Alotta Fagina wrote:
You wrote:


Alotta Fagina wrote:
You wrote:


jamesgangnc wrote:
They were going to be prosecuted or arrested or something? That's
like saying I'm going to get amnesty for all the times I've gone
over the speed limit on the interstate. I should care? Nothing
changes for the 30 million that are already here one way or
another. No bill gets passed, they are still here and go on going
sending their kids to school and using social and medical services
anyway. There is no solution that involves sending the 30 million
back where they came from. It just ain't going to happen. There
might be a solution that controls what happens from now on.

Right now in CA the fruit crops are rotting on the trees because
there isn't enough pickers.

Yeah, there was no California produce industry until illegals came.

Idiot.

Yes, you ARE an idiot! Go to:
http://www.sfgate.com
It's the San Francisco Chronicle website. Now, click on Day in Pictures
for today, Friday 9/8/06. If you do this some other day, then just open
the Day in Pictures, and click on the archives. Scroll until you find a
huge pile of rotting fruit, the caption says:

Wasted fruit: Tons of pears, picked past their prime, rot in a field
near Lakeport, Calif. An estimated 30 percent of this year's pear crop
will not be harvested because of a lack of migrant laborers.

Get it? Idiot indeed!

They can hire someone else. After all, the Bush economy has half the
country unemployed, right?

Damn, you are dumber than a post, huh? They can't find the labor to
pick the crops, period. Who will they hire? Idiot, indeed. You was
wrong, and still are.

Damn, you are dumber than a post, huh? They can't find the labor to
pick the crops, period. Who will they hire? Idiot, indeed. You was
wrong, and still are.

And you apparently miss the larger issue of wages not be adjusted to fit
market demands. This whole argument about foreign workers is a smokescreen
clouding the real issue of wages being far too low. The days of racing to
the bottom to get illegals to do the work for next to nothing are rapidly
coming to a close. Wages will have to rise and that will certainly affect
market prices. But as they've been artifically low for over two decades
it's coming time to see them adjust. Blame yourselves for pretending you
could get everything for low prices, you can't and it's now becoming
painfully clear.

"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
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Damn, you are dumber than a post, huh? They can't find the labor to
pick the crops, period. Who will they hire? Idiot, indeed. You was
wrong, and still are.

And you apparently miss the larger issue of wages not be adjusted to fit
market demands. This whole argument about foreign workers is a
smokescreen
clouding the real issue of wages being far too low. The days of racing to
the bottom to get illegals to do the work for next to nothing are rapidly
coming to a close. Wages will have to rise and that will certainly affect
market prices. But as they've been artifically low for over two decades
it's coming time to see them adjust. Blame yourselves for pretending you
could get everything for low prices, you can't and it's now becoming
painfully clear.

Take this unrelated cross-posting somewhere else. As far as I can tell, it's
not related to any of the NGs it's cross-posted to.

Bill Kearney wrote:
Damn, you are dumber than a post, huh? They can't find the labor to
pick the crops, period. Who will they hire? Idiot, indeed. You was
wrong, and still are.

And you apparently miss the larger issue of wages not be adjusted to fit
market demands. This whole argument about foreign workers is a smokescreen
clouding the real issue of wages being far too low. The days of racing to
the bottom to get illegals to do the work for next to nothing are rapidly
coming to a close. Wages will have to rise and that will certainly affect
market prices. But as they've been artifically low for over two decades
it's coming time to see them adjust. Blame yourselves for pretending you
could get everything for low prices, you can't and it's now becoming
painfully clear.

Smokescreen? Do you honestly think that CA farmers WANT 30% of their
profit rotting on the trees????

On 10 Sep 2006 06:19:17 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Bill Kearney wrote:
Damn, you are dumber than a post, huh? They can't find the labor to
pick the crops, period. Who will they hire? Idiot, indeed. You was
wrong, and still are.

And you apparently miss the larger issue of wages not be adjusted to fit
market demands. This whole argument about foreign workers is a smokescreen
clouding the real issue of wages being far too low. The days of racing to
the bottom to get illegals to do the work for next to nothing are rapidly
coming to a close. Wages will have to rise and that will certainly affect
market prices. But as they've been artifically low for over two decades
it's coming time to see them adjust. Blame yourselves for pretending you
could get everything for low prices, you can't and it's now becoming
painfully clear.

Smokescreen? Do you honestly think that CA farmers WANT 30% of their
profit rotting on the trees????

The bottom line is economic slavery for some more dark-skinned people. It
wasn't enough that we had slavery and fought a civil war over it. Now, we're
trying to do it again with a different group, and with their participation.

Its way past time for this industry to automate. This means crop harvesting
_machines_ doing the work. Is it more expensive than slave-labor wages? Of
course! Is it the right thing to do? Absolutely.

Paying people peanuts is wrong, and it doesn't matter who they are. Can't get
the natives to spend all day in the hot sun stooping over and picking your
tomatoes or carrots or whatever for what you want to pay them? Tough - buy a
machine to do it. You can likely get 1 machine operator, who will replace
dozens of manual workers, and get the harvest done. That's the way to handle
this.

The bottom line is no more slavery - not ball and chain slavery and not
economic slavery. Slavery is always a bad idea, no matter how you try to dress
it up.

Dave Head

basskisser wrote:
Bill Kearney wrote:
Damn, you are dumber than a post, huh? They can't find the labor to
pick the crops, period. Who will they hire? Idiot, indeed. You was
wrong, and still are.
And you apparently miss the larger issue of wages not be adjusted to fit
market demands. This whole argument about foreign workers is a smokescreen
clouding the real issue of wages being far too low. The days of racing to
the bottom to get illegals to do the work for next to nothing are rapidly
coming to a close. Wages will have to rise and that will certainly affect
market prices. But as they've been artifically low for over two decades
it's coming time to see them adjust. Blame yourselves for pretending you
could get everything for low prices, you can't and it's now becoming
painfully clear.

Smokescreen? Do you honestly think that CA farmers WANT 30% of their
profit rotting on the trees????


No, they don't. But, they have a problem that is of their own making.