"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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Just a thought; although you may have an opinion on almost every subject,
that doesn't mean you have to express that opinion. You have tried very hard
to keep this forum on topic, and even been accused of being the net police,
so why are you adding to the noise level?

JimH wrote:


Why do you choose to defend Chavez?

Sorry, JimH, but apparently I'm not bright enough to follow along here.
If you'll kindly point out where I "defended Chavez", I'd be happy to
share my reasoning with you.

My primary interest in this discussion is considering the question of
whether or not buyng boat fuel at a fuel dock that sells CITGO will
result in Venezuela dropping nuclear bombs on the United States. (see
original post in the thread) The point I'm trying to make is that it
won't make any difference to Chavez, as he can sell the same oil
somewhere else.

Worse yet, you can pull up to a fuel dock that says BP or ARCO and wind
up filling up with CITGO product anyway. Happens all the time, as
others have pointed out in this thread.

If the United States hopes to be insulated for terrorists from
Venezuela, there are a few steps that could be taken. But none of them
have anything to do with the purchase of boat fuel and therefore aren't
remotely appropriate for this group.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


Why do you choose to defend Chavez?

Sorry, JimH, but apparently I'm not bright enough to follow along here.


If you say so.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez
yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as
they
know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such
outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that
since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to do
the same.

Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything
negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country
like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by
the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind
things about the Chief Executive? The nerve!

By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic:

According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we
boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small
businessman. The boycott
wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil
elsewhere.
It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house.


Follows:



Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO?
A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all
comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level.

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Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my
area?
A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they
determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or
influence prices.

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Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping
equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no
receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)?
A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The
owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its
operation and employees.


I will remember that argument when the topic of Wal-Mart comes up next. ;-)

JimH wrote:

I will remember that argument when the topic of Wal-Mart comes up next. ;-)

Are they selling boats at WalMart now?

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

I will remember that argument when the topic of Wal-Mart comes up next.
;-)

Are they selling boats at WalMart now?


Yep! http://tinyurl.com/o2zhq

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


Why do you choose to defend Chavez?

Sorry, JimH, but apparently I'm not bright enough to follow along here.


If you say so.

Uh, oh. It's the childish JimH. Next will be the lying, nasty to
everyone JimH. Classic bipolar!!

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez
yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as
they
know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such
outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that
since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to
do
the same.

Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything
negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country
like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by
the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind
things about the Chief Executive? The nerve!

By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic:

According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we
boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small
businessman. The boycott
wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil
elsewhere.
It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house.


Follows:



Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO?
A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all
comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level.

to top

Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my
area?
A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they
determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or
influence prices.

to top

Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping
equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no
receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)?
A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The
owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its
operation and employees.



Why do you choose to defend Chavez?

Chuck presented you with three business FACTS. Did you notice the common
aspect shared by all three?

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:

Interesting to read Rangel's and Pelosi's statements to Chavez
yesterday......a day late and an obvious attempt at damage control as
they
know they (the libs) created the climate that paved the way for such
outlandish remarks from Chavez at the UN. Chavez probably thought that
since they have done it for the past several years it is OK for him to
do
the same.

Yeah, really. Thank heavens that no Americans ever said anything
negative about previous presidents. Why do you suppose that a country
like the US, where no president prior to GWB has ever been demonized by
the opposition, suddenly adopted the horrible practice of saying unkind
things about the Chief Executive? The nerve!

By the way, back to the sort-of-boating-related topic:

According to the CITGO website that fuel dock you would suggest we
boycott *is* almost certainly owned by an indpendent American small
businessman. The boycott
wouldn't affect CITGO or Chavez much, they would just sell the same oil
elsewhere.
It could, however, cost one of your neighbors his house.


Follows:



Q: Why is there no 800# available for CITGO?
A: Because CITGO locations are independently owned and operated, all
comments, inquiries and disputes are handled at the ownership level.

to top

Q: Why is there such a price difference between CITGO locations in my
area?
A: Locations are owned and operated by independent businessmen, so they
determine their own prices. By federal law, CITGO cannot control or
influence prices.

to top

Q: Who is responsible for the location's operation (i.e., pumping
equipment not working, posted price is different than the receipt, no
receipt is available, dirty rest rooms, rude attendant)?
A: CITGO does not own or operate any of its branded locations. The
owner and operator of that specific location is responsible for its
operation and employees.


I will remember that argument when the topic of Wal-Mart comes up next.
;-)

The only common argument I see in Chuck's last 3 paragraphs is that Citgo
outlets are INDEPENDENTLY OWNED AND OPERATED. That IN NO WAY resembles Wal
Mart's model.

basskisser wrote:
JimH wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:


Why do you choose to defend Chavez?

Sorry, JimH, but apparently I'm not bright enough to follow along here.


If you say so.


Uh, oh. It's the childish JimH. Next will be the lying, nasty to
everyone JimH. Classic bipolar!!


Classic obsession.