"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:09:03 GMT, Don White
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 10:47:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On 27 Aug 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Think small
No thanks. Thinking small is for the unmotivated in life.
You think that because someone has a boat that they really
like,
although it may be smaller than yours is "unmotivated"? Do you
think
that just because someone isn't financially overextended is
"unmotivated"? I think that people who overextend just for
appearances
are fools.
bk, do you think that NOYB was trying to be controversial in his
statement?
Maybe he was just saying how *he* feels about life, and not
passing any
judgements on others.

Why the attacks?

It's a nice Sunday...chill out.
--
No, John, he certainly was, and always has, passed judgements on
others.
I'm discussing only the post you responded to, not the past few
years.

I'm surprised that you'd take a philosophical comment like,
"Thinking
small
is for the unmotivated in life" as a personal attack or the
passing of
judgement on you.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John
Since I was the one who advised to "think small", I thought NOYB
was
jabbing at me. Maybe I should have said 'think modestly'.
Obviously some here have no need to even consider that, but I stand
by
my common sense advice.
Nah. He came back with a bit of philosophy to counteract the bit you
gave
him. He's already bought his boat, so 'thinking small' wouldn't work
for
this one anyway. Thinking small is what I'm doing for my *next*
boat -
maybe a 17-18'er.
It's actually what I'm thinking for my next boat too. Instead of
having a
30 foot offshore boat, and 17' nearshore/inshore boat, I'm thinking
about
buying something in the 25-26 foot range to replace both boats. I
could get
a trailer for it, and tow it to the keys or the east coast for a
change of
scenary.
Thinking small is for the unmotivated.
Good point. I'll get the 25-26 footer to tow to East Coast on
weekends, and look into buying a 40-something foot sportfish for over
here.




You could buy my Parker.

I like your boat, but if I downsize, I'm sticking with two engines and
cabin accommodations similar to what I have now. The Everglades 265 EX
is the one that I have my eye on. It gets about 70% better fuel economy
than my Grady (at 25-30mph it gets 2.7+ mpg vs. 1.6 mpg for the Grady),
tops out about 10 mph faster (55.7mph with twin 225 Yamaha's), and it's
insurable because it's under 30'.


Why would you possibly want twin 225s? If you are running at 25-30 mph as
a good cruise speed, twin 150s will do the job. My Parker burns 9-10gph at
those speeds, with a single 225, and tops out at a flat 40 mph (19gph).

Because the boat tops out at 55 mph, and still gets 1.3 mpg at that speed.
This has been an awful year for grouper fishing. Guys are routinely running
60-80 miles to get 'em. I've been out on days where the gulf is flat calm,
and running 50+ mph would make the day a lot more enjoyable.

The Edgewater with twin 150's still hits 45+ mph, but overall fuel economy
isn't much different (aside from a lower cruise speed for top fuel economy).

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:09:03 GMT, Don White

wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 10:47:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On 27 Aug 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Think small
No thanks. Thinking small is for the unmotivated in life.
You think that because someone has a boat that they really
like,
although it may be smaller than yours is "unmotivated"? Do
you think
that just because someone isn't financially overextended is
"unmotivated"? I think that people who overextend just for
appearances
are fools.
bk, do you think that NOYB was trying to be controversial in
his
statement?
Maybe he was just saying how *he* feels about life, and not
passing any
judgements on others.

Why the attacks?

It's a nice Sunday...chill out.
--
No, John, he certainly was, and always has, passed judgements
on
others.
I'm discussing only the post you responded to, not the past few
years.

