I'm going to do my best to talk my wife into the 268 hp Toyota Camry.



Doesn't do much good to try and talk a woman into anything when it comes
to cars. Based on my own experience, I'd offer her my advice, then let
her make her own decision, it's her car afterall and if you talk her
into something else you're sure to hear every little nag she has about
it for as long as she owns it and maybe longer. It isn't easy but I've
gotten a lot closer to accepting that the average person is not a
gearhead like me, they don't know or care what goes on under the hood,
and pick a car almost exclusively based on how it looks. Completely
opposite from myself but whatever.

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I'm going to do my best to talk my wife into the 268 hp Toyota Camry.



Doesn't do much good to try and talk a woman into anything when it comes
to cars. Based on my own experience, I'd offer her my advice, then let her
make her own decision, it's her car afterall and if you talk her into
something else you're sure to hear every little nag she has about it for
as long as she owns it and maybe longer. It isn't easy but I've gotten a
lot closer to accepting that the average person is not a gearhead like me,
they don't know or care what goes on under the hood, and pick a car almost
exclusively based on how it looks. Completely opposite from myself but
whatever.

Mrs.E. sent me out to get her a car a couple of years ago while we were in
Florida. She had a small car and was getting intimidated by large trucks. I
asked her what she wanted and she told me to "surprise" her ... she just
wanted something a little bit bigger and with room to carry stuff.

So, I bought her a BMW X5. She hated it. She backed it into my truck,
backed it into my boat trailer and backed it into a tree. Then she got
backed into by a Federal Express semi and that was the end of it.

Eisboch

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I'm going to do my best to talk my wife into the 268 hp Toyota Camry.



Doesn't do much good to try and talk a woman into anything when it comes
to cars. Based on my own experience, I'd offer her my advice, then let
her make her own decision, it's her car afterall and if you talk her into
something else you're sure to hear every little nag she has about it for
as long as she owns it and maybe longer. It isn't easy but I've gotten a
lot closer to accepting that the average person is not a gearhead like
me, they don't know or care what goes on under the hood, and pick a car
almost exclusively based on how it looks. Completely opposite from myself
but whatever.

Mrs.E. sent me out to get her a car a couple of years ago while we were in
Florida. She had a small car and was getting intimidated by large trucks.
I asked her what she wanted and she told me to "surprise" her ... she just
wanted something a little bit bigger and with room to carry stuff.

So, I bought her a BMW X5. She hated it. She backed it into my truck,
backed it into my boat trailer and backed it into a tree. Then she got
backed into by a Federal Express semi and that was the end of it.

Eisboch


Never drove the M5, but looks like it is one of those cars where the
visibility to the back sux.

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So, I bought her a BMW X5. She hated it. She backed it into my truck,
backed it into my boat trailer and backed it into a tree. Then she got
backed into by a Federal Express semi and that was the end of it.

Eisboch


Never drove the M5, but looks like it is one of those cars where the
visibility to the back sux.


It does. Bad blind spots. Other than that, it's a great vechicle except it
shares a common BMW problem. There are so many electronic devices running
even with the engine off that the batteries go dead if you don't drive them
for a month or so.
They should supply a battery maintainer with every BMW or build them into
the car and tell you to plug it in if you are going on vacation.

Maybe this is true with all cars now-a-days ... I don't know. My F-350
Powerstroke can sit for months and it always starts, but it has two, big
honkin' batteries in it.

Eisboch

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So, I bought her a BMW X5. She hated it. She backed it into my truck,
backed it into my boat trailer and backed it into a tree. Then she got
backed into by a Federal Express semi and that was the end of it.

Eisboch


Never drove the M5, but looks like it is one of those cars where the
visibility to the back sux.


It does. Bad blind spots. Other than that, it's a great vechicle except it
shares a common BMW problem. There are so many electronic devices running
even with the engine off that the batteries go dead if you don't drive them
for a month or so.
They should supply a battery maintainer with every BMW or build them into
the car and tell you to plug it in if you are going on vacation.

