On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:09:08 -0500, "Del Cecchi"
wrote:

If you think that there aren't powerboaters out there who are a menace to
anyone in a boat smaller than theirs you haven't been paying attention.

I pay a lot of attention but am reluctant to tar everyone with the
same brush.

There are plenty of idjit sail boaters out there also.

On 14 Aug 2006 16:55:15 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I wonder if he's telling tales about the
arsehole boaters who nearly ran him down when he shot out from behind
the breakwater?

Of course.

If you want to draw a parallel between kayakers and some other group, I
think those bicyclists who pedal down the middle of the lane at 5-10
mph in a 45 mph zone and flip off every motor vehicle that dares to
pass them would be closer kin than PWC'ers.

Well, there's quite a difference between a bike trying to make use of a road
and kayak. Most states give cyclists the same rights to use the roadway as
a vehicle, as well they should. It's not an accurate comparison.

In Emeryville on SF Bay there is an expensive Asian Restaurant near the
ramp. Their customers have no problem parking in the trailer area, but
if a
trailer person parks outside the trailer area, they get a ticket. Unless
they park on the street about 1/2 mile + away.
Maybe you should leave a nasty note on every car parked there without
a trailer.
Maybe poke their tire valve stems in the paper so they pay attention.

Nah, use chopsticks.

Two things, no such thing as "right of way" and it was a restricted passage.
It's 'stand on' or 'give way' but it's not 'right of way'.

I'd have just ignored him or tigthened up the distances such that the
boarder would have had to chose to manuever elsewhere. Being careful not to
put other vessels at risk, of course. Much like kayaks the operating of
those things comes with the expectation of getting dunked or having to deal
with wave conditions.

In the no excuse category: the guy on a sailboard who came shooting out
out from behind the breakwater yesterday burning hell for leather
through a group of boats, (both powerboats and sailboats running
underpower), proceeding slowly and queing up orderly to pass through
the narrow opening into the marina. The sailboarder headed straight for
my stem, and while I gave him as much space as I could I had no time or
space to change course sufficiently to allow him a wide berth. After he
flipped me off, I watched him "slalom" through a half dozen boats
behind me- passing some to port and others to starboard . Sure, he had
the "right of way"- but he had no cause to behave belligerantly when it
was his *own* choice that eliminated most of the options anybody would
have had to accomodate him. I wonder if he's telling tales about the
arsehole boaters who nearly ran him down when he shot out from behind
the breakwater?

Del Cecchi wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:02:21 -0500, Del Cecchi
wrote:

There are a lot of idiot powerboaters around.

Oh cheez, here we go, another sailor who believes that power boat
owners are required to undergo brain removal before they can purchase.

To a sailboat operator, the prevailing definition of "stupid idiot" is
someone who is going faster than they are when under power.

Sail boats and kayaks have something in common: They are both able to
go where most powerboats can not, although for different reasons.

Too bad they don't go there and celebtate with each other. It would
likely alter the earth's orbit however with all of that brain power
concentrated in one place.


Another Sailor? You talking about me? Haven't sailed in 40 years.
Drive a Lund ProVee. And paddle a canoe in the wilderness on occasion.
Ever try to carry a 18 foot boat with a 115 across a half mile portage
cut through the forest?
Not practical besides being unlawful. See Quetico Provincial Park,
Ontario. Or BWCA for that matter.

But it is often necessary to risk life and limb by crossing lakes used by
many fine people with motorboats and a few idiots.

If you think that there aren't powerboaters out there who are a menace to
anyone in a boat smaller than theirs you haven't been paying attention.
(and I've seen a few be a menace to themselves in the presence of barge
strings on the upper mississippi)

del cecchi

You ought to come to Lake Lanier in Georgia. For the most part, all is
well, except the people that have a LOT of money, and have huge boats.
There rules of the road are the biggest boat gets the right of way, or
really , the most expensive boat gets the right of way.

Harry Krause wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Del Cecchi wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
news On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:02:21 -0500, Del Cecchi
wrote:

There are a lot of idiot powerboaters around.
Oh cheez, here we go, another sailor who believes that power boat
owners are required to undergo brain removal before they can purchase.

To a sailboat operator, the prevailing definition of "stupid idiot" is
someone who is going faster than they are when under power.

Sail boats and kayaks have something in common: They are both able to
go where most powerboats can not, although for different reasons.

Too bad they don't go there and celebtate with each other. It would
likely alter the earth's orbit however with all of that brain power
concentrated in one place.


Another Sailor? You talking about me? Haven't sailed in 40 years.
Drive a Lund ProVee. And paddle a canoe in the wilderness on occasion.
Ever try to carry a 18 foot boat with a 115 across a half mile portage
cut through the forest?
Not practical besides being unlawful. See Quetico Provincial Park,
Ontario. Or BWCA for that matter.

But it is often necessary to risk life and limb by crossing lakes used by
many fine people with motorboats and a few idiots.

If you think that there aren't powerboaters out there who are a menace to
anyone in a boat smaller than theirs you haven't been paying attention.
(and I've seen a few be a menace to themselves in the presence of barge
strings on the upper mississippi)

del cecchi

You ought to come to Lake Lanier in Georgia. For the most part, all is
well, except the people that have a LOT of money, and have huge boats.
There rules of the road are the biggest boat gets the right of way, or
really , the most expensive boat gets the right of way.



Why anyone would want a "huge boat" on that little lake is beyond me.

Almost 1000 miles of shoreline, beautiful mountain setting, and Atlanta
money!