I'm surprised that you'd take a philosophical comment like,
"Thinking
small
is for the unmotivated in life" as a personal attack or the
passing of
judgement on you.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John
Since I was the one who advised to "think small", I thought NOYB
was
jabbing at me. Maybe I should have said 'think modestly'.
Obviously some here have no need to even consider that, but I
stand by
my common sense advice.
Nah. He came back with a bit of philosophy to counteract the bit
you gave
him. He's already bought his boat, so 'thinking small' wouldn't
work for
this one anyway. Thinking small is what I'm doing for my *next*
boat -
maybe a 17-18'er.
It's actually what I'm thinking for my next boat too. Instead of
having a
30 foot offshore boat, and 17' nearshore/inshore boat, I'm thinking
about
buying something in the 25-26 foot range to replace both boats. I
could get
a trailer for it, and tow it to the keys or the east coast for a
change of
scenary.
Thinking small is for the unmotivated.
Good point. I'll get the 25-26 footer to tow to East Coast on
weekends, and look into buying a 40-something foot sportfish for over
here.



You could buy my Parker.
I like your boat, but if I downsize, I'm sticking with two engines and
cabin accommodations similar to what I have now. The Everglades 265 EX
is the one that I have my eye on. It gets about 70% better fuel
economy than my Grady (at 25-30mph it gets 2.7+ mpg vs. 1.6 mpg for the
Grady), tops out about 10 mph faster (55.7mph with twin 225 Yamaha's),
and it's insurable because it's under 30'.

Why would you possibly want twin 225s? If you are running at 25-30 mph
as a good cruise speed, twin 150s will do the job. My Parker burns
9-10gph at those speeds, with a single 225, and tops out at a flat 40
mph (19gph).

Because the boat tops out at 55 mph, and still gets 1.3 mpg at that
speed. This has been an awful year for grouper fishing. Guys are
routinely running 60-80 miles to get 'em. I've been out on days where
the gulf is flat calm, and running 50+ mph would make the day a lot more
enjoyable.

The Edgewater with twin 150's still hits 45+ mph, but overall fuel
economy isn't much different (aside from a lower cruise speed for top
fuel economy).


I guess I was "spoiled" when I lived on the east coast of Florida. There
was plenty of inshore fishing, good fishing right offshore, and if you
wanted to head out 20 miles, sometimes terrific reef fishing. Running 60
to 80 miles offshore to catch a fish when gas is $3.50 a gallon? Naw.

Florida has great inshore fishing, but not in your area? Snook, tarpon,
trout, reds, kingfish, spanish, flounder...you have to go that far
offshore?


Snook, tarpon, redfish, kings, and spanish have been fine this year. The
bottom bite has been very poor. All of the guys who dive the nearshore
reefs (within 10 miles), said there was an inch-thick layer of silt and
algae covering them...and no life. Most people blame it on the very heavy
contaminated fresh-water releases out of Okeechobee down the Caloosahatchee
that occurred late last year after Hurricane Wilma. We had a bad red tide
this Summer as well.

The nearshore reefs are just now coming back. I've been catching a lot of
undersized lane and mangrove snapper, spanish macks, barracuda and even some
very small grouper. Four months ago, there wasn't a thing alive on them.

It looks like Ernesto is turning East, so hopefully we dodged another one,
and the fishing won't get all screwed up again. But you guys in the
mid-Atlantic states better keep an eye on that one.

NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

Uh, no you weren't. You didn't even mention ambition.

motivated=ambitious
unmotivated=lacks ambition.
thinking small=lacks ambition=unmotivated

So, if someone is quite happy with say, an 18 foot boat, fits there
needs perfectly, etc, you think they are unmotivated? Amazing.

Harry Krause wrote:
NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:09:03 GMT, Don White
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 10:47:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On 27 Aug 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Think small
No thanks. Thinking small is for the unmotivated in life.
You think that because someone has a boat that they really like,
although it may be smaller than yours is "unmotivated"? Do you
think
that just because someone isn't financially overextended is
"unmotivated"? I think that people who overextend just for
appearances
are fools.
bk, do you think that NOYB was trying to be controversial in his
statement?
Maybe he was just saying how *he* feels about life, and not passing
any
judgements on others.

Why the attacks?

It's a nice Sunday...chill out.
--
No, John, he certainly was, and always has, passed judgements on
others.

