| Page 1 of 2 | 1 | 2 |
|
|
What does your summer dockage cost?
20 foot slip, water, electric. $999 for a dock from April 1 to October 31.
Vermilion River connecting to Lake Erie (western basin). Nothing fancy. No pool or clubhouse. Meets our needs with our modest 20 footer. ;-) How about you? |
What does your summer dockage cost?
That actually sounds cheap.
In '87 and '88 on Carlyle lake, I paid $1.00 per foot, per month, on a nine month lease. My 27 ft. Chris Craft Cavalier cost me about $900.00 then! Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: 20 foot slip, water, electric. $999 for a dock from April 1 to October 31. Vermilion River connecting to Lake Erie (western basin). Nothing fancy. No pool or clubhouse. Meets our needs with our modest 20 footer. ;-) How about you? Here are the rates at BP: http://tinyurl.com/r3qay You'd pay $1300 for a slip for your boat. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. 20 foot slip, water, electric. $999 for a dock from April 1 to October 31. Vermilion River connecting to Lake Erie (western basin). Nothing fancy. No pool or clubhouse. Meets our needs with our modest 20 footer. ;-) How about you? A 30' x 10' slip runs 1825/finger dock 2000/ roadside for the summer, w/ water and elec. IF. Marinas with pools etc are at least 200-300 more. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:50:48 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @
pffftt.com wrote: 20 foot slip, water, electric. $999 for a dock from April 1 to October 31. Vermilion River connecting to Lake Erie (western basin). Nothing fancy. No pool or clubhouse. Meets our needs with our modest 20 footer. ;-) How about you? 24' slip, 25' boat, electricity available for occasional use, no water. $1100/yr with "pay a year in advance" discount. Lake Murray, SC. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
JimH wrote: 20 foot slip, water, electric. $999 for a dock from April 1 to October 31. Vermilion River connecting to Lake Erie (western basin). Nothing fancy. No pool or clubhouse. Meets our needs with our modest 20 footer. ;-) How about you? $10 per foot per month. Open, sal****er moorage. I'll probably move back inside the locks before winter to help preserve all the nice work that was just done on the boat. I'm looking at a 40-foot slip that will run $515 per month for covered, freshwater moorage. Twice as big as your slip, but 4 times as much money. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
35' x 15' slip, pool, clubhouse, behind an entry-coded gate, in Annapolis
(AMCYC in Eastport) $5k/year. Larger 50' slips are $8k/yr. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for
$160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. "Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... 35' x 15' slip, pool, clubhouse, behind an entry-coded gate, in Annapolis (AMCYC in Eastport) $5k/year. Larger 50' slips are $8k/yr. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
Is that in the Ft. Lauderdale area?
NOYB wrote: Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. "Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... 35' x 15' slip, pool, clubhouse, behind an entry-coded gate, in Annapolis (AMCYC in Eastport) $5k/year. Larger 50' slips are $8k/yr. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. NOYB wrote: Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. A fool and his money... I can't see spending that much money for rack storage but a decent slip can be a good investment in some parts of the country. We purchased a "dockominium" 55' slip 5 years ago after running the numbers and projecting slip costs over a period of 10 years. The market value of that slip has more than doubled in the time we've owned it. We've had, and continue to get, numerous requests by boat owners to contact them if we should ever decide to sell it. We didn't use it the first year we had it (boat was still in Florida) so we subleased it for the season for almost $8k. We paid $78K for it. The people we bought it from had paid $42K four years earlier. It was officially on the market for about 3 hours before I said, "I'll take it". The regular season lease slips in our marina go for $190/foot for six months, so the Navigator would normally cost $9,880.00 per season, assuming a slip was available. We "bought" the slip instead and only pay a relatively small annual contribution for marina maintenance, electricity and water. When the time comes to sell the slip, we will more than double our investment and will basically have had a slip for free. My boatless son caught onto this and bought a 36' slip as an investment. The marina leases it for him (takes a 15% commission) at the current rates. It's the best investment he has, return wise. He has talked about getting a boat in the future and should he, the major problem of finding a slip is a non-issue. If he never does, he'll enjoy an excellent return when he sells the slip, plus will collect over $6k per season in rent. I suspect this is a unique situation. Although new dockominium marinas were banned in MA in 1991, the existing ones were grandfathered. You don't really "buy" the slip. You lease it for 99 years, but the lease is transferable, allowing you to "sell" it. Other than that, it's just like buying