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Charlie Morgan wrote: Orange paint will give you the same appearance, and with less hassle than Cetol. :-) You obviously don't know much about various finishes and how they work, Chuck. That was a very ignorant post. CWM Do make sure you offer the same persoanl observation to Eisboch, who made an identical observation about Cetol and its orange coloration further along in the thread. I've spent more time sanding, varnishing, and refinishing over the years than a lot of people have spent on the water. If you like orange decks, you'll love Cetol. Unless of course you thought that I seriously recommended orange paint (!)......in which case I'm not sure which of us would be the more ignorant. |
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Chuck Gould wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: Orange paint will give you the same appearance, and with less hassle than Cetol. :-) You obviously don't know much about various finishes and how they work, Chuck. That was a very ignorant post. CWM Do make sure you offer the same persoanl observation to Eisboch, who made an identical observation about Cetol and its orange coloration further along in the thread. I've spent more time sanding, varnishing, and refinishing over the years than a lot of people have spent on the water. If you like orange decks, you'll love Cetol. Unless of course you thought that I seriously recommended orange paint (!)......in which case I'm not sure which of us would be the more ignorant. PS, if you feel compelled to call everybody "ignorant" who feels that Cetol looks orange, Google up "Orange appearance Cetol". You'll get five pages of hits, I don't think any of them are me, and so you'll be busy all night. :-) |
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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message ups.com... Charlie Morgan wrote: Orange paint will give you the same appearance, and with less hassle than Cetol. :-) You obviously don't know much about various finishes and how they work, Chuck. That was a very ignorant post. CWM Do make sure you offer the same persoanl observation to Eisboch, who made an identical observation about Cetol and its orange coloration further along in the thread. I've spent more time sanding, varnishing, and refinishing over the years than a lot of people have spent on the water. If you like orange decks, you'll love Cetol. Unless of course you thought that I seriously recommended orange paint (!)......in which case I'm not sure which of us would be the more ignorant. I'll chip in my two cents worth. Some people go to a great deal of effort doing the Cetol thing that sticks to naturally oily woods like teak and mahogany better than varnish. Unfortunately, Cetol gives teak an unnatural orange color than many, including me, simply don't like. Even Cetol on teak won't last long, even in fresh water before starting to look ragged and requires periodic stripping and maintenance. The exterior of our house was built with some fairly large wood panel (mahogany) surfaces and finished in Cetol. Somewhat darker than teak with Cetol, it still has an orange hue to it and needs to be refinished every 2-3 years. My preference for teak swim platforms is to sand or power wash (if required), clean and rinse, then apply quite a bit of teak oil. Maintenance after that is simple .... wash, rinse and wipe down with oil once every month or two. Best of all, it keeps teak looking like .... teak. We recently had the exterior teak decking on the Grand Banks sanded, oiled and then top treated with a product that does not cover up the natural color or look of teak. It looks spectacular. I don't know what the top treatment is (I'll find out) but I've noticed that even a couple of months later the deck has a slight "tacky" feel to it, but does not retain marks of any kind when walking on it., We have some 6 year old outdoor furniture (chairs, tables) made of teak and they become dirty and grey over time. Once a year I blast them with a power washer and they look brand new. I don't even bother to add extra oil to them. Refinishing or completely removing Cetol is a major project when compared to the minor maintenance of natural, oiled teak. And the natural teak looks a hell of a lot better. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
I'll chip in my two cents worth. Some people go to a great deal of effort doing the Cetol thing that sticks to naturally oily woods like teak and mahogany better than varnish. Unfortunately, Cetol gives teak an unnatural orange color than many, including me, simply don't like. Even Cetol on teak won't last long, even in fresh water before starting to look ragged and requires periodic stripping and maintenance. The exterior of our house was built with some fairly large wood panel (mahogany) surfaces and finished in Cetol. Somewhat darker than teak with Cetol, it still has an orange hue to it and needs to be refinished every 2-3 years. My preference for teak swim platforms is to sand or power wash (if required), clean and rinse, then apply quite a bit of teak oil. Maintenance after that is simple .... wash, rinse and wipe down with oil once every month or two. Best of all, it keeps teak looking like .... teak. We recently had the exterior teak decking on the Grand Banks sanded, oiled and then top treated with a product that does not cover up the natural color or look of teak. It looks spectacular. I don't know what the top treatment is (I'll find out) but I've noticed that even a couple of months later the deck has a slight "tacky" feel to it, but does not retain marks of any kind when walking on it., We have some 6 year old outdoor furniture (chairs, tables) made of teak and they become dirty and grey over time. Once a year I blast them with a power washer and they look brand new. I don't even bother to add extra oil to them. Refinishing or completely removing Cetol is a major project when compared to the minor maintenance of natural, oiled teak. And the natural teak looks a hell of a lot better. Eisboch On my last daysailer, I had a teak thwart.have to admit, I liked oiling it. It always looked great for a month or two. With our short seasons up here... it would be no big deal to wipe down a bit of teak three or four times the entire season. Now if I can just remove the $%^% black paint the PO used to cover up my current sailboat's teak rubrails, hand holds and casing around companionway I'd gladly rub a little oil on. |
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