I'm discussing only the post you responded to, not the past few
years.

I'm surprised that you'd take a philosophical comment like, "Thinking
small
is for the unmotivated in life" as a personal attack or the passing
of
judgement on you.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John
Since I was the one who advised to "think small", I thought NOYB was
jabbing at me. Maybe I should have said 'think modestly'.
Obviously some here have no need to even consider that, but I stand by
my common sense advice.
Nah. He came back with a bit of philosophy to counteract the bit you
gave
him. He's already bought his boat, so 'thinking small' wouldn't work
for
this one anyway. Thinking small is what I'm doing for my *next* boat -
maybe a 17-18'er.
It's actually what I'm thinking for my next boat too. Instead of having
a
30 foot offshore boat, and 17' nearshore/inshore boat, I'm thinking about
buying something in the 25-26 foot range to replace both boats. I could
get
a trailer for it, and tow it to the keys or the east coast for a change
of
scenary.
Thinking small is for the unmotivated.

Good point. I'll get the 25-26 footer to tow to East Coast on weekends, and
look into buying a 40-something foot sportfish for over here.





You could buy my Parker. Let's see, nothing down, interest only payments
for, oh, 25 years... :) I charge two points over the vig, which these
days is about 10 points less than the average credit card company.

He'll go for it! According to him, interest only payments on tangibles
is a great and wise investment!

JohnH wrote:
On 28 Aug 2006 04:51:19 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 27 Aug 2006 13:07:03 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Don White wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 10:47:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On 27 Aug 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Think small

No thanks. Thinking small is for the unmotivated in life.

You think that because someone has a boat that they really like,
although it may be smaller than yours is "unmotivated"? Do you think
that just because someone isn't financially overextended is
"unmotivated"? I think that people who overextend just for
appearances
are fools.

bk, do you think that NOYB was trying to be controversial in his
statement?
Maybe he was just saying how *he* feels about life, and not passing
any
judgements on others.

Why the attacks?

It's a nice Sunday...chill out.
--

No, John, he certainly was, and always has, passed judgements on
others.


I'm discussing only the post you responded to, not the past few years.

I'm surprised that you'd take a philosophical comment like, "Thinking
small
is for the unmotivated in life" as a personal attack or the passing of
judgement on you.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John

Since I was the one who advised to "think small", I thought NOYB was
jabbing at me. Maybe I should have said 'think modestly'.
Obviously some here have no need to even consider that, but I stand by
my common sense advice.

NOYB can't think small, because the stuff he has is making up for his
lack of manhood!

Attack mode. Why? You weren't attacked.

Here it is, a nice Sunday, lot's of friendly conversation on a range of
subjects, and you come in like a rabid pit bull...

Why? What does it serve?

He can't help it. Jealousy I would guess.

See? I rest my case, John!

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You made three or four attacking posts, and NOYB responded with one of his
own. Then you say you rest your case. There was no reason for your initial
attacks!
--
The initial attack was NOYB attacking Don who posted a perfectly good
idea, one that NOYB is now thinking about doing!!

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Uh, no you weren't. You didn't even mention ambition.

motivated=ambitious
unmotivated=lacks ambition.
thinking small=lacks ambition=unmotivated

So, if someone is quite happy with say, an 18 foot boat, fits there
needs perfectly, etc, you think they are unmotivated? Amazing.


You still don't get it. Don said "think small"...not "buy a small boat".
To me, the saying "think small" means the opposite of "think big"...and that
translates to a lack of ambition to excel in life.

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:09:03 GMT, Don White
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 10:47:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On 27 Aug 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Think small
No thanks. Thinking small is for the unmotivated in life.
You think that because someone has a boat that they really
like,
although it may be smaller than yours is "unmotivated"? Do you
think
that just because someone isn't financially overextended is
"unmotivated"? I think that people who overextend just for
appearances
are fools.
bk, do you think that NOYB was trying to be controversial in his
statement?
Maybe he was just saying how *he* feels about life, and not
passing
any
judgements on others.

