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[email protected] September 22nd 06 09:03 PM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan


JoeSpareBedroom September 22nd 06 09:08 PM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 
wrote in message
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How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan


Can you imagine being the trash collector who opens that can after some
sharp object pierces the bag. Does that answer your question?
Sheeeesh....these guys have a hard enough job.



JimH September 22nd 06 10:03 PM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(


Yep.


o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?



NO! Do you take a crap in your garbage can? What is the difference?



Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan




Stanley Barthfarkle September 22nd 06 10:48 PM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?



Come back and tell us all about what happens when the bucket tips over and
fills the boat with fun stuff.



Chuck Gould September 22nd 06 10:51 PM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan


Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the
USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you
literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in
trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances
in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you
"discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that
if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it
isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only
fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly
involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded
areas.


Dan September 22nd 06 10:58 PM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan


Take a look at the sawdust toilet (
http://weblife.org/humanure/chapter8_2.html ).


Chuck Gould September 22nd 06 11:37 PM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

Dan wrote:


Take a look at the sawdust toilet (
http://weblife.org/humanure/chapter8_2.html ).



I had to laugh at this line:

Experience has shown that 150 people will require four five gallon
containers during a serious party. Therefore, always be prepared for
the unexpected, and maintain a reserve toilet capacity at all times by
having extra toilet receptacles available, as well as extra cover
material. Incidentally, for every full container of compost material
carried out of a toilet room, a full, same-sized container of cover
material will need to be carried in.


I don't know how I'd find 150 people willing to attend a "serious
party" where the toilet facility was a bucket of sawdust. :-)

If you use a sawdust or peat moss toilet aboard a boat, you need to
haul a quantity of sawdust or peat moss- hardly practical if there
isn't room for a typical porta-potti...
and then you still have to figure out a way to dump it somewhere. I
can't imagine that it would be easy to get the sawdust or peat moss
into the "pump out hose" at the marina.


Dan September 23rd 06 12:17 AM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
Dan wrote:


Take a look at the sawdust toilet (
http://weblife.org/humanure/chapter8_2.html ).



I had to laugh at this line:

Experience has shown that 150 people will require four five gallon
containers during a serious party. Therefore, always be prepared for
the unexpected, and maintain a reserve toilet capacity at all times by
having extra toilet receptacles available, as well as extra cover
material. Incidentally, for every full container of compost material
carried out of a toilet room, a full, same-sized container of cover
material will need to be carried in.


I don't know how I'd find 150 people willing to attend a "serious
party" where the toilet facility was a bucket of sawdust. :-)

If you use a sawdust or peat moss toilet aboard a boat, you need to
haul a quantity of sawdust or peat moss- hardly practical if there
isn't room for a typical porta-potti...
and then you still have to figure out a way to dump it somewhere. I
can't imagine that it would be easy to get the sawdust or peat moss
into the "pump out hose" at the marina.


The sawdust or peatmoss could be kept in plastic bags that would fit
into small irregular spaces that abound on boats. I agree that there is
no practical way to dump the bucket at the marina, so its only suitable
for day trips or perhaps a weekend.


Larry September 23rd 06 12:24 AM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 
" wrote in
ps.com:

How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:



Well, I believe it is STILL legal to dump the bucket over the side,
without the plastic bag, of course, last time I checked. It is illegal
to dump your holding tank or any MOUNTED toilet over the side, but not if
you use a bucket. Whales and other marine mammals do it all the time
without getting arrested.

The laws about marine sanitation devices is a long, arduous string of
legalese to make sure, as usual, that the appropriate palms get crossed
and the price is high.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...3_00001322----
000-.html

Local states and fiefdoms can make more stringent
laws/regulations/ordinances than this, of course. Your mileage (or is
that millage) may vary.

section 1322 (b)(1) says:

"(b) Federal standards of performance
(1) As soon as possible, after October 18, 1972, and subject to the
provisions of section 1254 (j) of this title, the Administrator, after
consultation with the Secretary of the department in which the Coast
Guard is operating, after giving appropriate consideration to the
economic costs involved, and within the limits of available technology,
shall promulgate Federal standards of performance for marine sanitation
devices (hereafter in this section referred to as “standards”) which
shall be designed to prevent the discharge of untreated or inadequately
treated sewage into or upon the navigable waters from new vessels and
existing vessels, except vessels not equipped with installed toilet
facilities. Such standards and standards established under subsection (c)
(1)(B) of this section shall be consistent with maritime safety and the
marine and navigation laws and regulations and shall be coordinated with
the regulations issued under this subsection by the Secretary of the
department in which the Coast Guard is operating. The Secretary of the
department in which the Coast Guard is operating shall promulgate
regulations, which are consistent with standards promulgated under this
subsection and subsection (c) of this section and with maritime safety
and the marine and navigation laws and regulations governing the design,
construction, installation, and operation of any marine sanitation device
on board such vessels."

The key buzzwords here a "except vessels not equipped with installed
toilet facilities." Your bucket isn't covered because it's not an
"installed toilet facility"....nor is hanging it over the stern and
letting fly, once you get used to the cat calling, cursing and screaming,
especially from the swimmers close by who are always downstream from the
event, it seems. The bucket is nice because you can wait until they are
all distracted, then dump it quickly and retreat before anyone notices
who did it. Just don't "install" the bucket with a hose....which makes
it an "installed" device.

The law recognizes there's no room for $5000 worth of sewage treatment
equipment aboard a 12' aluminum boat with a 9hp Honda, or your Fold-A-
Bote dingy, which I find refreshing after reading some other laws the
stupid idiots we elect to public office write.

Now you need to check all your state, regional and local load of nonsense
to see what these layers of bureaucracy have added to section 1322.

All this is now moot that the Federal Judge in Louisiana has declared
boating, mostly, a Federal felony. After you've robbed the bank, they
won't add any time because you stole beer from the 7-11 cooler.

The bucket is part of our "Dump and Run" scenario. Drunken fisherman
regularly **** all that beer over the side, mostly after the waterskiiers
have passed. This is one of the many reasons MEN are built as we are,
with built-in drainage equipment, hopefully longer than the distance to
the gunwales....to leeward is best, including dumping your bucket.


Larry September 23rd 06 12:25 AM

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 
" wrote in
ps.com:

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?



This isn't a good idea because the irate sanitation workers can easily
identify WHO put it in THIS trash can. Retaliation would be brutal and
swift, probably before the truck drives away!



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