How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

wrote in message
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How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan


Can you imagine being the trash collector who opens that can after some
sharp object pierces the bag. Does that answer your question?
Sheeeesh....these guys have a hard enough job.

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

Yep.


o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?


NO! Do you take a crap in your garbage can? What is the difference?



Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?


Come back and tell us all about what happens when the bucket tips over and
fills the boat with fun stuff.

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the
USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you
literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in
trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances
in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you
"discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that
if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it
isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only
fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly
involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded
areas.

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

Take a look at the sawdust toilet (
http://weblife.org/humanure/chapter8_2.html ).

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

Dan wrote:


Take a look at the sawdust toilet (
http://weblife.org/humanure/chapter8_2.html ).


I had to laugh at this line:

Experience has shown that 150 people will require four five gallon
containers during a serious party. Therefore, always be prepared for
the unexpected, and maintain a reserve toilet capacity at all times by
having extra toilet receptacles available, as well as extra cover
material. Incidentally, for every full container of compost material
carried out of a toilet room, a full, same-sized container of cover
material will need to be carried in.


I don't know how I'd find 150 people willing to attend a "serious
party" where the toilet facility was a bucket of sawdust. :-)

If you use a sawdust or peat moss toilet aboard a boat, you need to
haul a quantity of sawdust or peat moss- hardly practical if there
isn't room for a typical porta-potti...
and then you still have to figure out a way to dump it somewhere. I
can't imagine that it would be easy to get the sawdust or peat moss
into the "pump out hose" at the marina.

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
Dan wrote:


Take a look at the sawdust toilet (
http://weblife.org/humanure/chapter8_2.html ).


I had to laugh at this line:

Experience has shown that 150 people will require four five gallon
containers during a serious party. Therefore, always be prepared for
the unexpected, and maintain a reserve toilet capacity at all times by
having extra toilet receptacles available, as well as extra cover
material. Incidentally, for every full container of compost material
carried out of a toilet room, a full, same-sized container of cover
material will need to be carried in.


I don't know how I'd find 150 people willing to attend a "serious
party" where the toilet facility was a bucket of sawdust. :-)

If you use a sawdust or peat moss toilet aboard a boat, you need to
haul a quantity of sawdust or peat moss- hardly practical if there
isn't room for a typical porta-potti...
and then you still have to figure out a way to dump it somewhere. I
can't imagine that it would be easy to get the sawdust or peat moss
into the "pump out hose" at the marina.

The sawdust or peatmoss could be kept in plastic bags that would fit
into small irregular spaces that abound on boats. I agree that there is
no practical way to dump the bucket at the marina, so its only suitable
for day trips or perhaps a weekend.

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" wrote in
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How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:



Well, I believe it is STILL legal to dump the bucket over the side,
without the plastic bag, of course, last time I checked. It is illegal
to dump your holding tank or any MOUNTED toilet over the side, but not if
you use a bucket. Whales and other marine mammals do it all the time
without getting arrested.

The laws about marine sanitation devices is a long, arduous string of
legalese to make sure, as usual, that the appropriate palms get crossed
and the price is high.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...3_00001322----
000-.html

Local states and fiefdoms can make more stringent
laws/regulations/ordinances than this, of course. Your mileage (or is
that millage) may vary.

section 1322 (b)(1) says:

"(b) Federal standards of performance
(1) As soon as possible, after October 18, 1972, and subject to the
provisions of section 1254 (j) of this title, the Administrator, after
consultation with the Secretary of the department in which the Coast
Guard is operating, after giving appropriate consideration to the
economic costs involved, and within the limits of available technology,
shall promulgate Federal standards of performance for marine sanitation
devices (hereafter in this section referred to as “standards”) which
shall be designed to prevent the discharge of untreated or inadequately
treated sewage into or upon the navigable waters from new vessels and
existing vessels, except vessels not equipped with installed toilet
facilities. Such standards and standards established under subsection (c)
(1)(B) of this section shall be consistent with maritime safety and the
marine and navigation laws and regulations and shall be coordinated with
the regulations issued under this subsection by the Secretary of the
department in which the Coast Guard is operating. The Secretary of the
department in which the Coast Guard is operating shall promulgate
regulations, which are consistent with standards promulgated under this
subsection and subsection (c) of this section and with maritime safety
and the marine and navigation laws and regulations governing the design,
construction, installation, and operation of any marine sanitation device
on board such vessels."