property or a house, except the value goes up faster in this area. Slips in MA are scarce. Virtually all private and town operated marinas have long waiting lists for slips and even longer lists for moorings. The slip rates, even at town marinas are going up every year (Scituate is up to about $135/ft). Even if the market flattens (which there is no sign of) for the next five years, we will come out way ahead. People may not use their larger boats as much due to fuel costs, but they still have to put them somewhere. Eisboch |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. I have a dockominium. I believe you stayed at the marina where it is located. Gee. And not even an offer to use it for the night. St. Augustine? Eisboch |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. Up Salt Run. It's got an occupant. The office handles it. Worth a lot more now than what we paid for it back in '92 or '93. In the right area, they can be a very good investment. I am not sure about Florida though, at least on the east coast side. There's a gazillion boats, but there is also a gazillion or more marinas with more being built all the time. WayneB has a sweet spot though. If we had bought something like that instead of a horse farm ....... Eisboch |
What does your summer dockage cost?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:02:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: JimH wrote: 20 foot slip, water, electric. $999 for a dock from April 1 to October 31. Vermilion River connecting to Lake Erie (western basin). Nothing fancy. No pool or clubhouse. Meets our needs with our modest 20 footer. ;-) How about you? Here are the rates at BP: http://tinyurl.com/r3qay You'd pay $1300 for a slip for your boat. Are you back in BP again? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. There's a really severe shortage of both marinas and dockage in NE Florida. The one in question commands a premium because it is right off the ICW, has easy access to the Atlantic, is sheltered, has a pretty good restaurant attached, has a decent motel, is near beaches and near lots of other first-rate attractions. I paid very little for mine, by the way. It's a beautiful area. I was referring (or at least thinking) more of the southern part of the state. They are still building condos with dock rights and no buyers. Eisboch |
What does your summer dockage cost?
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:06:25 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
WayneB has a sweet spot though. If we had bought something like that instead of a horse farm ....... It would cost us about $800 per month plus electricity to dock at a marina around here, with future rate increases almost guaranteed, and the risk that the marina gets redeveloped at some point. Building the dock for something like $30K, and the convenience of having the boat in front of the house, was a no brainer. There's a nice lot available across the canal from us, as well as several new homes for sale in the neighborhood. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. Unbelievable. Are folks actually buying those rack storage slots (with an additional $2,700/year for the *privilege* of doing so)? |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:06:25 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: WayneB has a sweet spot though. If we had bought something like that instead of a horse farm ....... It would cost us about $800 per month plus electricity to dock at a marina around here, with future rate increases almost guaranteed, and the risk that the marina gets redeveloped at some point. Building the dock for something like $30K, and the convenience of having the boat in front of the house, was a no brainer. There's a nice lot available across the canal from us, as well as several new homes for sale in the neighborhood. Ummmmm... Winter's just around the corner. Florida is simply too diverse to easily pick "the place". We have friends that relocated to Mt. Dora and when I visited for the first time I thought I was back in New England. Oak trees, hills and winding roads. No ocean access, but huge lakes with some good sized boats on them. The town or "village" of Mt. Dora is quaint and quite beautiful. I always liked the St. Augustine area as well. Then there's the area we were in ... Jupiter. Flat as a pancake with roads that only run east/west and north/south. Other than the fantastic winter weather, I really don't miss Jupiter much. The areas on or near the ICW and the ocean were over developed for my taste. Plus, Mrs.E.'s hair isn't blue yet, nor is mine grey ... well maybe just a little here and there. I never spent too much time over on "your" side. Eisboch |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. NOYB wrote: Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. A fool and his money... I can't see spending that much money for rack storage but a decent slip can be a good investment in some parts of the country. We purchased a "dockominium" 55' slip 5 years ago after running the numbers and projecting slip costs over a period of 10 years. The market value of that slip has more than doubled in the time we've owned it. We've had, and continue to get, numerous requests by boat owners to