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How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, "
wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet?  o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Any idea? Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you "discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded areas. I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good thing to do anyway. Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to do this. Jay Chan Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed overboard. |
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How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
JohnH wrote:
On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, " wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Any idea? Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you "discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded areas. I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good thing to do anyway. Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to do this. Jay Chan Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed overboard. I must admit that yours is a good idea. But I just have a hard time overcoming that psychological barrier of throwing solid waste overboard. Jay Chan |
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How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
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JohnH wrote: On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, " wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Any idea? Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you "discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded areas. I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good thing to do anyway. Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to do this. Jay Chan Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed overboard. I must admit that yours is a good idea. But I just have a hard time overcoming that psychological barrier of throwing solid waste overboard. Jay Chan Jay, You are correct that you should not throw solid waste overboard unless you are in a legal discharge area. I think people don't have the correct info on the use of a bucket. I think the law says that is the exact same thing as using your discharge value of your head tank. You can only dump a bucket overboard if you are in a legal discharge area. Go to rec.boats.cruising and ask Peggy and she can give you the legal aspects of dumping overboard. |
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How to Dump Wastes That Are in a Bucket (a Potty)?
On 25 Sep 2006 07:11:15 -0700, "
wrote: JohnH wrote: On 25 Sep 2006 06:14:39 -0700, " wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: wrote: How do we get rid of wastes that we leave in a potty? My boat is so small that I cannot easily fit a porta potti into the existing structure of the boat. I am thinking of using a 3-gal bucket and lining it with layers of plastic bags, and use it as a potty. But I am wondering what I am going to do with all these bags of human wastes: o Do I need to open each bag when I get back home and dump the content into my toilet? o Should I simply dump all the bags of human wastes into my trash can and let the sanitation worker to remove it along with other household trashes? Any idea? Thanks in advance for any info. Jay Chan Not that I'd recommend this, but it's technically "legal" under the USCG regs to urinate or defecate directly overboard. By that I mean you literally have to hang out over the side. (now, this could get you in trouble under the public urination, indecent exposure, etc ordinances in various locations) You only go afoul of the USCG regs if you "discharge" untreated sewage overboard in most locations- meaning that if you never had it in a bucket, porta-potti, holding tank, etc it isn't being discharged from your vessel. In reality, most guys-only fishing trips in boats too small for a porta-potti almost certainly involve some "direct" drainage, especially when a bit away from crowded areas. I understand your suggestion, and directly discharging liquid waste over board probably is a very easy thing to do. But directly discharging the solid stuff doesn't seem to be easy to do. After throwing the solid stuff over board, we still need to wash the bucket for the next use. To avoid washing the bucket, we will have to line the bucket with a plastic bag before each use. If I am going to line the bucket with a plastic bag, I may as well store the waste in the plastic bag and dump it at home -- at least I won't have to see the waste floating around my boat, and properly dump the waste is a good thing to do anyway. Thanks for pointing out an alternative. But I likely will not want to do this. Jay Chan Put water in the bucket *before* it gets used. Then it can be rinsed overboard. I must admit that yours is a good idea. But I just have a hard time overcoming that psychological barrier of throwing solid waste overboard. Jay Chan I do to. That's why I tell everyone to go potty before we head out. However, emergencies happen, and I can get over my psychological barriers when they occur. It's only happened twice in the last several years. |
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