The key buzzwords here a "except vessels not equipped with installed
toilet facilities." Your bucket isn't covered because it's not an
"installed toilet facility"....nor is hanging it over the stern and
letting fly, once you get used to the cat calling, cursing and screaming,
especially from the swimmers close by who are always downstream from the
event, it seems. The bucket is nice because you can wait until they are
all distracted, then dump it quickly and retreat before anyone notices
who did it. Just don't "install" the bucket with a hose....which makes
it an "installed" device.

The law recognizes there's no room for $5000 worth of sewage treatment
equipment aboard a 12' aluminum boat with a 9hp Honda, or your Fold-A-
Bote dingy, which I find refreshing after reading some other laws the
stupid idiots we elect to public office write.

Now you need to check all your state, regional and local load of nonsense
to see what these layers of bureaucracy have added to section 1322.

All this is now moot that the Federal Judge in Louisiana has declared
boating, mostly, a Federal felony. After you've robbed the bank, they
won't add any time because you stole beer from the 7-11 cooler.

The bucket is part of our "Dump and Run" scenario. Drunken fisherman
regularly **** all that beer over the side, mostly after the waterskiiers
have passed. This is one of the many reasons MEN are built as we are,
with built-in drainage equipment, hopefully longer than the distance to
the gunwales....to leeward is best, including dumping your bucket.

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" wrote in
ps.com:

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?



This isn't a good idea because the irate sanitation workers can easily
identify WHO put it in THIS trash can. Retaliation would be brutal and
swift, probably before the truck drives away!

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Larry wrote:
" wrote in
ps.com:

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?



This isn't a good idea because the irate sanitation workers can easily
identify WHO put it in THIS trash can. Retaliation would be brutal and
swift, probably before the truck drives away!

"Satisfaction guaranteed, or triple your crappy garbage back"?

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in
ups.com:

meaning that
if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it
isn't being discharged from your vessel.

Actually the Federal law says it has to be an INSTALLED device, so his
bucket is quite legal to throw it over the side from, balancing out the
effects of indecency and exposure laws quite nicely.

Is a portapotti you just sit on the deck "installed"? Not if it's not
bolted down with some kind of clamping device, is it? What about:
http://www.hi-techredneck.com/Redneck_toilet.jpg
I see it's bolted to the deck, so I'd think it came in as an "installed
device" requiring compliance.
But, then there's:
http://www.hi-techredneck.com/reststop.jpg
Which can easily be picked up and put in ones '76 F150 bed so it would
NOT be an "installed device", would it?
On many vessels, such as:
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_bass_boat.htm
there's no room, so the bucket must be rinsed out in the lake before
filling it with the catch from the stringer to take home....
Here's a camper in compliance:
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_camping.htm
Obviously, the bucket to the right of the steps is not an "installed
device" and is in compliance with the law. He simply carries it away
from his camper in the blue 4-wheel-drive delivery vehicle.
Here aboard the high speed picnic boat, M/V "Redneck Express", there is
plenty of room for an "installed device" but the owner has chosen to use
the direct-overboard method, probably while leaning against one of the
stancions in the corner to leeward, of course:
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_express.htm
Obviously, the design of the uninstalled device must be a consideration:
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_swan_dive.htm
To save the limited space aboard, this boater has designed his sanitation
equipment to perform "dual functions":
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_guitar.htm
Here's another example of multipurpose sanitation equipment that stows
easily aboard:
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_horseshoes.htm

Your yacht isn't the only one with no need of "installed devices":
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_yacht.htm
Twin engines, huge lazerettes, big flybridge, independently-steerable Z
drives for easy docking in cramped marinas. Other yachtsmen must be just
green with envy....