contact them if we should ever decide to sell it. We didn't use it the first year we had it (boat was still in Florida) so we subleased it for the season for almost $8k. We paid $78K for it. The people we bought it from had paid $42K four years earlier. It was officially on the market for about 3 hours before I said, "I'll take it". The regular season lease slips in our marina go for $190/foot for six months, so the Navigator would normally cost $9,880.00 per season, assuming a slip was available. We "bought" the slip instead and only pay a relatively small annual contribution for marina maintenance, electricity and water. When the time comes to sell the slip, we will more than double our investment and will basically have had a slip for free. My boatless son caught onto this and bought a 36' slip as an investment. The marina leases it for him (takes a 15% commission) at the current rates. It's the best investment he has, return wise. He has talked about getting a boat in the future and should he, the major problem of finding a slip is a non-issue. If he never does, he'll enjoy an excellent return when he sells the slip, plus will collect over $6k per season in rent. I suspect this is a unique situation. Although new dockominium marinas were banned in MA in 1991, the existing ones were grandfathered. You don't really "buy" the slip. You lease it for 99 years, but the lease is transferable, allowing you to "sell" it. Other than that, it's just like buying property or a house, except the value goes up faster in this area. Slips in MA are scarce. Virtually all private and town operated marinas have long waiting lists for slips and even longer lists for moorings. The slip rates, even at town marinas are going up every year (Scituate is up to about $135/ft). Even if the market flattens (which there is no sign of) for the next five years, we will come out way ahead. People may not use their larger boats as much due to fuel costs, but they still have to put them somewhere. Eisboch It is amazing what good dockage costs in some parts of the Country. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. Unbelievable. Are folks actually buying those rack storage slots (with an additional $2,700/year for the *privilege* of doing so)? Every other con man in the United States must be working that turf. Based on the prices of the houses NOYB reports......it looks so. ;-) |
What does your summer dockage cost?
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:07:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Plus, Mrs.E.'s hair isn't blue yet, nor is mine grey ... well maybe just a little here and there. What is hair? :-) Interestingly enough only about 30% of our neighbors are senior citizens/retirees, the rest tend to be middle aged/working with a few even younger. There has been a big turnover on our block in the three years since we moved here, with the older retirees selling, cashing out and moving on, as the baby boomer generations start to move in. I never spent too much time over on "your" side. SWFL is a big secret, almost unknown except for Naples and Sanibel Island to most folks in the north east. Cape Coral, where we are, is still a little raw around the edges in some areas, but has more undeveloped waterfront than anywhere else in Florida. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. There's a really severe shortage of both marinas and dockage in NE Florida. The one in question commands a premium because it is right off the ICW, has easy access to the Atlantic, is sheltered, has a pretty good restaurant attached, has a decent motel, is near beaches and near lots of other first-rate attractions. I paid very little for mine, by the way. It's a beautiful area. I was referring (or at least thinking) more of the southern part of the state. They are still building condos with dock rights and no buyers. Eisboch We might move back there to northern Florida some day. South Florida is just too hot for us. Just keep your voter registration in MD. We don't need any more blue state voters down here mucking things up. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:07:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Plus, Mrs.E.'s hair isn't blue yet, nor is mine grey ... well maybe just a little here and there. What is hair? :-) Interestingly enough only about 30% of our neighbors are senior citizens/retirees, the rest tend to be middle aged/working with a few even younger. There has been a big turnover on our block in the three years since we moved here, with the older retirees selling, cashing out and moving on, as the baby boomer generations start to move in. I never spent too much time over on "your" side. SWFL is a big secret, almost unknown except for Naples and Sanibel Island to most folks in the north east. Cape Coral, where we are, is still a little raw around the edges in some areas, but has more undeveloped waterfront than anywhere else in Florida. Would you please be quiet. I like the Midwesterners more, and you're going to spoil it. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
wrote in message ups.com... Is that in the Ft. Lauderdale area? Naples http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2006/...ms/?local_news |
What does your summer dockage cost?
