Why is it so
hard to remember where the barb is?
When you pick up a ray, stick your fingers in the holes behind the
eyes and pick it up like a bowling ball. You don't have to get close
to the barb that way.

Or better yet...use your ore.

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When you pick up a ray, stick your fingers in the holes behind the
eyes and pick it up like a bowling ball. You don't have to get close
to the barb that way.

What do those 2 holes normally do.

-W (assuming they aren't there just to pick up the fish)

wrote

Or better yet...use your ore.


They we're on a boat, not an Ore Carrier. UD

Clams Canino wrote:
wrote in message
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When you pick up a ray, stick your fingers in the holes behind the
eyes and pick it up like a bowling ball. You don't have to get close
to the barb that way.

What do those 2 holes normally do.

-W (assuming they aren't there just to pick up the fish)



Gill Flaps

(Clams*Canino) wrote
When you pick up a ray, stick your fingers in the holes behind the eyes
and pick it up like a bowling ball. You don't have to get close to the
barb that way.


What do those 2 holes normally do.
-W (assuming they aren't there just to pick up the fish)


Gills? UD

Clams Canino wrote:
wrote in message
...

When you pick up a ray, stick your fingers in the holes behind the
eyes and pick it up like a bowling ball. You don't have to get close
to the barb that way.

What do those 2 holes normally do.

-W (assuming they aren't there just to pick up the fish)


Clams,

I assume they're the same as they are with the skates I used to see
while diving in New England. When they wanted to 'hide' while on
bottom, they would apparently blow water downward to stir up the sand
under them and the pressure would blow the sand up out of the two holes
like volcanoes, and drop the sand back all over them. Pretty cool to see.

-Jim