Maybe this is true with all cars now-a-days ... I don't know. My F-350
Powerstroke can sit for months and it always starts, but it has two, big
honkin' batteries in it.

Eisboch



I'm not sure what you mean by continuing to rave. They write up a test
comparison of a set of vehicles, medium family sedans, for example. One car
comes out on top, or maybe there's a tie. Then, the next month, they're
rating something else. They've never, in my experience, continued to rave
about an auto after posting that year's test results.

Now for a serious topic: Which floorplan did you get on your Plateau?
Here's a site with the current floorplans. (Although you'll have to click
on models and then floorplans to see them.

http://www.pleasureway.com/

Also, if you don't mind, why did you choose the floorplan you did? Having
had yours for a while, what options would you not have bought or wish you
would have bought?

Thanks.

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Now for a serious topic: Which floorplan did you get on your Plateau?
Here's a site with the current floorplans. (Although you'll have to click
on models and then floorplans to see them.

http://www.pleasureway.com/

Also, if you don't mind, why did you choose the floorplan you did? Having
had yours for a while, what options would you not have bought or wish you
would have bought?

Thanks.

We have the TS floorplan. (middle one). We liked it because the couch/bed
can be made up as one large, almost king-sized bed or two twin-sized. When
not a bed this configuration provides two additional seats besides the
couch. The T3 looks interesting but it was not available when we got ours.
The only drawback I can see is the third seat takes away more of the limited
storage area.

If I were buying again I'd check for the availablilty of a diesel generator
rather than the propane one. We don't use it that often, but obviously the
diesel would have more fuel capacity. Everything else, I'd leave as is.
Ours has the remote camera, awning, and a few other options. Oh ... the
"entertainment center" in the rear consists of a LCD flat screen monitor/TV
and a CD/DVD player. It would be nice if it also had radio. The radio
mounted in the dash is not all that great.

These things are set up nice, but storage space is very limited compared to
bigger motorhomes. There's enough room to carry stuff for a long weekend,
but that's about it. Then again, it's not much bigger than driving a pickup
truck, so going to the food store for supplies isn't a big deal. We bought
a small Haulmark trailer that I have modified and set up to carry more
"stuff" in the event we go anywhere for any extended amount of time.

We haven't used it a lot, although we did go camping with the rest of the
family last weekend and had a good time. The nights were cold but the
furnace had no difficulty keeping the camper warm. Oh ... I also bought a
1.5" thick memory foam topper for the bed. Makes all the difference in the
world. The regular "egg crate" type topper is not the same. I also just
discovered that it has adjustable air bladders in the rear suspension. The
air fill lines are located just below the trailer hitch, one on each side.
I have to read up on them. Truth is, I haven't read "any" of the owner's
manual yet.

Eisboch

Calif Bill wrote:

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I'm going to do my best to talk my wife into the 268 hp Toyota Camry.



Doesn't do much good to try and talk a woman into anything when it comes
to cars. Based on my own experience, I'd offer her my advice, then let
her make her own decision, it's her car afterall and if you talk her into
something else you're sure to hear every little nag she has about it for
as long as she owns it and maybe longer. It isn't easy but I've gotten a
lot closer to accepting that the average person is not a gearhead like
me, they don't know or care what goes on under the hood, and pick a car
almost exclusively based on how it looks. Completely opposite from myself
but whatever.

Mrs.E. sent me out to get her a car a couple of years ago while we were in
Florida. She had a small car and was getting intimidated by large trucks.
I asked her what she wanted and she told me to "surprise" her ... she just
wanted something a little bit bigger and with room to carry stuff.

So, I bought her a BMW X5. She hated it. She backed it into my truck,
backed it into my boat trailer and backed it into a tree. Then she got
backed into by a Federal Express semi and that was the end of it.

Eisboch



Never drove the M5, but looks like it is one of those cars where the
visibility to the back sux.



Not if you are always looking ahead!

Visibility is no worse than a Jeep GC.