"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
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Alotta Fagina wrote:


Miami is not a red blob. It wasn't even a red blob during the "Scarface"
era. So if what you pointed to falls under the heading of "visual
representation", then it is a ****ty representation.

Not that I'd expect different from you.

If you would not call this a "picture" what would you call it?

I definitely not a liberal, so politics has nothing to do with it, but
this is a visual representation of the "light pollution" in the US. Hence
it is a "picture". One may argue that "light pollution" is not a problem,
but the expression "light pollution" is a standard term for light that
reduces your ability to see the stars and the universe. It is very
important to astronomers.

Would you call this painting a "picture"?

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Number..._i1106615_.htm

The definition "picture" includes abstract paintings.

I can't figure out if you really don't understand the definition of
"picture' or you are just tweaking Bassy. Since you find Bass such a
idiot why don't you filter him? To argue over the standard definition
"picture" really makes you look foolish instead of Bass.

It's possible he means that only a literal representation is a picture, like
a photograph. However, as Ansel Adams pointed out repeatedly, even the most
accurate photograph is merely an interpretation, just like an oil painting.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Alotta Fagina wrote:

Miami is not a red blob. It wasn't even a red blob during the "Scarface"
era. So if what you pointed to falls under the heading of "visual
representation", then it is a ****ty representation.

Not that I'd expect different from you.
If you would not call this a "picture" what would you call it?

I definitely not a liberal, so politics has nothing to do with it, but
this is a visual representation of the "light pollution" in the US. Hence
it is a "picture". One may argue that "light pollution" is not a problem,
but the expression "light pollution" is a standard term for light that
reduces your ability to see the stars and the universe. It is very
important to astronomers.

Would you call this painting a "picture"?

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Number..._i1106615_.htm

The definition "picture" includes abstract paintings.

I can't figure out if you really don't understand the definition of
"picture' or you are just tweaking Bassy. Since you find Bass such a
idiot why don't you filter him? To argue over the standard definition
"picture" really makes you look foolish instead of Bass.

It's possible he means that only a literal representation is a picture, like
a photograph. However, as Ansel Adams pointed out repeatedly, even the most
accurate photograph is merely an interpretation, just like an oil painting.


Ansel was a master of manipulating the development of photographs to
achieve the result he wanted.

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..


It's possible he means that only a literal representation is a picture,
like a photograph. However, as Ansel Adams pointed out repeatedly, even
the most accurate photograph is merely an interpretation, just like an
oil painting.
Ansel was a master of manipulating the development of photographs to
achieve the result he wanted.

Really?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..


It's possible he means that only a literal representation is a picture,
like a photograph. However, as Ansel Adams pointed out repeatedly, even
the most accurate photograph is merely an interpretation, just like an
oil painting.
Ansel was a master of manipulating the development of photographs to
achieve the result he wanted.

Really?


I am sure you already know this, but others may not :
Ansel Adams and Fred Archer are credited with creating the zone system, a
technique which allows photographers to translate the light they see into
specific densities on negatives and paper, thus giving them better control
over finished photographs. Adams also pioneered the idea of visualization
(which he often called 'previsualization', though he later acknowledged
that
term to be a redundancy) of the finished print based upon the measured
light
values in the scene being photographed.
The zone system is a unique approach to film exposure and development
invented
by Ansel Adams and Fred Archer in 1939 or 1940. The zone system provides
photographers
with a systematic method of precisely defining the relationship between
the way they
see the photographic subject and the results they achieve in their
finished works.
In a sense, the zone system plays the same role that color management
does for
digital photographers. It allows for a direct correlation between the
visual world
and the final photographic print."

from Wikipedia.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Alotta Fagina wrote:

Miami is not a red blob. It wasn't even a red blob during the "Scarface"
era. So if what you pointed to falls under the heading of "visual
representation", then it is a ****ty representation.

Not that I'd expect different from you.
If you would not call this a "picture" what would you call it?

I definitely not a liberal, so politics has nothing to do with it, but
this is a visual representation of the "light pollution" in the US. Hence
it is a "picture". One may argue that "light pollution" is not a problem,
but the expression "light pollution" is a standard term for light that
reduces your ability to see the stars and the universe. It is very
important to astronomers.

Would you call this painting a "picture"?

http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Number..._i1106615_.htm

The definition "picture" includes abstract paintings.

I can't figure out if you really don't understand the definition of
"picture' or you are just tweaking Bassy. Since you find Bass such a
idiot why don't you filter him? To argue over the standard definition
"picture" really makes you look foolish instead of Bass.

It's possible he means that only a literal representation is a picture, like
a photograph. However, as Ansel Adams pointed out repeatedly, even the most
accurate photograph is merely an interpretation, just like an oil painting.


Ansel was a master of manipulating the development of photographs to
achieve the result he wanted.

Absolutely! In my opinion, the best B&W photographer ever. I've been to
many places in the Sierra's that he's photographed, with a book with
copies of his paintings to compare. Amazing.