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I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure why but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's the
compact shape?


Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6


Do you ever get sick of being wrong?


Show me. Or shut up.

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I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure why
but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's the
compact shape?

Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6


Do you ever get sick of being wrong?


Show me. Or shut up.


The problem is you have it backwards. A typical Nissan V6 engine
(3.3-liter SOHC 12-valve) has a bore of 3.602 inches and a stroke of
3.268 inches. This is called "over square" and is typical of high reving,
low torque engines.

Eisboch


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CR wrote:
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I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure why
but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's the
compact shape?

Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6

Do you ever get sick of being wrong?


Show me. Or shut up.


The problem is you have it backwards. A typical Nissan V6 engine
(3.3-liter SOHC 12-valve) has a bore of 3.602 inches and a stroke of
3.268 inches. This is called "over square" and is typical of high reving,
low torque engines.

Eisboch


With the Nissan, yes. but not typically. 170 slant six had a bore of
3.40 inches and a stroke of 3.125.

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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure why
but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's the
compact shape?

Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6


Do you ever get sick of being wrong?


Show me. Or shut up.


Torque is relative to crank throw- longer stroke = more torque, not less as
you've stated.

Now will you shut up?


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CR wrote:
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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure why
but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's the
compact shape?

Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6

Do you ever get sick of being wrong?


Show me. Or shut up.


Torque is relative to crank throw- longer stroke = more torque, not less as
you've stated.

Now will you shut up? Hmm, so I take it that you think torque is relative to ONLY stroke?? Are you REALLY saying that?




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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure why
but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's the
compact shape?

Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the
relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern
V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6

Do you ever get sick of being wrong?

Show me. Or shut up.


Torque is relative to crank throw- longer stroke = more torque, not less
as
you've stated.

Now will you shut up? Hmm, so I take it that you think torque is relative
to ONLY stroke?? Are you REALLY saying that?



Everything else being equal (# cylinders, displacement)- yes.



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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure why
but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's the
compact shape?

Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the
relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern
V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6

Do you ever get sick of being wrong?

Show me. Or shut up.


Torque is relative to crank throw- longer stroke = more torque, not less
as
you've stated.

Now will you shut up? Hmm, so I take it that you think torque is relative
to ONLY stroke?? Are you REALLY saying that?



Everything else being equal (# cylinders, displacement)- yes.


Now that's just a plain stupid answer!

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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure
why
but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's
the
compact shape?

Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the
relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern
V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer
stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6

Do you ever get sick of being wrong?

Show me. Or shut up.


Torque is relative to crank throw- longer stroke = more torque, not
less
as
you've stated.

Now will you shut up? Hmm, so I take it that you think torque is
relative
to ONLY stroke?? Are you REALLY saying that?


Everything else being equal (# cylinders, displacement)- yes.


Now that's just a plain stupid answer!


How so brain sturgeon?


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CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

CR wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

I haven't encountered many good V6 engines, I'm not really sure
why
but
they seem to be much less robust than inline 6's, perhaps it's
the
compact shape?

Depends on where in the power band. Inlines, because of the
relatively
short stroke, and big bores, have a lot of low end torque. Modern
V6's
on the other hand, because of the configuration, are longer
stroke,
smaller bore. Top end torque. Nissan makes a bitchin' V6

Do you ever get sick of being wrong?

Show me. Or shut up.


Torque is relative to crank throw- longer stroke = more torque, not
less
as
you've stated.

Now will you shut up? Hmm, so I take it that you think torque is
relative
to ONLY stroke?? Are you REALLY saying that?


Everything else being equal (# cylinders, displacement)- yes.


Now that's just a plain stupid answer!


How so brain sturgeon?


I'm not a brain surgeon. But, since I suppose you aren't even bright
enough to realize how stupid your answer was, I'll dumb down my
response so that you MIGHT understand it. Of course if the ONLY
variable you wish to change is stroke, then of course it would change
the torque. BUT, now try to hang in there, if you changed the bore, the
torque would also change. The real measurement would be to change the
stroke AND bore to keep the same displacement.

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