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. Unbelievable. Are folks actually buying those rack storage slots (with an additional $2,700/year for the *privilege* of doing so)? Yup. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2006/...ms/?local_news |
What does your summer dockage cost?
" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message . .. "Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. JimH wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. Unbelievable. Are folks actually buying those rack storage slots (with an additional $2,700/year for the *privilege* of doing so)? Every other con man in the United States must be working that turf. Based on the prices of the houses NOYB reports......it looks so. ;-) I almost bought a 35'x10' rack storage for $70,000 about 4 1/2 years ago. The condo fee was an additional $110/mo. I backed out of the deal after 9/11 when the economy went flat. Instead, I bought a house on the water in March, 2004. In retrospect, it would have been a lot cheaper to buy that slip...but the ten foot beam would have limited me to only a handful of 30' boats (unless they employed an extremely skilled forklift operator). |
What does your summer dockage cost?
JimH wrote:
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. Unbelievable. Are folks actually buying those rack storage slots (with an additional $2,700/year for the *privilege* of doing so)? We run the gambit here. Cheapest clubs & marinas on a local lake are about $250.00 per year. The top of the line full service Squadron would probably cost you $3500.00 to $4000.00 per annum but $500.00 of that is mandatory bar/dining room expenses. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:07:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Plus, Mrs.E.'s hair isn't blue yet, nor is mine grey ... well maybe just a little here and there. What is hair? :-) Interestingly enough only about 30% of our neighbors are senior citizens/retirees, the rest tend to be middle aged/working with a few even younger. There has been a big turnover on our block in the three years since we moved here, with the older retirees selling, cashing out and moving on, as the baby boomer generations start to move in. I never spent too much time over on "your" side. SWFL is a big secret, almost unknown except for Naples and Sanibel Island to most folks in the north east. Cape Coral, where we are, is still a little raw around the edges in some areas, but has more undeveloped waterfront than anywhere else in Florida. Would you please be quiet. I like the Midwesterners more, and you're going to spoil it. Don't worry, they are building condos is Sarasota like crazy......the ones we are designing are being marketed for 400-500 a s.f. and that is downtown no water, with a nice view of an alley too :-) |
What does your summer dockage cost?
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:02:44 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
Would you please be quiet. I like the Midwesterners more, and you're going to spoil it. We have a lot of friends and neighbors from the midwest due to the I-75 pipeline effect. Wonderful people, but most of them wouldn't know good food and a good restaurant if they tripped over it. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"NOYB" wrote in message k.net... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:07:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Plus, Mrs.E.'s hair isn't blue yet, nor is mine grey ... well maybe just a little here and there. What is hair? :-) Interestingly enough only about 30% of our neighbors are senior citizens/retirees, the rest tend to be middle aged/working with a few even younger. There has been a big turnover on our block in the three years since we moved here, with the older retirees selling, cashing out and moving on, as the baby boomer generations start to move in. I never spent too much time over on "your" side. SWFL is a big secret, almost unknown except for Naples and Sanibel Island to most folks in the north east. Cape Coral, where we are, is still a little raw around the edges in some areas, but has more undeveloped waterfront than anywhere else in Florida. Would you please be quiet. I like the Midwesterners more, and you're going to spoil it. You have to be nuts to love those 1,500 square foot houses selling for $1MM, not being able to step outside your house for 6 months (due to temperature, humidity and critters) and boat dockage going for a premium to even want to consider living down there. Add to the mix the hurricanes and tropical storms. No thanks! ;-) |
What does your summer dockage cost?
