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Alotta Fagina wrote:
... where ARE the hurricanes that the psychotic nutballs tell anyone who
will fund them are coming because you drive an SUV? Ernesto was a bust and
there wasn't a single other storm to even make a blip in the media.


Damn, you ARE dumber than a post, huh?

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Alotta Fagina wrote:
... where ARE the hurricanes that the psychotic nutballs tell anyone who
will fund them are coming because you drive an SUV? Ernesto was a bust
and
there wasn't a single other storm to even make a blip in the media.


Damn, you ARE dumber than a post, huh?

Actually it's not a dumb question, maybe a little confrontational.

There are two theories proposed to explain the lack of predicted hurricanes.

1) Dust from Africa affect the formation of hurricanes in the Atlantic.

2) Seems that there are self correcting processes related to global warming.
The deep ocean temperature has decreased .05 degrees in the last two years.
That's a massive cool-off as the trend has been for deep ocean temps to go
up a small amount each year for the last forty. One theory is that the
hurricanes and cloud cover itself generated by the warmer waters of the
Atlantic actually cool the ocean. You take a major storm system that pulls
warm moisture off the oceans surface, takes it up to the upper atmosphere
and cools it then dumps this cooled water back onto the ocean surface as
rain and we have a system that corrects for global warming of ocean water.

This means one more system to add to the model.


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2) Seems that there are self correcting processes related to global warming.
The deep ocean temperature has decreased .05 degrees in the last two years.
That's a massive cool-off as the trend has been for deep ocean temps to go
up a small amount each year for the last forty. One theory is that the
hurricanes and cloud cover itself generated by the warmer waters of the
Atlantic actually cool the ocean. You take a major storm system that pulls
warm moisture off the oceans surface, takes it up to the upper atmosphere
and cools it then dumps this cooled water back onto the ocean surface as
rain and we have a system that corrects for global warming of ocean water.


Perhaps not, it's a complex system that we don't completely understand,
but that deep water cooling may not be a correction for global warming, it
might be a symptom.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/st...654803,00.html
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Alotta Fagina wrote:
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deep water cooling may not be a correction for global warming, it
might be a symptom.


Cooling equals warming.
Ignorance equals knowledge.
Weakness equals strength.
All pigs are equal. Except environmental extremist psychos are ****ing
morons. Thanks for the proof.


Damn you are stupid!!!

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2) Seems that there are self correcting processes related to global
warming.
The deep ocean temperature has decreased .05 degrees in the last two
years.
That's a massive cool-off as the trend has been for deep ocean temps to
go
up a small amount each year for the last forty. One theory is that the
hurricanes and cloud cover itself generated by the warmer waters of the
Atlantic actually cool the ocean. You take a major storm system that
pulls
warm moisture off the oceans surface, takes it up to the upper atmosphere
and cools it then dumps this cooled water back onto the ocean surface as
rain and we have a system that corrects for global warming of ocean
water.


Perhaps not, it's a complex system that we don't completely understand,
but that deep water cooling may not be a correction for global warming, it
might be a symptom.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/st...654803,00.html


True, it may be a symptom but there is entropy and it takes energy to
generate a storm and that energy is temp difference and the system that
transfers the energy from the higher energy areas to the lower energy areas
requires energy to run, thus cooling. That's an absolute!




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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 05:29:51 -0400, Jeff Rigby wrote:


2) Seems that there are self correcting processes related to global
warming.
The deep ocean temperature has decreased .05 degrees in the last two
years.
That's a massive cool-off as the trend has been for deep ocean temps to
go
up a small amount each year for the last forty. One theory is that the
hurricanes and cloud cover itself generated by the warmer waters of the
Atlantic actually cool the ocean. You take a major storm system that
pulls
warm moisture off the oceans surface, takes it up to the upper atmosphere
and cools it then dumps this cooled water back onto the ocean surface as
rain and we have a system that corrects for global warming of ocean
water.


Perhaps not, it's a complex system that we don't completely understand,
but that deep water cooling may not be a correction for global warming, it
might be a symptom.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/st...654803,00.html


Might be but then the trend wouldn't change as FAST as it has. The change
has occurred within two years without an indication of change before this.

Also, if change in gulfstream speed were the factor then there would a large
temperature gradient when comparing temp vs. latitude. With higher latitude
deep water temps being MUCH colder. I'm assuming that the temp was sampled
along a line of varying latitudes and the temp was down along the line for
an average of .05 colder.


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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 05:29:51 -0400, Jeff Rigby wrote:


2) Seems that there are self correcting processes related to global
warming.
The deep ocean temperature has decreased .05 degrees in the last two
years.
That's a massive cool-off as the trend has been for deep ocean temps to
go
up a small amount each year for the last forty. One theory is that the
hurricanes and cloud cover itself generated by the warmer waters of the
Atlantic actually cool the ocean. You take a major storm system that
pulls
warm moisture off the oceans surface, takes it up to the upper atmosphere
and cools it then dumps this cooled water back onto the ocean surface as
rain and we have a system that corrects for global warming of ocean
water.


Perhaps not, it's a complex system that we don't completely understand,
but that deep water cooling may not be a correction for global warming, it
might be a symptom.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/st...654803,00.html

I'm betting against global warming and increased hurricane frequency and
strength. I"m betting 300 thousand. I elected to remove wind coverage from
my building thus saving $4000/year.


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