And, I bet dollar-for-dollar, his family enjoys this yacht much more than
the owner of a 70' Hatteras that doesn't have a fingerprint on the deck.



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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"Dan" wrote in news:1158967077.504465.285160
@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

I had to laugh at this line:



http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_golfcart.htm
What about this one? "Installed device" or not? Will he be needing a
pumpout at the clubhouse?



--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.

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If Kitty Litter works for a cat, why wouldn't it work for a human? Some
brands claim to be flushable, so they might not be of too much concern
in a body of water. Also not as obvious to surrounding boaters as all
you'd have to do is use the litter scoop to toss lumps over the side
rather than hefting a nice white bucket.

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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:08:18 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Can you imagine being the trash collector who opens that can after some
sharp object pierces the bag. Does that answer your question?
Sheeeesh....these guys have a hard enough job.

They sell millions of Pampers and Depends in the US and 99.999% of
them end up in the trash. Yucky but a fact of life for the trash man

Yeah, but the OP's talking about a bucket also containing liquid.

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Thanks Chuck. My monitor screen need wiping down anyway :)
JR

Chuck Gould wrote:

"Satisfaction guaranteed, or triple your crappy garbage back"?



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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

Can you imagine being the trash collector who opens that can after some
sharp object pierces the bag. Does that answer your question?
Sheeeesh....these guys have a hard enough job.

Thanks for pointing out that leaving bags of human waste in trash can
is not an acceptable way to get rid of the stuffs from the potty.

Seem like I will have to open each bag and dump the content into the
toilet. I am really not looking forward in doing this task; but this
should give me enough incentive to force everyone to go to bathroom
before getting on my boat.

Jay Chan

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JimH wrote:
wrote in message
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How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

Yep.

Thanks for concurring with Joe about the fact that we cannot leave bags
of human waste in trash can. I didn't know this. I guess dumping the
content into a toilet is a better way because the local government
should have the facility to properly treat the sewage.

Jay Chan

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?


Come back and tell us all about what happens when the bucket tips over and
fills the boat with fun stuff.

No, this is not supposed to happen. The idea is that people should tie
a knot to "kind of" seal the plastic bag after finishing their
"business". Of course, there is nothing to prevent people from not
sealing the bag though. Therefore, I plan to build kind of a box to
surround the bucket and seat the bucket inside the box.

Jay Chan

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wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

Yep.

Thanks for concurring with Joe about the fact that we cannot leave bags
of human waste in trash can. I didn't know this. I guess dumping the
content into a toilet is a better way because the local government
should have the facility to properly treat the sewage.

Jay Chan


I was thinking more in terms of being considerate toward the people who pick
up your trash, in all sorts of atrocious weather. Even though many trucks
have things that do the lifting, the people are still standing right there.
Getting splashed would not be an enjoyable thing, and it would probably
endanger their health as well.

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wrote in message
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Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?


Come back and tell us all about what happens when the bucket tips over
and
fills the boat with fun stuff.

No, this is not supposed to happen. The idea is that people should tie
a knot to "kind of" seal the plastic bag after finishing their
"business". Of course, there is nothing to prevent people from not
sealing the bag though. Therefore, I plan to build kind of a box to
surround the bucket and seat the bucket inside the box.

Jay Chan


By the time you build this contraption, it will be as big as, or bigger than
a ready-made portable toilet made specifically for boats. Didn't someone
point that out to you yesterday in another message? Have you even taken the
time to browse these things at a site like www.westmarine.com?

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the
USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you
literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in
trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances
in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you
"discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that
if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it
isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only
fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly
involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded
areas.

I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste
over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly
discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After
throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket
for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line
the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line
the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the
plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the
waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good
thing to do anyway.

Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to
do this.

Jay Chan

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On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, "
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the
USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you
literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in
trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances
in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you
"discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that
if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it
isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only
fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly
involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded
areas.

I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste
over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly
discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After
throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket
for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line
the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line
the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the
plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the
waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good
thing to do anyway.

Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to
do this.

Jay Chan

Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed
overboard.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
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Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?


Come back and tell us all about what happens when the bucket tips over
and
fills the boat with fun stuff.

No, this is not supposed to happen. The idea is that people should tie
a knot to "kind of" seal the plastic bag after finishing their
"business". Of course, there is nothing to prevent people from not
sealing the bag though. Therefore, I plan to build kind of a box to
surround the bucket and seat the bucket inside the box.

Jay Chan

By the time you build this contraption, it will be as big as, or bigger than
a ready-made portable toilet made specifically for boats. Didn't someone
point that out to you yesterday in another message? Have you even taken the
time to browse these things at a site like www.westmarine.com?

This has to do with the configuration of my boat. A porta potti that
is being sold in West Marine or BoaterWorld tends to be at least 14"
wide. Although my boat is 18-ft long, there is hardly any place that
can fit a 14" wide device, and the spaces that can fit the porta potti
are not a good place for doing "business":

Example 1: I could have placed it in the casting platform at the
bow; but that area is not a very comfortable place for doing "business"
with or without any wave action (just too exposed). Moreover, the
person who needs to do "business" will have to fight for the space with
people who need to use that prime area for fishing.

Example 2: I could have placed it at the rear corner of the boat
near the outboard and away from any foot traffic. But that area has a
very low gunwhale and is kind of sloping toward the sea (to assist in
self-bailing) and is not a stable platform for doing "business". I am
afraid that someone may fall into the sea while doing "business". And
this pretty much prevent anyone from doing "business" while the boat is
underway.

Example 3: I could have placed it right behind the captain seat.
But I have planned to put a large cooler (to serve as a livewell)
behind the captain seat. Moreover, that area is also kind of sloping
toward the sea.

This means the potty must be very small that can fit into the available
space near the center of the boat and away from foot traffic and away
from the edge of the boat. And I have found such a place which is
under the front bench that is right in front of the center console.
The space under the seat of the front bench is hallow and is an
alternate way of getting access to the inside of the console. That
space is deep but not wide (only 10.5" wide from front to back); and
this is the reason why I need to choose a small 3-gal bucket that can
fit under the seat. I imagine that when someone needs to do
"business", he will remove the seat to reveal the bucket under the
seat, line the bucket with a plastic bag, place a toilet seat over the
bucket, hang a custain from the T-top to cover the area to get some
privacy, and do the "business"... In other words, there is enough
space under the front seat for me to add a box to house the bucket.

This has everything to do with the configuration of my boat. I can
imagine that if the boat had a high gunwhale, I would likely put a
porta potti in the corner of the stern area and would not bother with
using a bucket as a potty.

Jay Chan

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

JohnH wrote:
On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, "
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the
USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you
literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in
trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances
in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you
"discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that
if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it
isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only
fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly
involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded
areas.

I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste
over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly
discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After
throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket
for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line
the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line
the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the
plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the
waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good
thing to do anyway.

Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to
do this.

Jay Chan

Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed
overboard.

I must admit that yours is a good idea. But I just have a hard time
overcoming that psychological barrier of throwing solid waste
overboard.

Jay Chan

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
 

On 25 Sep 2006 07:11:15 -0700, "
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, "
wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
wrote:
How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so
small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing
structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and
lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am
wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes:

o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and
dump the content into my toilet? :(

o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes
into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to
remove it along with other household trashes?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Jay Chan

Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the
USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you
literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in
trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances
in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you
"discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that
if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it
isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only
fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly
involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded
areas.

I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste
over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly
discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After
throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket
for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line
the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line
the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the
plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the
waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good
thing to do anyway.

Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to
do this.

Jay Chan

Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed
overboard.

I must admit that yours is a good idea. But I just have a hard time
overcoming that psychological barrier of throwing solid waste
overboard.

Jay Chan

I do to. That's why I tell everyone to go potty before we head out.
However, emergencies happen, and I can get over my psychological barriers
when they occur. It's only happened twice in the last several years.