What is the right way to refinish Teak?
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On 20 Sep 2006 09:04:43 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:


No, Chuck, you made incorrect statements about Cetol and presented
them as if they were facts. If you believed what you said, then there
is no other way to describe you than as being ignorant. If you
eventually learn the truth about Cetol, then you won't be ignorant any
longer.

CWM

I said that Cetol looks like orange paint.

Nope, that's not what you said.

CWM


Charlie, is your middle name "Weathered"?

(just kidding)

Eisboch (on da boat)

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 20 Sep 2006 09:12:12 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 20 Sep 2006 08:20:40 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:


Cetol gloss is an entirely different product than Cetol Marine. Cetol
Marine breathes and is very durable. I would not characterize Cetol
Marine as a "stain", either.


You may want to take that up with Sikkens. They describe Cetol Marine
as containing
"pigments". How would you characterize a non-opaque application of
pigment via an oil or water base if not as a "stain"?


Okay, now we've established that you don't even know the difference
between paint and stain.

CWM

Sorry, a renewed personal attack doesn't get you off the hook here.
Does your answer indicate that you feel Cetol is a "paint"?

If not, please reply directly and without digressing to personal
remarks to:

"How would you characterize a non-opaque applicatin of pigment via an
oil or water base if not as a 'stain'"?

(An additional personal remark or failure to respond at all will be
accepted as an indicator that you feel Cetol is a paint).

Accept whatever you want, buttplug. You'll just be wrong about a
longer list of things.

CWM

OK. So we now at least know where you stand. You believe that Cetol is
a paint.
Wouldn't it be just as easy to express your opinion without resorting
to name calling and personal remarks?

Did you know that one reliable way to evalaute a debate is to note
which party is resorting to personal remarks and insult? The common
name for that party is "the loser". Do come back when you can speak to
the actual merits of an issue, won't you?

What is the right way to refinish Teak?
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 20 Sep 2006 09:12:12 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 20 Sep 2006 08:20:40 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:


Cetol gloss is an entirely different product than Cetol Marine. Cetol
Marine breathes and is very durable. I would not characterize Cetol
Marine as a "stain", either.

You may want to take that up with Sikkens. They describe Cetol Marine
as containing
"pigments". How would you characterize a non-opaque application of
pigment via an oil or water base if not as a "stain"?

Okay, now we've established that you don't even know the difference
between paint and stain.

CWM
Sorry, a renewed personal attack doesn't get you off the hook here.
Does your answer indicate that you feel Cetol is a "paint"?

If not, please reply directly and without digressing to personal
remarks to:

"How would you characterize a non-opaque applicatin of pigment via an
oil or water base if not as a 'stain'"?

(An additional personal remark or failure to respond at all will be
accepted as an indicator that you feel Cetol is a paint).

Accept whatever you want, buttplug. You'll just be wrong about a
longer list of things.

CWM
Charlie,
What is the reason for working yourself into a tizzy over Cetol? There
are people who think the orange tint looks crappy. Heck, even Cetol
sells a "light" that they proudly say is not as orange as their regular.

Your opinion that Cetol is the best thing for teak is your opinion.
There are many who agree and many that disagree. Do you normally get so
****y every time someone disagrees with you?

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"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:


Ah, I see Chuck made another friend here on rec.boats. Perhaps he's due
for
another self-imposed sabbatical.

NOYB? What the heck are you doing here? This is a boating discussion
that has nothing to do with politics at all. Are you trying to develop
an interest in the subject?
If so, great!

Are these rhetorical questions, are are you trying to start a conversation
again that you will deny starting once I reply?

What is the right way to refinish Teak?
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:


Ah, I see Chuck made another friend here on rec.boats. Perhaps he's due
for
another self-imposed sabbatical.

NOYB? What the heck are you doing here? This is a boating discussion
that has nothing to do with politics at all. Are you trying to develop
an interest in the subject?
If so, great!


LOL!

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" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...
I am refininshing a teak wood swim platform on an older boat. It is
the first time I have done this. I read that I should strip the old
varnish, sand down the gray wood, and refinish, basically. But should
I oil the teak or put more varnish on it? It is out of the water except
for a few hours a week when I am actually on the water. Thanks for the
benefit of anyone's experience.


Several good links on this subject with great advice:

http://www.boatdocs1.com/Articles_Teak.html

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...stol-teak.html


Sorry jerriko....you asked a solid question yet the thread turned into a
****ing match. Yet another solid boating thread down the tubes...........

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"DSK" wrote in message
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Cetol is not just orange. It has other distinctive properties.


"Cetol... it's not just for breakfast any more!"

Frankly I have lost faith in various marine brands of miracle glop
intended to make boating less time consuming and more skill-free
.

Wayne.B wrote:
That's true, it does have other distictive properties:

1. It is *very* slippery when wet.

2. If not meticulously kept up, it looks like faded barn paint.

3. If it *is* meticulously kept up, it looks orange.

How's that for keen observation ?


If the wood on your boat has pretty grain and is well fit, in other words,
an aesthetic plus; why would you slather some kind of miracle glop that
hides the grain all over it? Just to save some time (which it doesn't in
the long run) and to avoid learning the skill of varnishing?

OTOH if the wood on your boat is not an aesthetic plus, then why bother
with the time & effort of varnishing? For that matter, why bother with
miracle glop that is 90% of the time & effort of varnishing? Just ****in'
paint it and be done.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


I don't know what's considered the modern way to handle teak. But, between
1967 and 1970, on my dad's Concorde, it was my job to maintain the teak. I
used a powder called Teak Bright and a deck brush to clean it. It was
followed by an oil that soaked into the wood, but no other varnish coating
of any kind. It worked beautifully.

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Right now
I am shutting this 'puter down and heading for the boat.

Eisboch

I think Oil sounds the best after reading all the posts. I have almost
finished sanding and the grain is beautiful. I would like it to show
and certainly don't want to hide it with orange paint. Varnish is a
close second as I think it can look great but probably wouldn't be as
good on a swim platform as on a hand rail. I am worried that the oil
will discolor but it sounds like it will be easier to clean and redo
than varnish.

I am at least grateful that I can refinish the teak. I also have a
Mirage that has a gel coat swim platform and it already looks brown
discolored and dull after only a few years and I gather there is very
little I can do about this (short of painting it orange).

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On 20 Sep 2006 23:22:06 -0700, wrote:

I am worried that the oil
will discolor but it sounds like it will be easier to clean and redo
than varnish.

That's the downside of oil: discoloration, darkening and cleaning.

The repeated cleaning eventually wears down the teak to the point
where the plugs over the screw heads will pop out.

Best to sell the boat before that happens.