Why the attacks?

It's a nice Sunday...chill out.
--
No, John, he certainly was, and always has, passed judgements on
others.

I'm discussing only the post you responded to, not the past few
years.

I'm surprised that you'd take a philosophical comment like,
"Thinking
small
is for the unmotivated in life" as a personal attack or the
passing
of
judgement on you.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John
Since I was the one who advised to "think small", I thought NOYB
was
jabbing at me. Maybe I should have said 'think modestly'.
Obviously some here have no need to even consider that, but I stand
by
my common sense advice.
Nah. He came back with a bit of philosophy to counteract the bit you
gave
him. He's already bought his boat, so 'thinking small' wouldn't work
for
this one anyway. Thinking small is what I'm doing for my *next*
boat -
maybe a 17-18'er.
It's actually what I'm thinking for my next boat too. Instead of
having
a
30 foot offshore boat, and 17' nearshore/inshore boat, I'm thinking
about
buying something in the 25-26 foot range to replace both boats. I
could
get
a trailer for it, and tow it to the keys or the east coast for a
change
of
scenary.
Thinking small is for the unmotivated.

Good point. I'll get the 25-26 footer to tow to East Coast on
weekends, and
look into buying a 40-something foot sportfish for over here.





You could buy my Parker. Let's see, nothing down, interest only payments
for, oh, 25 years... :) I charge two points over the vig, which these
days is about 10 points less than the average credit card company.

He'll go for it! According to him, interest only payments on tangibles
is a great and wise investment!

On appreciating (or non-depreciating) assets only. You haven't been paying
attention.

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

JohnH wrote:
On 28 Aug 2006 04:51:19 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 27 Aug 2006 13:07:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


Don White wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 10:47:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On 27 Aug 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "basskisser"

wrote:


NOYB wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Think small

No thanks. Thinking small is for the unmotivated in life.

You think that because someone has a boat that they really
like,
although it may be smaller than yours is "unmotivated"? Do you
think
that just because someone isn't financially overextended is
"unmotivated"? I think that people who overextend just for
appearances
are fools.

bk, do you think that NOYB was trying to be controversial in
his
statement?
Maybe he was just saying how *he* feels about life, and not
passing
any
judgements on others.

Why the attacks?

It's a nice Sunday...chill out.
--

No, John, he certainly was, and always has, passed judgements on
others.


I'm discussing only the post you responded to, not the past few
years.

I'm surprised that you'd take a philosophical comment like,
"Thinking
small
is for the unmotivated in life" as a personal attack or the
passing of
judgement on you.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John

Since I was the one who advised to "think small", I thought NOYB
was
jabbing at me. Maybe I should have said 'think modestly'.
Obviously some here have no need to even consider that, but I
stand by
my common sense advice.

NOYB can't think small, because the stuff he has is making up for
his
lack of manhood!

Attack mode. Why? You weren't attacked.

Here it is, a nice Sunday, lot's of friendly conversation on a range
of
subjects, and you come in like a rabid pit bull...

Why? What does it serve?

He can't help it. Jealousy I would guess.

See? I rest my case, John!

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You made three or four attacking posts, and NOYB responded with one of
his
own. Then you say you rest your case. There was no reason for your
initial
attacks!
--
The initial attack was NOYB attacking Don who posted a perfectly good
idea, one that NOYB is now thinking about doing!!

I didn't attack Don. I criticized the concept of "thinking small", because
it demonstrates apathy in life and a lack of ambition.

On 28 Aug 2006 11:11:45 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 28 Aug 2006 04:51:19 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 27 Aug 2006 13:07:03 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Don White wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 10:47:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On 27 Aug 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


NOYB wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Think small

No thanks. Thinking small is for the unmotivated in life.