JimH wrote: How about you? Hi: I know most will not belive me but........................ 38" side tie slip. Free water Metered electric. Clean showers. Maybe 25 sailboats all under 40' 6-8 motor boats. 2 pontoon boats. And one cop boat. Was $275 but went up this year to $300. Thats $300 a year not a month. Columbia River, Oregon side. Bob |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Bob" wrote:
Thats $300 a year not a month. Columbia River, Oregon side. Could you be a little more specific on location? Thanks, -rick- |
What does your summer dockage cost?
|
What does your summer dockage cost?
NOYB wrote:
Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. "Bill Kearney" wrote in message ... 35' x 15' slip, pool, clubhouse, behind an entry-coded gate, in Annapolis (AMCYC in Eastport) $5k/year. Larger 50' slips are $8k/yr. I think my dock permit with the Army corps of engineers of about $30 bucks a for five years. Plus $70 for the right of way for the water and electric. I have a two slip 30x40 foot dock. Of course I had to bring my own dock :-) Capt Jack R.. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
"Bob" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: How about you? Hi: I know most will not belive me but........................ 38" side tie slip. Free water Metered electric. Clean showers. Maybe 25 sailboats all under 40' 6-8 motor boats. 2 pontoon boats. And one cop boat. Was $275 but went up this year to $300. Thats $300 a year not a month. Columbia River, Oregon side. Bob but a 38" slip can not park much boat. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
Calif Bill wrote: "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... JimH wrote: How about you? Hi: I know most will not belive me but........................ 38" side tie slip. Free water Metered electric. Clean showers. Maybe 25 sailboats all under 40' 6-8 motor boats. 2 pontoon boats. And one cop boat. Was $275 but went up this year to $300. Thats $300 a year not a month. Columbia River, Oregon side. Bob but a 38" slip can not park much boat. hehe!! I've got an RC boat that MIGHT fit in there! |
What does your summer dockage cost?
Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. Unbelievable. Are folks actually buying those rack storage slots (with an additional $2,700/year for the *privilege* of doing so)? Every other con man in the United States must be working that turf. What a mesquito ridden hell hole it is! Only place worse in Florida than Naples is the Ft. Lauderdale area. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
On 17 Aug 2006 00:03:42 -0700, "Bob" wrote:
wrote: "Bob" wrote: Thats $300 a year not a month. Could you be a little more specific on location? Thanks, -rick- Hi Rick: I gave your request a good thuoght and at first I wanted to be the typicall helpful Oregonian and give an exact RM. On the other hand, I think I'll decline and help keep this little secrect just that. I will say this nice little nook is up steam from Portland. Sorry to be a jerk, but Oregon has been wasted by too many good and well meaning people. Bob No problem... I suspected it wasn't Portland (Cascade Locks maybe). I'm not looking for a place as mine rests on a trailer next to the house but was just curious. Eventually I may have something that needs a wet home. thanks, -rick- |
What does your summer dockage cost?
|
What does your summer dockage cost?
basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: JimH wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... Down here they're selling rack storage (same approximate dimensions) for $160k+...and then charging a $225/month condo fee. And that's for a soon-to-be-built facility that will take an hour to idle to the gulf. Unbelievable. Are folks actually buying those rack storage slots (with an additional $2,700/year for the *privilege* of doing so)? Every other con man in the United States must be working that turf. What a mesquito ridden hell hole it is! Only place worse in Florida than Naples is the Ft. Lauderdale area. Grow up, Kevin. |
What does your summer dockage cost?
JimH wrote: 20 foot slip, water, electric. $999 for a dock from April 1 to October 31. Vermilion River connecting to Lake Erie (western basin). Nothing fancy. No pool or clubhouse. Meets our needs with our modest 20 footer. ;-) How about you? $2150 for a 34' slip on Lake St. Clair. The marina will give you a discount if you pay for the following year's dockage by September 30th. keith |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:13 PM. |
|
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com