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Wayne.B August 27th 06 06:41 PM

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:23:31 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Maine lobsters, for example, are mostly grown in holding pens these
days


Are you sure about that?

References?


Eisboch August 27th 06 07:22 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..

Bert Robbins wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:

What's your point here, Bert? My house does not sit on public land.


Ownership of the resource determines how the resource can be utilized?



To a limited degree, sometimes. For land, zoning is an issue, as is the
availability of water, sewage, roads, et cetera. There are also building
codes and various restrictions. This is for private land, of course.



And more and more often nowadays, strict conservation laws, state and town,
to determine what you can do with "your" land.

Eisboch



John Wentworth August 27th 06 07:36 PM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:23:31 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Maine lobsters, for example, are mostly grown in holding pens these
days


I'm sure that Harry's information will come as a complete surprise to the
Maine lobstermen, as they still have thousands of lobster pots set off the
coast of Maine. Or maybe they know, but keep setting traps just to please
the folks from away.

Holding lobsters in pens is common in Canada, but not raising them in pens.



Reginald P. Smithers III August 28th 06 02:44 AM

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Harry Krause wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:23:31 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Maine lobsters, for example, are mostly grown in holding pens these days


Are you sure about that?
References?



My last trip to Maine, where I spent three weeks on various islands and
in the company of lobstermen. Most of them grow their lobsters in pens,
check on them daily, and harvest them when they reach legal size or larger.

Note that there are many lobstermen who still use individual pots.

Harry,

I was surprised to learn that most of Maine Lobsters are grown in pens,
are you basing this on anything more than your last trip to Maine?


Wayne.B August 28th 06 02:55 AM

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:46:49 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Note that there are many lobstermen who still use individual pots.


That's for sure.




Reginald P. Smithers III August 28th 06 03:03 AM

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Harry Krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:23:31 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Maine lobsters, for example, are mostly grown in holding pens these
days
Are you sure about that? References?


My last trip to Maine, where I spent three weeks on various islands
and in the company of lobstermen. Most of them grow their lobsters in
pens, check on them daily, and harvest them when they reach legal
size or larger.

Note that there are many lobstermen who still use individual pots.

Harry,

I was surprised to learn that most of Maine Lobsters are grown in
pens, are you basing this on anything more than your last trip to Maine?



Try reading for content, numnutz. Most of the lobstermen with whom I
visited grow lobsters in pens. Nowhere did I say that "most of Maine
lobsters are grown in pens." These same lobstermen, many of them, also
use traditional pots.

These pens, by the way, are not on land. They're off the shore a ways,
perhaps a mile, typically in coves around the islands. Some of them are
run as cooperatives.


wrote:

Maine lobsters, for example, are mostly grown in holding pens these
days


Harry why the anger? When I read the above, I thought you wrote that
statement, and it sounded a little far fetched. If you did write that
statement, doesn't it say Maine lobsters are mostly grown in holding
pens these days?





John Wentworth August 28th 06 03:03 AM

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"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Harry Krause wrote:
My last trip to Maine, where I spent three weeks on various islands and
in the company of lobstermen. Most of them grow their lobsters in pens,
check on them daily, and harvest them when they reach legal size or
larger.

Note that there are many lobstermen who still use individual pots.

Harry,


Harry needs to learn that when caught in a BS story it's best to just 'fess
up. I'd love to learn just where these massive lobster pens are located.
Let's be clear; no one is raising lobsters in pens in Maine for commercial
use. The only island Harry has visited is Fantasy Island.



Reginald P. Smithers III August 28th 06 03:13 AM

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Harry Krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:23:31 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Maine lobsters, for example, are mostly grown in holding pens
these days
Are you sure about that? References?

My last trip to Maine, where I spent three weeks on various islands
and in the company of lobstermen. Most of them grow their lobsters
in pens, check on them daily, and harvest them when they reach
legal size or larger.

Note that there are many lobstermen who still use individual pots.
Harry,

I was surprised to learn that most of Maine Lobsters are grown in
pens, are you basing this on anything more than your last trip to
Maine?


Try reading for content, numnutz. Most of the lobstermen with whom I
visited grow lobsters in pens. Nowhere did I say that "most of Maine
lobsters are grown in pens." These same lobstermen, many of them,
also use traditional pots.

These pens, by the way, are not on land. They're off the shore a
ways, perhaps a mile, typically in coves around the islands. Some of
them are run as cooperatives.


wrote:

Maine lobsters, for example, are mostly grown in holding pens

these
days


Harry why the anger? When I read the above, I thought you wrote that
statement, and it sounded a little far fetched. If you did write that
statement, doesn't it say Maine lobsters are mostly grown in holding
pens these days?






"Reggie," there isn't anything you post here that interests me.
Play your d.f. games with someone else, ok?

I'll be glad to consider taking you seriously when you have a real
identity here.

Good night.


Harry,
When I first read that statement I thought you might have actually knew
something about the Maine lobster industry, based upon your
overreaction to my simple question to your statement, it seems I hit a
sensitive nerve. Sorry.


John Wentworth August 28th 06 03:27 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
As one example, f.w., there are onshore and offshore lobster pounds and on
Swans Island. In fact, there is an institute in Maine for the pounding of
lobsters.

Here is a webpage that shows a Maine lobster pen and pound that has been
operating for more than 100 years.

http://www.riverviewlobsterpoundcott...gmainelob.html


It appears that this is a holding pen, much like that used extensively in
Canada. They are not "raising" lobsters, just holding lobsters over to
maximize profits.

It's not a crime to be wrong Harry, if it were you'd be doing 20-to-life.



John Wentworth August 28th 06 03:52 AM

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Harry, I'm done with this. Every six months or so I disable my killfile to
see just what BS you're throwing at the moment. You never fail to make the
visit worthwhile. You lie as naturally as others breathe, and conjure up an
amazing amount of indignation when caught. You have provided many hours of
amusement over the years, please don't stop your posts. I'll see you in 6
months.




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