You think that because someone has a boat that they really like,
although it may be smaller than yours is "unmotivated"? Do you think
that just because someone isn't financially overextended is
"unmotivated"? I think that people who overextend just for
appearances
are fools.

bk, do you think that NOYB was trying to be controversial in his
statement?
Maybe he was just saying how *he* feels about life, and not passing
any
judgements on others.

Why the attacks?

It's a nice Sunday...chill out.
--

No, John, he certainly was, and always has, passed judgements on
others.


I'm discussing only the post you responded to, not the past few years.

I'm surprised that you'd take a philosophical comment like, "Thinking
small
is for the unmotivated in life" as a personal attack or the passing of
judgement on you.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John

Since I was the one who advised to "think small", I thought NOYB was
jabbing at me. Maybe I should have said 'think modestly'.
Obviously some here have no need to even consider that, but I stand by
my common sense advice.

NOYB can't think small, because the stuff he has is making up for his
lack of manhood!

Attack mode. Why? You weren't attacked.

Here it is, a nice Sunday, lot's of friendly conversation on a range of
subjects, and you come in like a rabid pit bull...

Why? What does it serve?

He can't help it. Jealousy I would guess.

See? I rest my case, John!

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

You made three or four attacking posts, and NOYB responded with one of his
own. Then you say you rest your case. There was no reason for your initial
attacks!
--
The initial attack was NOYB attacking Don who posted a perfectly good
idea, one that NOYB is now thinking about doing!!

Forget it, bk.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...
Harry Krause wrote:
NOYB wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...
NOYB wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:09:03 GMT, Don White

wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 10:47:03 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


JohnH wrote:

On 27 Aug 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "basskisser"

wrote:


NOYB wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Think small
No thanks. Thinking small is for the unmotivated in life.
You think that because someone has a boat that they really
like,
although it may be smaller than yours is "unmotivated"? Do you
think
that just because someone isn't financially overextended is
"unmotivated"? I think that people who overextend just for
appearances
are fools.
bk, do you think that NOYB was trying to be controversial in
his
statement?
Maybe he was just saying how *he* feels about life, and not
passing
any
judgements on others.

Why the attacks?

It's a nice Sunday...chill out.
--
No, John, he certainly was, and always has, passed judgements on
others.
I'm discussing only the post you responded to, not the past few
years.

I'm surprised that you'd take a philosophical comment like,
"Thinking
small
is for the unmotivated in life" as a personal attack or the
passing
of
judgement on you.
--
******************************************
***** Hope your day is great! *****
******************************************

John
Since I was the one who advised to "think small", I thought NOYB
was
jabbing at me. Maybe I should have said 'think modestly'.
Obviously some here have no need to even consider that, but I
stand by
my common sense advice.
Nah. He came back with a bit of philosophy to counteract the bit
you
gave
him. He's already bought his boat, so 'thinking small' wouldn't
work
for
this one anyway. Thinking small is what I'm doing for my *next*
boat -
maybe a 17-18'er.
It's actually what I'm thinking for my next boat too. Instead of
having
a
30 foot offshore boat, and 17' nearshore/inshore boat, I'm thinking
about
buying something in the 25-26 foot range to replace both boats. I
could
get
a trailer for it, and tow it to the keys or the east coast for a
change
of
scenary.
Thinking small is for the unmotivated.
Good point. I'll get the 25-26 footer to tow to East Coast on
weekends, and
look into buying a 40-something foot sportfish for over here.




You could buy my Parker. Let's see, nothing down, interest only
payments
for, oh, 25 years... :) I charge two points over the vig, which these
days is about 10 points less than the average credit card company.
He'll go for it! According to him, interest only payments on tangibles
is a great and wise investment!

On appreciating (or non-depreciating) assets only. You haven't been
paying attention.




My Parker doesn't seem to be depreciating. Strange.

No boat owner likes to think of his boat as a depreciating asset.

So you keep telling yourself that you could sell it for what you paid, if
that makes you feel better. ;-)