Steve, unfortunately you may not have bought it cheap in absolute
terms, but it is certainly the most cheaply manufactured canoe known to
Americans, and it is about the cheapest in relative terms, here.

But, having said that (and absent matters of detail like the seats, of
which I've heard nothing) the Coleman turns out to be one of the most
durable canoes on the American market.

When people say, with respect to Coleman (and, I guess, now, Pelikan),
that "you get what you pay for", they are generally speaking of
performance characteristics, which are abysmal. But the thing really
shouldn't be coming apart on you after only two years. I hope you
succeed in getting the seats replaced.

-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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Steve B. wrote:
wrote in message
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riverman wrote:
"Steve B." wrote in message
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Hmm, someone come to Coleman's defense now, and tell us how they aren't
really the piece of crap that people say they are.

Coleman canoes are definitely the "Walmart" of canoes, but they do
float, and that's THE most important feature of a canoe. You can't deny
that.

You get what you pay for, yano? You want an excellent high-quality
canoe with top warranty and after-sale support, ya gotta pay for it.
When you shop for the bargain basement price, you're gonna get what you
pay for.

Better to be in a boat on the water than standing on the shore wishing,
yano? ;-)

John Kuthe...

http://www.lauche-maas.de/suche_seit...toffboote.html

785 Euros / US$1000 is cheap?

Steve B.

"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message
ups.com...
Steve, unfortunately you may not have bought it cheap in absolute
terms, but it is certainly the most cheaply manufactured canoe known to
Americans, and it is about the cheapest in relative terms, here.

But, having said that (and absent matters of detail like the seats, of
which I've heard nothing) the Coleman turns out to be one of the most
durable canoes on the American market.


Beg pardon? Durable only if you don't bump rocks, have a snowbank form on it
or drop it off your roofrack. Any canoe will be 'durable' if not subjected
to stresses, but Coleman's are notorious for having their aluminum skeletons
warp out of shape when subjected to forces that other boats rebound from.

--riverman

riverman wrote:
"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message
ups.com...
Steve, unfortunately you may not have bought it cheap in absolute
terms, but it is certainly the most cheaply manufactured canoe known to
Americans, and it is about the cheapest in relative terms, here.

But, having said that (and absent matters of detail like the seats, of
which I've heard nothing) the Coleman turns out to be one of the most
durable canoes on the American market.


Beg pardon? Durable only if you don't bump rocks, have a snowbank form on it
or drop it off your roofrack. Any canoe will be 'durable' if not subjected
to stresses, but Coleman's are notorious for having their aluminum skeletons
warp out of shape when subjected to forces that other boats rebound from.

--riverman