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How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
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oups.com... Stanley Barthfarkle wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? :( o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Come back and tell us all about what happens when the bucket tips over and fills the boat with fun stuff. No, this is not supposed to happen. The idea is that people should tie a knot to "kind of" seal the plastic bag after finishing their "business". Of course, there is nothing to prevent people from not sealing the bag though. Therefore, I plan to build kind of a box to surround the bucket and seat the bucket inside the box. Jay Chan By the time you build this contraption, it will be as big as, or bigger than a ready-made portable toilet made specifically for boats. Didn't someone point that out to you yesterday in another message? Have you even taken the time to browse these things at a site like www.westmarine.com? |
How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, "
wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? :( o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Any idea? Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you "discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded areas. I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good thing to do anyway. Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to do this. Jay Chan Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed overboard. |
How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Stanley Barthfarkle wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? :( o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Come back and tell us all about what happens when the bucket tips over and fills the boat with fun stuff. No, this is not supposed to happen. The idea is that people should tie a knot to "kind of" seal the plastic bag after finishing their "business". Of course, there is nothing to prevent people from not sealing the bag though. Therefore, I plan to build kind of a box to surround the bucket and seat the bucket inside the box. Jay Chan By the time you build this contraption, it will be as big as, or bigger than a ready-made portable toilet made specifically for boats. Didn't someone point that out to you yesterday in another message? Have you even taken the time to browse these things at a site like www.westmarine.com? This has to do with the configuration of my boat. A porta potti that is being sold in West Marine or BoaterWorld tends to be at least 14" wide. Although my boat is 18-ft long, there is hardly any place that can fit a 14" wide device, and the spaces that can fit the porta potti are not a good place for doing "business": Example 1: I could have placed it in the casting platform at the bow; but that area is not a very comfortable place for doing "business" with or without any wave action (just too exposed). Moreover, the person who needs to do "business" will have to fight for the space with people who need to use that prime area for fishing. Example 2: I could have placed it at the rear corner of the boat near the outboard and away from any foot traffic. But that area has a very low gunwhale and is kind of sloping toward the sea (to assist in self-bailing) and is not a stable platform for doing "business". I am afraid that someone may fall into the sea while doing "business". And this pretty much prevent anyone from doing "business" while the boat is underway. Example 3: I could have placed it right behind the captain seat. But I have planned to put a large cooler (to serve as a livewell) behind the captain seat. Moreover, that area is also kind of sloping toward the sea. This means the potty must be very small that can fit into the available space near the center of the boat and away from foot traffic and away from the edge of the boat. And I have found such a place which is under the front bench that is right in front of the center console. The space under the seat of the front bench is hallow and is an alternate way of getting access to the inside of the console. That space is deep but not wide (only 10.5" wide from front to back); and this is the reason why I need to choose a small 3-gal bucket that can fit under the seat. I imagine that when someone needs to do "business", he will remove the seat to reveal the bucket under the seat, line the bucket with a plastic bag, place a toilet seat over the bucket, hang a custain from the T-top to cover the area to get some privacy, and do the "business"... In other words, there is enough space under the front seat for me to add a box to house the bucket. This has everything to do with the configuration of my boat. I can imagine that if the boat had a high gunwhale, I would likely put a porta potti in the corner of the stern area and would not bother with using a bucket as a potty. Jay Chan |
How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
JohnH wrote:
On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, " wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? :( o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Any idea? Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you "discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded areas. I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good thing to do anyway. Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to do this. Jay Chan Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed overboard. I must admit that yours is a good idea. But I just have a hard time overcoming that psychological barrier of throwing solid waste overboard. Jay Chan |
How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
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JohnH wrote: On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, " wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? :( o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Any idea? Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you "discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded areas. I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good thing to do anyway. Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to do this. Jay Chan Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed overboard. I must admit that yours is a good idea. But I just have a hard time overcoming that psychological barrier of throwing solid waste overboard. Jay Chan Jay, You are correct that you should not throw solid waste overboard unless you are in a legal discharge area. I think people don't have the correct info on the use of a bucket. I think the law says that is the exact same thing as using your discharge value of your head tank. You can only dump a bucket overboard if you are in a legal discharge area. Go to rec.boats.cruising and ask Peggy and she can give you the legal aspects of dumping overboard. |
How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
On 25 Sep 2006 07:11:15 -0700, "
wrote: JohnH wrote: On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, " wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? :( o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Any idea? Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you "discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded areas. I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good thing to do anyway. Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to do this. Jay Chan Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed overboard. I must admit that yours is a good idea. But I just have a hard time overcoming that psychological barrier of throwing solid waste overboard. Jay Chan I do to. That's why I tell everyone to go potty before we head out. However, emergencies happen, and I can get over my psychological barriers when they occur. It's only happened twice in the last several years. |
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